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Who is the best on a bar table. 10 races to 11 in both 8 ball and 9ball.

We all know there is straight, bank, 1 hole, just to name a few. but most average bar pool players r into 8 and 9 ball.

I don't think there is any players that can consistently beat these guys in this race.

In the early 90's everyone wanted to see Strickland vs Efren Reyes
 
sr 9ball said:
Who is the best on a bar table. 10 races to 11 in both 8 ball and 9ball.

We all know there is straight, bank, 1 hole, just to name a few. but most average bar pool players r into 8 and 9 ball.

I don't think there is any players that can consistently beat these guys in this race.

In the early 90's everyone wanted to see Strickland vs Efren Reyes
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There is no question that SVB is better than Bowman. It doesnt matter what game it is, on a barbox SVB is probably the undisputed most dangerous player alive on a barbox.
 
I agree with the statements above. Jesse is a phenominal player on the barbox and has an extremely high gear. However, Shane is one step above that.

One match that might be aweful interesting is Darren Appleton vs. SVB playing bar table 8 ball. That could be an interesting matchup. I would gladly buy a PPV and DVD's of that.
 
i would like to see svb play joey gray......svb has to be a favorite against any american.....but many can joey swing it...
 
tattoo said:
i would like to see svb play joey gray......svb has to be a favorite against any american.....but many can joey swing it...
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Joey, though a MONSTER player, has been playing in Olathe Midwest 9 ball tourneys the last few years with Jesse in attendance....I don't think he has finished higher than Jesse in ANY of them (barbox). Jesse won a couple, lost in the finals to Jamie (oops, JAMES) Barraks, and I think finished 3rd this last one to Matlock and Kitto. Jesse at his BEST is really pretty scary, but SVB could be the only one that is scarier!!!

I was in Des Moines for the TAR match between Shane and Scott Frost, and it wasn't a match, it was a DISMANTLING! That display (race to 100) made me believe that NOBODY wants a piece of Shane on the little table.
 
Does any one remember the UTube video, where Johnny Archer was watching someone run several racks on a bar box. Steve Mizerak was doing a funny commentary. The player running racks was expalining the game as he went along.
I tried to find it again on UTube but couldn't.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Does any one remember the UTube video, where Johnny Archer was watching someone run several racks on a bar box. Steve Mizerak was doing a funny commentary. The player running racks was expalining the game as he went along.
I tried to find it again on UTube but couldn't.
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if I remember correctly, it was Dave Matlock doing the shooting....

it was - found it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_aE6OR-yU

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If I recall correctly, Shane and Jesse have gambled a few times the last few years, and Shane has won. I think they played 8 ball and 9 or 10 ball. I think Jesse will play pretty much anyone on a bar table....except Shane.
 
Chip is a better bar table player than Joey. By atleast 1 ball. Joey on the other hand is a stronger one pocket player. I would even put Chip above Jesse. Svb and Chip would be a better match up but would still take svb.
If you haven't seen Chip play, come to Jamaica Joes September 10th and watch him play.

Ps... Right now I think Shane McMinn is one of the strongest bar box players in the country right now.
 
here is one of my favorite matches (the finals) from Olathe 2010 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4918765

look at all the other recorded matches, including other players mentioned - Chip, Joey, McMinn, etc. Again, they've all been in attendance while Jesse won twice, almost double dipped Barracks for a 3rd straight, and then didn't finish as well in the last one (either 3rd or 4th??), but I believe still finished higher than the others mentioned.

Surprising is nobody mentioning Hennessey (Jon is WAY up there on a barbox; or ANY table for that matter)!
 
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Chip is a better bar table player than Joey. By atleast 1 ball. Joey on the other hand is a stronger one pocket player. I would even put Chip above Jesse. Svb and Chip would be a better match up but would still take svb.
If you haven't seen Chip play, come to Jamaica Joes September 10th and watch him play.

