if you think about what the title implies, out of all the greats, I think it fits him more than any of his peers
John Higgins - GRAND MASTER!
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What happened?
My feed stalled at the worst possible time. Higgins potted the blue and the pink and black were left. Once my feed unstalled I saw Hazel interviewing Judd and talking about his runner-up finish.
Did Higgins only snooker Trump once? Did he then pot the pink and black in for the win?
My feed stalled at the worst possible time. Higgins potted the blue and the pink and black were left. Once my feed unstalled I saw Hazel interviewing Judd and talking about his runner-up finish.
Did Higgins only snooker Trump once? Did he then pot the pink and black in for the win?
Hellluva match. I think Higgins was more fortunate in the "rolls" department but both played great.
anywhere I can find the replay?
It'll be on youtube within half an hour I would think.
He definitely had better rolls, at least two games won by luck.
thanks for the link
What matches did he fix?
I think people get a bit carried away about this. Here are the facts:
Newsoftheworld went undercover to talk to John Higgins about match fixing while taping it with a hidden camera.
They talked about throwing individual FRAMES, not matches, in a tournament without ranking points. This tournament was a fictional one did not even exist yet and Higgins believed he was going over to Kiev to discuss with these people having a this tournament in Russia.
Newsoftheworld released an edited three minute video (roughly) to the public, yet refused to show the full 12 minute video to anyone. They also admitted to false subtitling.
Eventually, an INDEPENDANT tribunal were given access to the full video, something the public were still not.
Higgins was found guilty for bringing the game into disrepute, mainly for not contacting the police within 24 hours after returning to Britain. He was NOT found guilty of fixing matches, and not even of intending to fix matches.
His manager Pat Mooney however had all contact with the game stripped of him. He knew exactly what they were going to Kiev to discuss as he had alreadty been there alone.
In my opinion, John Higgins was agreeing to throw frames. His talk of hidden cameras, how to swallow the 300k, a beach house in Spain does not sound like a man who wishes to get out of there as quick as possible. However, it is hard to be 100% about that without seeing the full ubedited footage. And, like I said, it was only throwing individual frames in basically an exhibition tournament, one that was both fictional and would have no ranking points.
The fact that he was asking how he could "swallow" the money tells me that he hadn't been involved in this sort of thing before, and I doubt he would ever or has ever thrown a match in a ranking tournament.
IOW: "None."
crappoolguy,
you do realize people who would have bet on him to win said frames would have lost money?
but I digress, this thread was started as a testament to his snooker prowess
you do realize people who would have bet on him to win said frames would have lost money?
but I digress, this thread was started as a testament to his snooker prowess
In my opinion, John Higgins was agreeing to throw frames. His talk of hidden cameras, how to swallow the 300k, a beach house in Spain does not sound like a man who wishes to get out of there as quick as possible. However, it is hard to be 100% about that without seeing the full ubedited footage. And, like I said, it was only throwing individual frames in basically an exhibition tournament, one that was both fictional and would have no ranking points.
The fact that he was asking how he could "swallow" the money tells me that he hadn't been involved in this sort of thing before, and I doubt he would ever or has ever thrown a match in a ranking tournament.
no different than "Quinten Hann"
Also, Higgins looked "very comfortable" discussing everything that had to happen as well as how to "hide" the money.
I have no doubt this wasn't his first bite of the apple.
Zero respect for him.
Ban him.
Discredit him.
Forget him.
The fact that he was asking how he could "swallow" the money tells me that he hadn't been involved in this sort of thing before, and I doubt he would ever or has ever thrown a match in a ranking tournament.
no different than "Quinten Hann"
Also, Higgins looked "very comfortable" discussing everything that had to happen as well as how to "hide" the money.
I have no doubt this wasn't his first bite of the apple.
Zero respect for him.
Ban him.
Discredit him.
Forget him.
Wity
Banned
Pity you got them wrong.
"N.O.T.W. refused to show the full 12 minute video to anyone. They also admitted to false subtitling."
Do you need to watch the whole match to know who won or is the full time score enough? 3 mins of highlights were plenty. and there was no false subtitling to admit to so where did that come from?
Edit.. oh yeah i remember, that accusation came from a journalists website, dont remember the guys name but if you had seen his ramblings there you'd realise he had a vendetta against the N.O.T.W. Maybe thet sacked him long ago?
" He was NOT found guilty of fixing matches, and not even of intending to fix matches."
British courts cant impose a £60 speeding fine even if you have driven through a speed camera trap at 80mph if the road is in France can they?
He was not found not guilty simply because he was not charged with match fixing or intending to match fix. Those charges were dropped at the last minute after Mooney's brief basically pointed out they had no jurisdiction over the tournament.
Of course Higgins would throw a match for the right price as would 99% of players his only problem is he's as thick as two short planks he should do as the rest of them do and arrange it all via an untraceable pay as you go phone with the Chinese. Who the hell trusts a Russian?
All the pro players and their managers know they are not allowed to bet on themselves so the obvious way is they get a friend to lay down a bet for them. Johns so thick though he phoned Ladbrooks and tried to bet on his opponent using his ladbrooks phone account! When the woman employee told him he was not allowed to he said he was just after some insurance should he lose. WTF does he think insurance is if it aint a bet?
(Sworn affadavid of the employee available from N.O.T.W.)
Wity
Banned
Except Quinten had already made his mind up to quit the game and couldn't give a toss about his hearing. Plus he knew he was being filmed, he even went up to the camera and winked.
You say he got the facts wrong, then you just disagree with the need to see the whole tape. So he wasn't wrong, you just didn't think it was important. Given the history of the paper and their reluctance to show it, clearly it was important. There also was false subtitling, which you should really be aware of if you're going to flatly assert that someone else is wrong.
And your point about highlights is ridiculous.
Wity
Banned
Charges 1 and 2 were dropped therefore the accused cannot be found guilty or not guilty. That's a fact he got wrong. as he was when he stated the N.O.T.W. admitted to falsifying the subtitling, which they have to my knowledge not admitted. If they have however then it's news to me and i apologies. Nowhere on the net though can i find such an admission. Perhaps you have a link you can post? or are you just another Higgins fan that ignores the facts and imagines non existent ones?
I cant imagine anything other than a deleted scene early on whereby all involved state they are about to make a video as a joke that could possibly make anyone think Higgins was acting because he was scared for his life thus whatever was excluded held no importance. Even so it was viewed in its entirety by the tribunal.
Higgins ought to change his first name to Houdini he's escaped from as many snookers as anyone but this was his biggest con.
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dude you need a clue, EVERYONE in the game knows what happened, to argue this shows you're really out of the loop
and yes Higgins couldn't lay down a bet to save his life, that Ladbrokes episode was comical,