What is up with SouthWest Cues?

Can't go wrong with this kind of policy. Wait or Don't wait. No money lost. No disappointment.
The only thing I would wait 8-10 years for is an Organ...Heart, Lungs.

I'm in the same boat. I wouldnt wait three or four years for a cue. But I dont slam the people who have those wait lists. I just know I'm not ever gonna get a custom cue from them.
 
For the purpose of clearing out the issue, because the two statements below don't make any sense. Maybe then it wouldn't go over my or anybody else's head.

I asked you a valid question, because I didn't know exactly what SW does in their dealings, but I have heard over the years from various sources that they indeed take some down payment on orders. Your first post below also points in this direction, yet contradicts your second one.

So which one? Not trying to mock anybody here, just want to know the truth.

His point is that they don't take any money for a down payment, so you shouldn't be concerned with the wait time. If you choose not to wait, you have nothing invested and therefore are out nothing, save the phone call you made to get on the list.

His comment of paying double was in gest. If you're down payment is nothing, then zero x two (double) is still nothing.
 
Someday my order will come up to be built, and I will order a Southwest Merry Widow. When I get it if it does not knock my sock off, I will offer it for sale.

Until then I will play with my MAGIC CUE. Magic Cue being what I am playing with NOW be it a ____ ______, ___ ____, ____ _______, ____ ______, or a ____ _________!
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His point is that they don't take any money for a down payment, so you shouldn't be concerned with the wait time. If you choose not to wait, you have nothing invested and therefore are out nothing, save the phone call you made to get on the list.

His comment of paying double was in gest. If you're down payment is nothing, then zero x two (double) is still nothing.

Oh I see, so that one of those sarcasm posts that didn't radiate as intended due to the lack of a smiley at the end of the post: :p

Thanks for the explanation :thumbup:
 
South West "THE BEST"

South West "THE BEST"!!!!! I have owned many South West cues, all great! I play with one and own several more. I have some for sale also. I want to buy any spot on the list at a profit that someone does not want to wait for. As far as Jerry's cues were so much better than today's - I do not believe that, since Micky and Al have been there almost from the start. Laurie Franklin has kept her husbands dream alive with a beautiful cue that hits GREAT! I want to thank Laurie for her respect and perseverance to keep Jerry Franklin's legacy alive. Also my thanks to Micky & Al for being the backbone of the company. I wish the wait was 2 weeks also, but that is not going to happen. So to all, enjoy your South West when it arrives!!!!!
 
South West cue's

Nice cue's..., but you can get one anywhere, way wait? Just go to a high end cue show and there will be 5-10 a every booth. I played with one and will be picking up another one next week.

5 -10yrs, na...,
 
I should get mine in the next six to ten weeks. I put my name on the list when I was 20 years old and now I'm 30. I just figured it couldn't hurt to wait and get that call one day. Then it came.Laurie is one of the nicest people in the cue biz if not the nicest and a class act. It only takes a little patience....hopefully I'll like how it looks and plays.
 
10years is way too long for me........I would rather just find one on the market...!!
bt I might be accept the unique one, however, I had been told they r not making fancy one anymore........too bad
 
I had a Southwest a few years back, was a nice cue, hit well but I had a good offer so off it went. I have been on their list now for about 7 years and still have a few years to go, fine. I don't quite consider them custom cues as I can't get a four pointer and rings do not match up, or at least not once you get out of the buttsleeve. I do like the hit though so I'll wait out. If you like em, wait it out, if you want one and dont want to wait, buy one on the second hand market, if you don't want to wait and don't want to buy one second hand, don't worry about it, good night all.
 
Totally Agree

Once again I will explain it for you. As you often say, "You missed my point".

I said their shafts are excellent. Great taper, excellent playablity. The point you missed is, there are alot of great cuemakers that you can work with and have a "custom" made cue. Hell, Palmer had catalog cues and still you could have them "custom" make it.

Barry Szam is another one, that is quoted as best built cue. But if you look at Barry's or Southwest cue veneer work, well...lets just say that there are better ones out there.

I am not trying to knock SW, but I am not like alot of folks on here that think they are far superior to several cuemakers out there.

As posted on this thread the wait is created by not having a deposit needed. They build tons of cues, they are far from rare, they play great, they sell great.

As you noted "it is what it is".

Ken

There are a lot of better cues for less money than the one's mentioned above, but the people who own them have to keep up the mystique or face losing some serious money that they have invested in them. I totally agree with a Southwest being a high end production cue, because of the limited amount of options available when you order one. They got to love all this free advertising they get on AZ.
 
South West cues

Why wait, there are SW cues at every cue show, used and new by the boat load. I played with one great cue, but 5-10 year wait, na..., great marketing idea and maybe the world wide demand is that high, but there are very nice SW cues on the market all the time.
 
Why wait, there are SW cues at every cue show, used and new by the boat load. I played with one great cue, but 5-10 year wait, na..., great marketing idea and maybe the world wide demand is that high, but there are very nice SW cues on the market all the time.

If they are everywhere please find me a wrapless ebony merry widow.

I see Gina Rasputins at every cue show, and Black bushka's. I guess in the cue world if you can actually find a cue thats bad.
 
If they are everywhere please find me a wrapless ebony merry widow.


Yeah there hard to find but here you go:


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The problem if any is that SW makes it too easy to get on the list. Never heard of someone getting turned down for trying to get on the list. Never heard of SW asking for a deposit to get on the list.Their reputation for producing a quality cue is well documented and spans over 20 years- so yeah the list is long.

To the OP, why did u get on the list in the first place? Surely the wait back then didn’t deter you. SW will build cues the way they want in the time they want to ensure their quality standards. Getting antsy? Buy one used then flip the new one delivered for profit.

BTW i ordered mine in 2001 and Im not trippin.
 
I wouldn't wait 10 yrs. for a pool stick even if it came with (o)(o) and a set of wet lips.

I would. Some cues are priceless.

what you just described actually has a price. See Blackballed's latest thread for more info...
 
I ordered a cue in 2000 and was told that the wait would be seven years. Finally in March 2010 I received the following email:



I responded and have since provided the company with the details of the cue and received pricing and dates for assembly that never materialized. When I inquiry I get responses like: "there in one group ahead of yours", "final assembly in a month", "we are pretty backed up so it will be a couple of months for the nosepiece to be ready", etc., etc., etc.

Is anyone else getting the runaround from SW?

How much of a down payment have you made?
 
Southwest has created this "wait" to create the impression of rarity.

Does Southwest make a good cue? Yep, great shafts, great playability. Best cue? No, I dont think so.

IT IS A PRODUCTION CUE, IT ISNT A CUSTOM CUE. You get to pick the woods and they veneers. You dont get to pick joint, inlays, and most other things that I consider a true custom cue.

The long wait was "created" because every Tom, Dick and Harry out there, can call up, get on the list, and wait. This used to be an easy way to make a few hundred on a cue. Once you got it, or nearly got it, you could sell it. I have bought tons of them. Laurie has now changed where you cant make that money and she sells it at "market value" at the time of sale.:rolleyes:

Laurie and the Southwest crew makes lots and lots of cues. They got the Kersenbrock formula and used the "McDonalds" approach of cuemaking.

JMO

Ken

BINGO.... We have a winner;)
 
I purchased a brand new SW cue several years ago (2008 maybe?) and it's the only cue I've ever regretted getting rid of. It looked and played fantastic. Wait and order the combination you want, and in the meantime you can still pick up one pretty easily on the cue market. Best of both worlds.
 

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