Thats what I mean. All the blue crap all over the ball is going to lead to a skid or 2. I guess you can get used to the wipe down, the price, and not chalking so often.
Kamui Chalk discussion
- Thread starter JoeyA
- Start date
Thats what I mean. All the blue crap all over the ball is going to lead to a skid or 2. I guess you can get used to the wipe down, the price, and not chalking so often.
Opportunity knocks. I can see it now. JoeyA's cue ball cleaning towel, designed especially to remove the blue blemishes from chalking.
Off to Thibodaux, LA for the State Bar Table Championship.
tune into the BigTruck show by clicking here.
I have to keep the chalk in my pocket when I hit balls at home because, otherwise, my 4yo thinks it's hilarious to come running by and either steal the chalk or knock it onto the floor. I use Masters at home and, with the fact that I have to hide the chalk in my pocket, I end up going several shots between chalking some times out of pure laziness of not wanting to dip into my pocket after every shot. I can honestly say that I almost never miscue doing that. I can't say that I NEVER miscue because I'm sure that I have, but I really can't remember the last time that I did while going several shots between chalking.
Of course, I wouldn't do that if I were actually playing anyone, but it does stand to reason that, perhaps, Masters isn't the terribly inferior product that it's been made out to be over the last few years.
I can't speak on Kamui chalk from experience because I'm not going to send in $30 on a piece of chalk and no one likes me enough to give me a cube so, at least for now, I'll have to just take the word of others who use it.
All I can say is have you actaully tried it yet?
Opportunity knocks. I can see it now. JoeyA's cue ball cleaning towel, designed especially to remove the blue blemishes from chalking.
Off to Thibodaux, LA for the State Bar Table Championship.
tune into the BigTruck show by clicking here.
Well good luck Joey, get em! Not trying to knock the chalk, it just pisses me off when I take the time to clean the balls and then i see all this blue crap all over the place. Used it on my break cue and the skid mark seemed to penetrate the ball, couldnt wipe it off. Well I cant waste the 30 bucks. Gonna try it again but not on my break cue, and I'll have to get my own special cleaning towel too!
So I just received my first ever piece of Kamui Chalk. Shot for about 2 hours with it. Justified the expense by not drinking for one night at the pool hall 
I must say its some pretty good stuff; now I'm able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and stop speeding locomotives ! Have a kamui tip also. Watch out if Kamui ever starts making cues !!!!
I must say its some pretty good stuff; now I'm able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and stop speeding locomotives ! Have a kamui tip also. Watch out if Kamui ever starts making cues !!!!
I believe that the last sentence in my post implies that I have not.
However, I guess that claim would not be entirely true. I did hit balls for a few minutes using it at last year's BCA tournament in Vegas. While I did notice the obvious differences in color, consistency, etc., I can honestly say that I noticed no real difference to speak of in how it actually felt while playing. But, again, this is coming from all of about 10 minutes using it. I probably need more time with it to give it a fair shake.
To answer JoeyA's question, I would most definitely pay $30 for the chalk if the claim that it would help me pocket balls better were true, but I have my doubts that the laws of physics would even support that claim. I'm no physicist though, so perhaps someone else (Bob Jewett?) could chime in and let us know if that would even be possible.
Lastly, I keep seeing comparisons to seemingly over-priced cars in the various threads concerning Kamui chalk. First, someone in this thread said that no one complains about the cost of Mercedes or BMW. As an owner of an E350, I can tell you that is not true at all. My sanity has been questioned on more than one occasion because of the higher maintenance costs, as well as the fact that that many people believe that you could buy a car that arguably performs as well for easily half of the cost. So, again, not true. People do question the cost of luxury cars.
With that said, I have two more points to make about the car comparisons. First, it's patently absurd to make the comparison in the first place. It's chalk. It isn't a luxury automobile, or even a Yugo, for that matter.
Second, and this is where the comparison gets really fun, is that $30 for a cube of chalk does not compare to the relative cost of a Mercedes or BMW or any other "common" luxury car. If a chalk like Master would be on par with, say, a Honda Accord (which it would almost certainly be at least that), and I can get a box of 144 pieces for the cost of 1 piece of Kamui chalk, it doesn't take much to figure out that you're looking at a car that our resident gozillionaire Fatboy might have to think long and hard about whether or not to spend that much money on. Let's see, cost of a new Honda Accord is around $25k, multiply that by 144, and we have $3,600,000. That's only about $1.2M more than a new Bugatti Veyron Super Sports. Sooooo ... in one corner, we have a new Bugatti with $1.2M sitting in the glove box, and in the other corner we have Kamui chalk. Doesn't seem like a very fair comparison to me.
Edit: I figured I'd add that you could get the el cheapo base model of the Veyron for about $1.7M or, comparatively speaking, like a half a cube of Kamui Chalk.
Last edited:
I know that Bob Jewett is working on actually testing the chalk. Alot of people that knock the chalk have never tried it. I was one of them until a local place had a cube forsale. As far as the car example you choose the higher cost mercedes because that is a luxury you can afford correct? For me 30 dollar chalk is cheap considering it was something new and I wanted to try it. I just happend to like it.
