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Some of my top favorite nasty pool rooms that I have visited per my recolection at the time:
  • 1989 - Romines on Franklin...not High Pockets on 27th
  • 1990 - Starlight in STL ...or was it Moonlight..? cna't remember
  • 2000's - Bogie's 1960 (before Bobby Rone took over)
  • 1991 - Some place in Owenboro, KY but not Nick V's place
  • 1982 - Community Center in Hollsopple, PA
  • 1990's and 2000's - Bank Shot Houston
  • 2000's - Cue and Cushion, Houston very late in it's life
  • 1984 - Some rat hole in Johnston, PA
  • Entire Existance - Spring Branch Billiards, Houston
  • Entire existance - Rack and Roll, Alief, TX
 
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I remember High Pockets on 27th being way nicer than the one of Franlin.

Do I have that backwards??

Thks

I'm confused also. "1989 - Romines on Franklin...not High Pockets on 27th"

If you're referring to 27th and Wisconsin Avenue the clientele was getting a bit rough back then. Today it is not owned by the Romine's and I would not go there after dark.
The Romine's on 27th in Franklin Wisconsin is just fine as far back as I can remember.
 
I'm confused also. "1989 - Romines on Franklin...not High Pockets on 27th"

If you're referring to 27th and Wisconsin Avenue the clientele was getting a bit rough back then. Today it is not owned by the Romine's and I would not go there after dark.
The Romine's on 27th in Franklin Wisconsin is just fine as far back as I can remember.

OK, I'm sorry, that makes three of us as I too am now confused.

Let me ask this please:

Which one has about (60) tables with an elevated bar and a mexican resturant? This is the one that was the nicest in 1989.

The one more near downtown I think was down and dirty...and I liked it!!
 
OK, I'm sorry, that makes three of us as I too am now confused.

Let me ask this please:

Which one has about (60) tables with an elevated bar and a mexican resturant? This is the one that was the nicest in 1989.

The one more near downtown I think was down and dirty...and I liked it!!

The one in Franklin on 27 th street has the raised bar and restaurant. That's the nice one. The one downtown, is down and dirty and off limits for me.
 
The one in Franklin on 27 th street has the raised bar and restaurant. That's the nice one. The one downtown, is down and dirty and off limits for me.

Still doing the bar dice shake of the day up there? I used to win at that all the time!!

I played Willie Munson cheap several times. He whooped me badly every time...but a hell of a nice guy and a great player..
 
Some of my top favorite nasty pool rooms that I have visited per my recolection at the time:
  • 1989 - Romines on Franklin...not High Pockets on 27th
  • 1990 - Starlight in STL ...or was it Moonlight..? cna't remember
  • 2000's - Bogie's 1960 (before Bobby Rone took over)
  • 1991 - Some place in Owenboro, KY but not Nick V's place
  • 1982 - Community Center in Hollsopple, PA
  • 1990's and 2000's - Bank Shot Houston
  • 2000's - Cue and Cushion, Houston very late in it's life
  • 1984 - Some rat hole in Johnston, PA
  • Entire Existance - Spring Branch Billiards, Houston
  • Entire existance - Rack and Roll, Alief, TX

This might be "The 8 Ball". It's in a strip mall with the Tower Hotel in the parking lot.
 
This might be "The 8 Ball". It's in a strip mall with the Tower Hotel in the parking lot.

That rings a bell. A big round shaped hotel? I used to stay at the Executive Inn. Stayed there one time when the KY Police Officers had their annual conference at the same time the Blue Grass Conference was going on. Used to play a pretty cool guy who went by the name of Charlie Brown. Also, used to go to the Brass Ass Saloon. It was crazy!!
 
There was one in Statesville, NC that I used to go to that was a picture of an old school pool hall. It had around 20 antique pool tables, it was in a historic building that had 30 foot ceilings, chandeliers and a gilded copper ceiling. It was also one of the most dangerous bars I have ever spent time in.

There was once a riot in there where ppl used pool balls, sticks and beer bottles as weapons, robbery, stabbings and shootings were not uncommon. Heck a homeless man was beaten to death by a group of teenagers about a block away. Needless to say the pool hall has been shut down and changed owners several times...not sure if they even have pool tables in there anymore. I stopped practicing in there at night once I figured out that serious trouble was a nightly happening in there.
 
How nasty you talking about?

Nasty doesn't begin to describe Cochran's in the mid-60s. Market Street, San Francisco, Denny Searcy, Paul Silva, any of the southern California boys who might drift up.

Smoking, drinking, drugs, floozies. And across the street was Palace Billiards, which might have been nastier. Let's not forget all the sexual hustlers, thieves, con men and roustabouts who congregated in these two dens of inequity.

Those were the days, boys.
 
The only kind worth mentioning.

