Sometimes good players play bad on the stream tables.
Why Put Poor Matches On The Stream
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Lets cater everything to the great players, that's a good solution and will keep the tournaments full. Let's see, the great players can come in late for registration, and even the match. They sometimes get to choose what table they want. Dress code doesn't apply to them either. Now, lets put them in all the streams.
IMO, they should put more up and comers and banger on the stream and broadcast what elite matches are going on, so that will entice people that are driving distance away to participate/ spend money at the pool hall. After all, is't that the main goal, generating money for the establishment.
JMO
IMO, they should put more up and comers and banger on the stream and broadcast what elite matches are going on, so that will entice people that are driving distance away to participate/ spend money at the pool hall. After all, is't that the main goal, generating money for the establishment.
JMO
I would rather watch Yu Ram Cha drill a player 9-0 than watch 2 players who cant play at all. I'd rather just watch her eat lunch as well.
Another point not mentioned is when a unseasoned newcomer is randomly put on a streaming table and plays even below their level, they may never enter another event with streaming again.
Another point not mentioned is when a unseasoned newcomer is randomly put on a streaming table and plays even below their level, they may never enter another event with streaming again.
This is a good point. It's a "new" pressure.
I will try my best to get lower level players on there that "want" to be on there. They will usually say something like, " my wife and son are watching, can I play on the tv table" etc.
Sometimes players ask to NOT be on there. TD's will try their best to accomodate everyone. In the end......the show must go on.
Ray
I don't think it hurts anything. I can see the frustration if you want to watch pool and have limited time to watch, but I thats why I really like the streamers that are archiving matches and labeling them by name so you can go back and watch them after the fact.
All the chat room heros talk about how much better they play compared to the players on the stream regardless of who is playing. Just maybe they will actually believe it and join the tourney next time rather than watching.
~Perk
All the chat room heros talk about how much better they play compared to the players on the stream regardless of who is playing. Just maybe they will actually believe it and join the tourney next time rather than watching.
~Perk
"Sometimes good players play bad on stream tables" -- so-very true!
That is *so* true! Especially when it's an arena setting with bleachers positioned at both ends of the table, and out of the corner of your eye (or even in direct line-of-sight) you see the "wall o' faces" looking right back at you. And, every once in a while, while you're shooting (or just about to shoot, or just completed the shot), you see one of those "faces" lean over to the next, and that other face nods or shakes his/her head. (With the natural thought being, "Did I pick the wrong shot? Did I just look like a bonehead in front of all these people?") You try your best to fade that stuff the best you can, but many times you can't.
After a surprisingly uncharacteristically p*ss-poor performance at this most recent SBE (I apologize to those that watched my match), I learned that I need to take two things with me whenever I suspect I'm going to be on a centralized/arena'ed/live-streamed table:
In summary, James' point about "sometimes a good player plays bad on the stream tables" is so-very true.
-Sean
That is *so* true! Especially when it's an arena setting with bleachers positioned at both ends of the table, and out of the corner of your eye (or even in direct line-of-sight) you see the "wall o' faces" looking right back at you. And, every once in a while, while you're shooting (or just about to shoot, or just completed the shot), you see one of those "faces" lean over to the next, and that other face nods or shakes his/her head. (With the natural thought being, "Did I pick the wrong shot? Did I just look like a bonehead in front of all these people?") You try your best to fade that stuff the best you can, but many times you can't.
After a surprisingly uncharacteristically p*ss-poor performance at this most recent SBE (I apologize to those that watched my match), I learned that I need to take two things with me whenever I suspect I'm going to be on a centralized/arena'ed/live-streamed table:
- my sinus headache meds (the weather made a dramatic change while I was there -- big-time barometric pressure change), and...
- a good beta-blocker. (Thanks Spidey!)
In summary, James' point about "sometimes a good player plays bad on the stream tables" is so-very true.
-Sean
Be careful here...I've seen you on stream. You're no banger! I am!