Ps... Right now I think Shane McMinn is one of the strongest bar box players in the country right now.
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Have you seen SVB play on a barbox? There is no better. You get Shane McMinn to gamble with SVB and I could name MANY people who would back SVB for any amount. He has been winning championships on a barbox since he was a kid. I remember one of the first copies of the VNEA bi-monthly magazine came out SVB had one a huge bar box tournament and he was only 19.
 
Would like to see more or some of Shane playing on a barbox. Seen him play some guy at state a few years ago gave the guy the breaks i think ball in hand after the breaks and destroyed him bad, cant remember how much was on the line though.

If i recall anyone with five grand can challenge Shane on a barbox race to 50 correct me if im wrong.
 
Wow. How often do you guys watch these guys live? I'm very familiar with at least 4 of the players mentioned on this thread. Barbox 9 ball is a breaking competition for any pro. They're all supposed to get out pretty much anytime they make a ball and have a clear shot on the next ball. Not many pros wanna give up the breaks or a wild ball to any other pro on a bartable.

A few years back when Valley's were the main bartable around and the heavy cueball was the norm. There were bartable specialists that could rob big table players. But since Diamonds and even lighter weight Valley balls have come around, its not that tough to go from a big table to the kids table anymore.

While Chip does play better rotation than Joey I would dare say its not a full ball better. They're both going to get out their fair share. Jesse is unconscious playing bartable 9. And when he's playing a bunch it would be tough to beat him in bartable 9. McMinn plays great pool all around and is capable of winning any tournament in a short race. But overall unless you're playing a lot longer set than 11 you're not going to see much difference in any of the pros on a barbox. Especially when you're talking about Olathe which is race to 7 alternate break. You're not going to see anybody put any packages together and keep a guy in his chair very long. Those games come down to who misses the first break.

Where SVB really stretches his legs and shows the difference in his game is big table 10 ball. He has arguably the best 10 ball break in the world. Many guys are starting to copy his break and there are a few creeping up on him. But just the elite guys right now. SVB wouldn't be able to give much of a spot to any of these guys in bartable 9. But in big table 10 ball you're probably looking at a couple of balls to any of them. I would probably guess they would need the 7 or 8 to make a fair game in 10 ball.

Bottom line. The bartable is the great equalizer. Shortstops can hang with pros in short races on a bartable. That's why if you ask just about any of the guys mentioned on this thread to gamble against a lesser player or even someone they just have the best of it against they're all gonna run to the big table to widen that gap.

I know Jesse is known as a bartable specialist but don't let that fool you into thinking he can't play on a big table as well.

But SVB on a big table is one of the best in the business right now.
 
Really the only match ice seen svb play was against Chris Meiling. It was BCA 8 Ball and Chris won. But to me small race tournaments don't show a persons true speed.
You keep mentioning Olathe. Yes that's always a good tournament but dont come close to the White Diamonds tournament where Chip has snapped it off twice in a row. Bowman swung at it too and fell short.
I would love to see svb and Compton matched up. Yes I think svb has the upper hand but it would still be a good match
 
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OUSooner said:
A few years back when Valley's were the main bartable around and the heavy cueball was the norm. There were bartable specialists that could rob big table players.
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I don't believe SVB was one of them (if that is what you are implying).

OUSooner said:
Where SVB really stretches his legs and shows the difference in his game is big table 10 ball. He has arguably the best 10 ball break in the world. Many guys are starting to copy his break and there are a few creeping up on him. But just the elite guys right now. SVB wouldn't be able to give much of a spot to any of these guys in bartable 9. But in big table 10 ball you're probably looking at a couple of balls to any of them. I would probably guess they would need the 7 or 8 to make a fair game in 10 ball.
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There isn't an argument. It is the best break in the business right now :) I think his barbox game is just as stunning as his big table game.

OUSooner said:
I know Jesse is known as a bartable specialist but don't let that fool you into thinking he can't play on a big table as well.
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He can for sure.
 
I think one thing that hasn't been mentioned is equipment. Don't think that doesn't come in to play. I think on the 7' Diamond, Shane is the best, but on the Valley its a toss up between Shane and Jesse. My 2 cents.
 
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