Draw shot technique, physics, and examples

[dr_dave]

Bob Jewett and I recently filmed a bunch of stuff together. The link below points to a 3-part series dealing with draw shot technique, physics effects, and game-situation examples.

NV B.97 - Draw shot technique, physics, and examples​

Please let us know if you have any comments, feedback, or questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

 

[elvicash]

Bob Jewett and I recently filmed a bunch of stuff together. The link below points to a 3-part series dealing with draw shot technique, physics effects, and game-situation examples.

NV B.97 - Draw shot technique, physics, and examples​

Please let us know if you have any comments, feedback, or questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

Dave I always enjoy looking at your site. I was wondering if you had any video with high speed camera and a good player with strong stroke using max top spin. My question is th efollowing - is it possible for the cue ball to have a higher spin rate forward than it has forward speed. Thus can a cue ball be overspinning forward. I have seen youtube posts saying no not possible, I was watching closely strong players such as Mika and Schmidt at 14.1 this years Derby, the definitely seem to hit the CB very slow hit a ball thick and the CB jets forward after the contact. The effect seems to be as if the cue ball must have overspin but I would like to know.

Thanks for all your hard work,

 

[dr_dave]

Dave I always enjoy looking at your site. I was wondering if you had any video with high speed camera and a good player with strong stroke using max top spin. My question is th efollowing - is it possible for the cue ball to have a higher spin rate forward than it has forward speed.

Yes, this is possible, but not easy. See the following video:

HSV B.26 - overspin with a follow shot​

and for more information (and other related videos), see:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/follow.html#roll​

I was watching closely strong players such as Mika and Schmidt at 14.1 this years Derby, the definitely seem to hit the CB very slow hit a ball thick and the CB jets forward after the contact.

This is just good follow. A rolling CB is enough to accomplish this. It also helps if the cloth is slick and fast, and if the balls are new and clean.

Thanks for all your hard work

You're welcome ... and thank you.

Regards,
Dave

 

[deadhead]

hello dr. dave, I have checked out your site a few times, and love the way it explains things from a purely phisical/scientific point of view, in addition to the more common do this and this happens approach. It is very conducive to aplying these theories to practical situations that may differ slightly from the exaples provided. I have also noticed that they are hosted at colostate.edu, and was curious about your relationship with csu... Do they still have the pool hall they used to have?

 

[jdxprs]

That's a pretty amazing video!

 

[dr_dave]

hello dr. dave, I have checked out your site a few times, and love the way it explains things from a purely phisical/scientific point of view, in addition to the more common do this and this happens approach. It is very conducive to aplying these theories to practical situations that may differ slightly from the exaples provided.

Thanks. That's what I strive for ... creating principle-based "understanding" (... that was certainly the goal when I wrote my "Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards" book).

I have also noticed that they are hosted at colostate.edu, and was curious about your relationship with csu...

My "day job" is being a mechanical engineering professor at Colorado State University.

Do they still have the pool hall they used to have?

Unfortunately, there was a flash flood that went through campus in 1997. It totally destroyed both the pool hall (which was quite large and popular) and the bowling alley (which was also fairly well used). The students decided to use the insurance money on other stuff, so now we have no bowling lanes and only a few bar boxes. 1997 was a sad year indeed. :frown:

Did you spend time at CSU in the past?

Regards,
Dave

 

[JE54]

Good video, thanks for posting it.

 

[dr_dave]

Good video, thanks for posting it.

Thanks ... and you're welcome.

Check out the others also.

Regards,
Dave

 

[JumpinJack]

Thanks Dr Dave.
I love your videos! Great way to show the mechanics of the game.

I like how you show the different shots to make the PERFECT shot, including mistakes to avoid!

 

[deadhead]

Thanks. That's what I strive for ... creating principle-based "understanding" (... that was certainly the goal when I wrote my "Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards" book).

My "day job" is being a mechanical engineering professor at Colorado State University.