Streaming
Well coming from a guy that has been on both sides here is my thought on this subject. I have been in the booth with BIG Truck and watched some of the best players. Jeremy Jones, Jesse Bowman, Chip "Double Dip" Compton, Joey Gray, etc. They are absolutely awesome to watch and commentate on. Then there are true bangers like myself and other local league players who are just there trying to get experince. I think the stream table needs a mix of both the greats and the bangers. I am one of those bangers who tends to bring a fairley descent amount of money to the tournament and don't mind playing on the stream table because one my wife and children are watching and two the reason most of those bangers are there is to try to get better. Part of getting better is playing under "new" pressure and it is definetly some pressure. Then sometimes it is even about giving the viewers something different and funny. (See Nawlinz_Glenn when he was a little tipsy in Thibodaux) wow!!! Anyway what it is really all about is bringing pool to the public and supporting the sponsors a good mix of champs and bangers is what we need on the stream IMHO!
P.S. Joey A does not qualify as a banger!! Sorry Mr. Joey!
Well coming from a guy that has been on both sides here is my thought on this subject. I have been in the booth with BIG Truck and watched some of the best players. Jeremy Jones, Jesse Bowman, Chip "Double Dip" Compton, Joey Gray, etc. They are absolutely awesome to watch and commentate on. Then there are true bangers like myself and other local league players who are just there trying to get experince. I think the stream table needs a mix of both the greats and the bangers. I am one of those bangers who tends to bring a fairley descent amount of money to the tournament and don't mind playing on the stream table because one my wife and children are watching and two the reason most of those bangers are there is to try to get better. Part of getting better is playing under "new" pressure and it is definetly some pressure. Then sometimes it is even about giving the viewers something different and funny. (See Nawlinz_Glenn when he was a little tipsy in Thibodaux) wow!!! Anyway what it is really all about is bringing pool to the public and supporting the sponsors a good mix of champs and bangers is what we need on the stream IMHO!
P.S. Joey A does not qualify as a banger!! Sorry Mr. Joey!
Sorry Buddy! 
Here is Nawlinz Glenn vs Jason Lafleur (Won the Louisiana State BCA)
Both players were...............let's just say.........having a really good time!
Commentary by Brandon Shuff and Margot Dupree
"even when you're drinkin, you can do stuff like this" ~ brandon shuff
Ray
Here is Nawlinz Glenn vs Jason Lafleur (Won the Louisiana State BCA)
Both players were...............let's just say.........having a really good time!
Commentary by Brandon Shuff and Margot Dupree
"even when you're drinkin, you can do stuff like this" ~ brandon shuff
Ray
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It's cool...
Thanks Truck for keeping that video alive. Way to make me look like a worse playin then I really am. LOL Just kidding it was a lot of fun and I am just glad Jason was a really good sport.
Thanks Truck for keeping that video alive. Way to make me look like a worse playin then I really am. LOL Just kidding it was a lot of fun and I am just glad Jason was a really good sport.
I disagree 100% with the idea that only top players should be on the stream.
Top players could care less if they are on the stream most likely, some of them might want to hide their speed also. Guys like me are the ones who put the majority the money into pool with either entry fees or purchasing products from merchants, not the top pros.
I guarantee it would mean more to me to play on a stream where my friends and family could watch/belittle me or where I could view it at a later date then for instance, Earl Strickland.
Top players could care less if they are on the stream most likely, some of them might want to hide their speed also. Guys like me are the ones who put the majority the money into pool with either entry fees or purchasing products from merchants, not the top pros.
I guarantee it would mean more to me to play on a stream where my friends and family could watch/belittle me or where I could view it at a later date then for instance, Earl Strickland.
This is how I feel as well, except for the lunch part haha.
I don't care if Shane van Boening is torturing a C or B player, I'm just happy to watch Shane play anyone. But when I view an open tournament with the intention of watching some top notch talent, I want to see at least one of those guys when I tune in.
I'll watch some of the B player tournaments steamed on occassion, but I don't think I've ever watched more than a match or two. I think it comes down to sponsors. If a sponsor has put money into an event, I think it is up to those running it to ensure it gets as much exposure as possible. Most people are going to watch top names, because not everyone is fan of pool for the sake of pool. Maybe people on this forum are, but when you get 2000 viewers I doubt they are all from this forum.
You'd be surprised what a C NOTE can do.
It is also important to the any PPV viewers. They have a stake in the stream as well.... just sayin....