First broken G-10 pin

dunkelcustomcue

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Been installing G-10 pins for a couple of year with zero problems. Had one come back to me broken the other day. Player was putting his cue together and left the shaft partially screwed in. Decided he didn't want the other player to wait, so he leaned it against a chair. Someone walked past and kicked the cue. Cue ended up falling and the shaft hit a table on the way down. The picture you see is right after the accident. Easy fix and I think if it was a steel pin it may have snapped the shaft or butt.

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Been installing G-10 pins for a couple of year with zero problems. Had one come back to me broken the other day. Player was putting his cue together and left the shaft partially screwed in. Decided he didn't want the other player to wait, so he leaned it against a chair. Someone walked past and kicked the cue. Cue ended up falling and the shaft hit a table on the way down. The picture you see is right after the accident. Easy fix and I think if it was a steel pin it may have snapped the shaft or butt.

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When I install a G-10 I let the customer know in advance that a G-10 will break much easier than a metal pin, however, the force needed to break a G-10 would surely bend a metal pin necessating a replacement anyway.

Dick
 
another g-10 advantage,saving damage to the butt.
keeps the repair on the simple side.

bill
 
I agree, much easier to replace the pin then the other major components. It also saved the customer from what could have been a much more costly mistake.

Greg
 
Where are you located in Hamilton
I might want to stop by when I bring the wife down to the Columbus Market
 
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I believe if you fellows who are giving scenarios of how the pin may have got broke would read the OP's original statement he explains how the damage occurred.

Dick
 
This is a good customer of mine and don't believe for a second that he would lie to me. This was the worst case scenario for a G-10 pin and where it snapped would make sense for what he told me. I did have a ding in the shaft from where it hit the table. I also do a linen fiber insert into the shafts, so the scenario that Dave gave wouldn't be possible.
 
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I've seen some crazy stuff happen to cues, and that does not sound so far fetched to me. I have seen people start putting their cue together,get to looking for or messing with something else at the same time, seen some do that while talking to someone, shaking their hand, etc., and even because they did not want to keep the other player waiting, so they lay their cue across the table or wall while not yet fully screwed together just like described. Even seen someone else come along and trip over them before. Often time it happens when first matching up, Guy gets his break stick together but is only maybe a couple of threads or half way through screwing the player together when opponent is finished racking. he jumps up lays his player aside before finishing.

I like the old classic Myself: screwing the shaft together as they are going to shake someone's hand, kicking the cue above the butt plate in the process, the bumper snags the carpet, creating a sling shot effect, increasing It's velocity & speed, snatches it from their hands, person extends out while reaching to catch the shaft, but reflexes are way too slow, therefor catching nothing other then air, and ending with a jaw clinching smash of the shaft hitting the table. I've seen that one many of times. Just wish I could catch the moment in a picture or video sometime. It would make for a good pose.

I have seen much stranger happen though, like the guy that just slightly over did it on the follow through during the break and jammed his shaft into a commercial type ceiling fan that was running on high. That was a interesting event to witness:thumbup:

Greg
 
at least its a easy fix.

beibg able to drill ouit the G10 and replace the pin is nice unlike having to use heat to remove a pin.

lets see a pic when you get-er fixed up
 
Fixed pin. Not much to show. Took about 10 minutes. Face off broken pin, drill center, undersized drill bit to get most of the G-10 out and then the rest with a mini bore bar, retap and install pin.
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I believe if you fellows who are giving scenarios of how the pin may have got broke would read the OP's original statement he explains how the damage occurred.

Dick

I did read it Dick, then offered an opinion on how it looks to have been damaged based on the pictures and on my experiences. I didn't realize only a select few are qualified to offer those kinds of opinions here..... Sorry if that ruffled anyone.
Dave
 
I did read it Dick, then offered an opinion on how it looks to have been damaged based on the pictures and on my experiences. I didn't realize only a select few are qualified to offer those kinds of opinions here..... Sorry if that ruffled anyone.
Dave

As far as I've read so far, the only "select few" who have gave any opinion what so ever is you. The OP never gave an opinion, he gave a statement telling exactly how the pin was broke. What you did was to call the OP or the one who broke the pin a liar. Now my opinion is that you are trying to cover your butt for not reading the post but just looking at pictures.

Dick
 
My thoughts exactly! I'm also wondering if the cue may have been used without being screwed together tightly. :thumbup:

Actually Dick, I wasn't the only one, maybe you should read things more closely too...:smile:
I am a bit offended that you would think that I would lie about why I posted my opinion about the damage....I didn't think you thought that low of me. I guess now I know that you do, and I'm sorry that you feel that way. I didn't realize I came off as that type of person.
I didn't 'cover my butt' as you put it. I read and then looked at the pics, Then gave an un-requested opinion and I guess that was wrong. But it doesn't matter any more as I am deleting my original post.

My apologies to the original Poster, I meant no offense to you and you client. I wasn't aware that G-10 is so fragile, glad I don't use it.
Dave
 
Didn't mean to cause a conflict between anyone. The customer that had the broken G-10 is about as honest as you get. He is a young kid that designed the cue and waxes it just about every day. If he tells me that's the way that it happen I have no reason to doubt it. The point of this thread was I have installed over 100 G-10 pins and this is the first time that I have had one come back broken. The are by no means "fragile" just not made to take a side impact, like most cue components. No ones fault, shit happens.
 
Fixed pin. Not much to show. Took about 10 minutes. Face off broken pin, drill center, undersized drill bit to get most of the G-10 out and then the rest with a mini bore bar, retap and install pin.
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Not bad at all, It looks like a mighty fine repair from the picture.
So you didn't even have to plug It with a core? The threads cleaned up that easily for ya?

Edit:Well obviously from the picture no core, I guess I was just curious if you had any issues getting the pin back in straight. With the flat face joint, as opposed to a face with a locating pilot. That can sometimes be a challenge, and show up more in the centering of the OD if the threads don't clean up well enough..

10 minutes is pretty good time, It probably would have taken me much longer. My shop is always such a mess, I would have spent longer then that just tracking My tooling down. I suppose that I need to hire someone with your organizing skills to clean up behind me. Your shop pictures did inspire me to clean up a little bit. I can actually get to my inlay station again, now if I only knew where to start with the rest of It. LOL.
 
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Didn't mean to cause a conflict between anyone. The customer that had the broken G-10 is about as honest as you get. He is a young kid that designed the cue and waxes it just about every day. If he tells me that's the way that it happen I have no reason to doubt it. The point of this thread was I have installed over 100 G-10 pins and this is the first time that I have had one come back broken. The are by no means "fragile" just not made to take a side impact, like most cue components. No ones fault, shit happens.



That It does, and nothing surprises me that much anymore. The last 10-15 years of my life has taught me that, as well as the fact that It's too short to sweat the petty stuff. It senseless to conflict over such things when there are always much more serious things to save that energy for.
 
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