Out of line?

[TheThaiger]

The opening shot is here referred to as the break shot. A run is the equivalent of a break (in the UK). The "string" can be a string or it can be a wire and can be referred to by either term... or it can be replaced with a chalkboard or anything else whereby one can keep score. Individual scores are sometimes kept but more often (in my experience) the score is a reflection of the net difference between the two totals. 19 on the wire or string would mean the player having same has a 19 point lead. And isn't it the lead that really matters?

We make bank shots instead of doubles. We don't pot balls, we "make" or pocket them. Most places require a rail be contacted during a shot to avoid a foul. There is no bonus ball, no frozen ball rule, nor any three foul rule in snooker. A shot to nowhere is a foul.

That or some close variation is how I've seen snooker played here in the US since I was a child. The end result is a game that is close enough to the British version to be indistinguishable by most. One who could play well at one could surely and easily adapt to the other (save for the differences in ball and table size).

I don't see the differences in terminology or the slight rule differences as a major source of conflict or irritation.

What REALLY bothers me is the demise of snooker in this country and no apparent serious effort to counter that trend. Bar tables have been our curse.

What about SnookerUSA? Did that ever take off?

 

[acesinc1999]

What about SnookerUSA? Did that ever take off?

Bob Jewett and Alan Morris are regular contributors here and are on the SnookerUSA board among others. There are a handful of sponsored tournaments during the year, but I think the problem is a serious lack of venues. To hold a sanctioned event, a venue must have a minimum of two full size (6 x 12) tables and there is just not too many places that can qualify. Also, SnookerUSA only recognizes the international version of the game. Of course, the differences between international snooker and the American version is where so many of the debates on this forum begin.

Its really a chicken and egg scenario--can't have tournaments to make the sport popular until enough venues are in place, but there won't be enough venues in place until the sport becomes popular.

 

[Wity]

I asked my mate next door who talks a bit of pidgin(I stand corrected) english to translate the post as i was struggling to and heres what he said..

Same ting happen to me las week Whitey, Dhis ras mon twas tekin de piss mon agin me in de club. Der was twenty poond on each frame and anuda 20 poond goin on side bets with dat white fatty lady who fansis you behind de bar holding de cash. Mon I tells you this pussy I was playing he was a shark mon. Sharp as me cutthroat. I'm seven points behind him mon when dits mah turn to shoot. Just like my nickname dah 'Black Hurricane' I pots de balls. bang, bang, bang, bang, dey falls into the pockets in lightnin suckseshion until om left with an easy peasy pink in de side. Man I tells you,da Hurricane likes to shoot a pinky straight in de hole, no touchin de sides just straight in der with a loooong backscrew, bootifull mon.The ladies dey love it I tell you mon.

Den this rhas mon, he open his mouth an say "good game" as if to say "I surrender to yous Hurricane, yous is the man yous is da winner".

Whot would you do if you were me mon? I'm now 22 points in de lead with the pinky and the blacky on de table. Mahnnn dat money was mine.
Just to show off the Hurricanes power instead of potting the pinky staight I plays a fancy double as de ladies were a watchin. But I miss de damn ting. and he opens dem lips wide again "Hang on I'm still in with a shout here"

Cheeky Ras mon. Like de fool I let him trick me mon and i play on. Man i tell you dis mon he was a shark. Had I not won him after all an took his money I would have sliced him with mah razor. Cheeky Rass.

 

[Underclocked]

Wity, I think your neighbor is probably cross-eyed at best. :grin:

 

[Cameron Smith]

Pretty sure your wrong there Cameron, the rules state no such thing.

It's listed under the IBSF rules

5. Conceding
(a) A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent chooses to play on
(b) When aggregate scores apply and a frame is conceded, the value of any balls remaining on the table is added to the score of the other side. In such case, Reds shall count as eight points each and any colour incorrectly.
(c) A player shall not concede a frame in any match unless snookers are required. Any breach of this rule shall be regarded as ungentlemanly conduct by the player concerned.

Based on this the op's opponent broke rule 5c and 5a. In other places, it's considered just a courtesy to allow your opponent to finish his break.

 

[pt109]

I asked my mate next door who talks a bit of pidgin(I stand corrected) english to translate the post as i was struggling to and heres what he said..

Same ting happen to me las week Whitey, Dhis ras mon twas tekin de piss mon agin me in de club. Der was twenty poond on each frame and anuda 20 poond goin on side bets with dat white fatty lady who fansis you behind de bar holding de cash. Mon I tells you this pussy I was playing he was a shark mon. Sharp as me cutthroat. I'm seven points behind him mon when dits mah turn to shoot. Just like my nickname dah 'Black Hurricane' I pots de balls. bang, bang, bang, bang, dey falls into the pockets in lightnin suckseshion until om left with an easy peasy pink in de side. Man I tells you,da Hurricane likes to shoot a pinky straight in de hole, no touchin de sides just straight in der with a loooong backscrew, bootifull mon.The ladies dey love it I tell you mon.

Den this rhas mon, he open his mouth an say "good game" as if to say "I surrender to yous Hurricane, yous is the man yous is da winner".

Whot would you do if you were me mon? I'm now 22 points in de lead with the pinky and the blacky on de table. Mahnnn dat money was mine.
Just to show off the Hurricanes power instead of potting the pinky staight I plays a fancy double as de ladies were a watchin. But I miss de damn ting. and he opens dem lips wide again "Hang on I'm still in with a shout here"

Cheeky Ras mon. Like de fool I let him trick me mon and i play on. Man i tell you dis mon he was a shark. Had I not won him after all an took his money I would have sliced him with mah razor. Cheeky Rass.

:groucho::bow-down::smilewinkgrin::rotflmao1::rotflmao::killingme:

 

[onepocketron]

I am with Underclocked here. I am fortunate to run a little single table club with a 6 x 12 as close to proper as I can make it. I have a dozen members come from near and far. One from Madison, WI travels over 100 miles EACH WAY to come in about once every two weeks or so for four hours of table time. Its a full day for him. I do the best I can to maintain the equipment, but even so, it is probably just about the equivalent of a standard table at the neighborhood Working Man's Club for our British friends. Snooker enthusiasts over here must be particularly dedicated to play on whatever equipment they may find and so should be forgiven for their lack of exposure to the proper vernacular.

To any on the American side, don't be fooled into thinking that a professional 6 x 12 table is really not such a big deal. Consider why it is that we have not managed to place a strong American on the professional circuit. The money is there to be had and should be a lure to any with enough talent. For whatever reason, exposure to the game over here has never gained any traction so it continues to have little more than a "cult" following.

I completely agree with what you stated on the American side. Playing on a 6 x12 is a really big deal (I wouldn't want to play on anything else). Forty five years ago, you could find snooker tables in almost every establishment. As a matter of fact, here in south Texas (Houston area) many places had multilple snooker tables back in that time, and many folks played snooker.

Unfortunately, that is not the case any longer. There is a relatively new club that opened recently (I have yet to make a visit) that has 2 tables. In the entire Houston metropolitan area, there are very few places you can play on a 6 x 12. Most of them are well over an hours drive for me, but a friend and I do make the drive about once or twice a month.