Back in the early nineties I stumbled onto a place in a fairly new shopping center. Clean, almost antiseptic. Beautiful new tables, furniture, decorations, everything. It was well lighted, seemed like an ideal family recreation center although I don't know if young people were allowed in the place. I walked through there looking at the many tables and such and thinking "Wow, this is what a pool room needs to be to put pool back on the map!" I didn't have time to play the day I passed through but planned to get back over there soon to give the place a try. Never could quite persuade myself to go back though, the place had no soul.

Nasty pool rooms are where I am at home. Even in the sixties and early seventies I didn't care if they were black or white, or how rough they were, if there was action to be had I was home. Nick's Steak House was the first place. Probably ten footers had long ago replaced the tables and chairs to eat on which were still piled in the back of the room. There was a small bar in the front that just catered to the hardcore alcoholics that didn't care how dismal a place was as long as the drinks and beer were cheap. Seventy-five cents for a mixed drink best I recall, maybe sixty. The cavern in the back where the pool tables were at was dank and dark with the only light coming when a bulb was turned on over a pool table. Usually it was dark when I went back there, maybe one or two other tables in play on a "busy night" for pool. A very rough place in a very rough area and it was pretty filthy besides, nasty in all respects. I was rolled in the first few months I went there and had the bloodiest battle I ever had over a pool table shortly afterwards. A week later I was back in Nick's playing pool every night and nobody saw fit to even mention the earlier incident. Somebody staggered in badly cut up one night and fell by the bar. After people got tired of walking around him they finally drug him over by a wall. Few people came through the door that weren't at least triple my age but it was the first of many rougher places I called home.

There was a place around LSU, dirty and old and in a basement. The smell and the constantly damp concrete made it a nasty place to play, the inhabitants were pretty mellow. You gave the rackman a dime to rack and often a nickel tip. Giving him a quarter for the rack and tip combined was either being flashy or a fool with your money.

Shoppers I have talked about recently in another thread. Old, run down, with a leaky roof that could never be fixed successfully, the smell and cleanliness of the place made it borderline nasty. The people in there were rough but all understood you didn't crap in your own nest. The counter people could usually count on a crowd of back-up if anything seemed likely to start. Once Jessie took over that wasn't needed, Jessie was a crowd all by himself.

The H&H Club was another nasty place. an old tarpaper covered building mostly on blocks, it might have once been a home. Filthy, uncared for, and a rough country place.

Greenway in that day was a short step above any of these places, later if fell into total decay itself and the last time I rambled in it was a mausoleum, just a few hardcore drinkers or loafers at the bar, nobody playing pool although the tables were all still there, obviously long neglected though.

Tee Neg's on the bayou, The End of the World where the road ended at the intracoastal canal, Hopkins Landing, some places not having or needing a name and many more with the names long forgotten, all interesting places. A biker bar in BR with pool tables and a whole new level of nastiness, the barmaids wanted to lock up and play on the tables when my partner and I came in on a slow day.

Similar places in Augusta and Atlanta Georgia, all over the gulf coast states, were home when I walked through the door. Just something about the feel and smell of an old pool room, I think I would always know where I was at if I was blindfolded and led through the door of an old "real" pool hall anywhere in the country. Most of these I remember from the sixties and seventies, a few in the early eighties. There are a few still around but they get scarcer by the year. Whitey's in Metairie is one of the survivors, Buffalo Billiards nearby is a newish pool hall in an old building with a long term pool room owner operating it. It has the old time pool room feel and flavor yet manages to operate and even thrive with a modern nut. Maybe there is still hope.

Somehow playing in the nice antiseptic places just doesn't have the same appeal. I would think that something more like family centers or places resembling bowling alleys hold out the best hopes of a future for pool's commercial survival but a "real" pool hall has to have an atmosphere of long faded glory and a faint smell of age, old cigar smoke, and this and that odor that can't quite be traced. Without flavor, character, characters, or history a pool hall has no soul and I feel like a stranger. A lot of different meanings to "nasty" but a place that isn't at least a little bit nasty just isn't a pool hall.

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That was a great post, ShootingArts. I could literally feel and smell the places you described. I have been in several of those type places over the past 25 years.
 
That rings a bell. A big round shaped hotel? I used to stay at the Executive Inn. Stayed there one time when the KY Police Officers had their annual conference at the same time the Blue Grass Conference was going on. Used to play a pretty cool guy who went by the name of Charlie Brown. Also, used to go to the Brass Ass Saloon. It was crazy!!

The Executive Inn has been imploded, The Brass Ass is long gone, Nicks room is closed, and the Tower Hotel is closed. It's still a great small town.
 
The Executive Inn has been imploded, The Brass Ass is long gone, Nicks room is closed, and the Tower Hotel is closed. It's still a great small town.


How about Moonlight BBQ or Colbys? Also remember a great greasy spoon breakfast spot north out of Owensboro on 231 on the est side of the street about half way up to I-64.

I loved my time in Owensboro!!!
 
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