Unfortunately, there was a flash flood that went through campus in 1997. It totally destroyed both the pool hall (which was quite large and popular) and the bowling alley (which was also fairly well used). The students decided to use the insurance money on other stuff, so now we have no bowling lanes and only a few bar boxes. 1997 was a sad year indeed. :frown:

Did you spend time at CSU in the past?

Regards,
Dave

I have spent a little time at CSU in the past, but never having been a student there, only went with friends when passing through when I was much younger, back in 96-97, I moved to fort collins in 2004 after testing the waters in a few front range towns, but had not thought about that room for some time, and I never tried to poke my head in and see if it was there.

Do the tables they do have see much action these days?

Dave

 

[cstrombe]

These new draw videos are great, thanks for sharing. I appreciate your approach to dissecting the game--I really learn the why's behind what's going on on the table. I have your Illustrated Principles book and it has helped me tremendously. I always love to see the high speed camera make an appearance too!

-Chris

 

[Bob Callahan]

An interesting "bunch of stuff". :grin-square:

Maybe we'll all have a better chance of doing this, now:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cuetable#p/u/0/PuNGsN0cMoE

 

[dr_dave]

Thanks Dr Dave.
I love your videos! Great way to show the mechanics of the game.

I like how you show the different shots to make the PERFECT shot, including mistakes to avoid!

Thanks for the your comments. I agree!

Regards,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

I have spent a little time at CSU in the past, but never having been a student there, only went with friends when passing through when I was much younger, back in 96-97, I moved to fort collins in 2004 after testing the waters in a few front range towns, but had not thought about that room for some time, and I never tried to poke my head in and see if it was there.

Do the tables they do have see much action these days?

I haven't seen much "action." Mostly just students banging balls around socially when they skip classes.

Are you still in Fort Collins? If so, stop by MatchUps to say hi sometime. I have league on Thursday nights, and I practice with my team on Sunday mornings (early).

Catch you later,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

These new draw videos are great, thanks for sharing. I appreciate your approach to dissecting the game--I really learn the why's behind what's going on on the table. I have your Illustrated Principles book and it has helped me tremendously. I always love to see the high speed camera make an appearance too!

Thanks to you and others for the positive comments. It feels good to know people appreciate the results of all of the work that goes into books and videos.

Regards,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

An interesting "bunch of stuff". :grin-square:

Maybe we'll all have a better chance of doing this, now:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cuetable#p/u/0/PuNGsN0cMoE

Power draw takes a little practice; although, with good technique and understanding, its not as hard as it looks. Check out:

NV B.65 - Power draw technique advice from VEPS I​

It's also a lot easier with a new, clean ball on a slick and fast cloth.

Regards,
Dave

 

[swest]

Thanks to you and others for the positive comments. It feels good to know people appreciate the results of all of the work that goes into books and videos.

Regards,
Dave

Your book, Koehler's "The Science of Pocket Billiards", and Fancher's "Pleasures of Small Motions" are the most frequently referenced books in my pool library. And when I give a pool book as a gift, it is always "The Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards".

Thank you.

 

[dr_dave]

Your book, Koehler's "The Science of Pocket Billiards", and Fancher's "Pleasures of Small Motions" are the most frequently referenced books in my pool library. And when I give a pool book as a gift, it is always "The Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards".

Thank you.

Thanks again!!!

Regards,
Dave

 

[Jal]

Bob Jewett and I recently filmed a bunch of stuff together. The link below points to a 3-part series dealing with draw shot technique, physics effects, and game-situation examples.

NV B.97 - Draw shot technique, physics, and examples​

Please let us know if you have any comments, feedback, or questions.

Enjoy,
Dave

I'm continually impressed by the material and its presentation, Bob and Dr. Dave. It's amazing what can be done at home with the right equipment in the right hands (and a lot of work!).

Thanks for this latest set of videos.

Jim

 

[dogloose]

dr_dave... thanks for the post on draw... I learned a lot I didn't know and reinforced what I did from your clear explanations and slow-motion photography. Your knowledge and dedication are greatly appreciated. Your web site is bookmarked and your book "The Illustrated Principles of Pool and Billiards" is a dog-eared reference in my library.