Last edited:
I wasn't really knocking anyone else for buying it. I've spent money on things that other people would probably laugh about, and then I've been cheap and not spent money on something that someone else might consider a bargain.
The only thing I was saying in reference to the car comparisons is that comparing it to a car at all strikes me as a bit silly but, if someone must make that comparison, at least put the comparison in the proper perspective. We're talking about a relative pricetag that puts the chalk well above the cost of the most expensive car in production.
I'll be interested to hear what Bob Jewitt comes back with. Believe it or not, I'd love to have some unbiased data that suggests that the chalk really could improve shot making. I'd order a case!
Last edited:
I had the pleasure of meeting and playing with fastford on Friday evening. Well....I am not sure what I did can be called playing....but I did hit the ball on a pool table. My game just isn't there anymore...but that is another story and it was really nice to get out.
About this chalk...fastford let me try it. I played something like three hours with it. I cannot say specifically if it does exactly what is claimed but I can say it is amazing chalk. Inconveniently I was trying it out on a cue I had never played with before (I brought the JOSS and warmed up with it, but decided to try out an old Adam I have) so it is difficult to say specifically what the chalk did.
My general impression was that the chalk does grip amazingly well, not only the tip but the ball. I had zero miscues. Now, you might say so what? Well, I was playing like shit. My stroke apparently has fallen apart. I was stabbing, with a cue that's an inch shorter than I am used to, and a tip that is old and unknown, and a shaft that although in great condition has more of a European taper.
The stuff isn't really chalk. It's more like a paste of some sort.
Does it do exactly what is claimed? I don't know.
I am determined to start getting out a little and get some of my game back. I also know one other thing. I want that chalk.
Thank you fastford.
About this chalk...fastford let me try it. I played something like three hours with it. I cannot say specifically if it does exactly what is claimed but I can say it is amazing chalk. Inconveniently I was trying it out on a cue I had never played with before (I brought the JOSS and warmed up with it, but decided to try out an old Adam I have) so it is difficult to say specifically what the chalk did.
My general impression was that the chalk does grip amazingly well, not only the tip but the ball. I had zero miscues. Now, you might say so what? Well, I was playing like shit. My stroke apparently has fallen apart. I was stabbing, with a cue that's an inch shorter than I am used to, and a tip that is old and unknown, and a shaft that although in great condition has more of a European taper.
The stuff isn't really chalk. It's more like a paste of some sort.
Does it do exactly what is claimed? I don't know.
I am determined to start getting out a little and get some of my game back. I also know one other thing. I want that chalk.
Thank you fastford.
How about paste-like then? After all, I didn't say it was a paste....I said it was like a paste now didn't I? :wink:
I honestly have a feeling it is more than just a finer granule, though obviously it is finer. Just a feeling of course.
I think the description is important for people who have not tried it. If you are expecting "chalk" you will be very surprised....like I was.
I wasn't really knocking anyone else for buying it. I've spent money on things that other people would probably laugh about, and then I've been cheap and not spent money on something that someone else might consider a bargain.
The only thing I was saying in reference to the car comparisons is that comparing it to a car at all strikes me as a bit silly but, if someone must make that comparison, at least put the comparison in the proper perspective. We're talking about a relative pricetag that puts the chalk well above the cost of the most expensive car in production.
I'll be interested to hear what Bob Jewitt comes back with. Believe it or not, I'd love to have some unbiased data that suggests that the chalk really could improve shot making. I'd order a case!
I was fresh out of bed when I first read your post. Now that I am awake I understand what you are saying with the car example.
Own a cube, have experimented with it for a couple of months. In terms of adherence, it's the best chalk ever, unfortunately, it also adheres to the cue ball (the dotted measles cue ball in particular) much better than any other chalk, which I happen to find a HUGE problem. Other than that, it's true one can play several racks without chalking up, although I've now figured out I could play whole racks using either Masters, Blue Diamond (my third favourite) or Cosmo (my second favourite). All these brands will do as far as I'm concerned, although in different climates, my preference might change (chalk invariably works best here in dry winter, other seasons can be a problem for e.g. Masters). What I'm using my Kamui chalk for now is every time I have to reshape my tip, or when I'm putting on a new one, I'll put a bottom layer of Kamui on it until the roughened-up tip surface turns smoother again, then use e.g. Masters or Blue Diamond over it. In other words, at this rate it'll serve me a lifetime, putting the price into perspective. Thus far, I couldn't find a single type of shot I do better or worse using Kamui chalk.
Greetings from Switzerland, David.
_________________
„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
Greetings from Switzerland, David.
_________________
„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
You did but it is my opinion that paste-like and like a paste are not correct and give the wrong impression.
I thought it was like mascara and went to a cosmetics store to try and find something similar. In fact it's not even close to mascara.
I agree that the smoothness with which it goes is quite different. But it is chalk and saying it's like paste can give the wrong impression I think. It's chalk just way smoother.
TheThaiger
Banned
It's not pastey enough for me. It's actually rather powdery - have a look at how much fine dust it throws up when chalking under the lights.
So, to summarise - Kamui chalk first comes out, everyone hates it. Now everyone's actually used it, everyone loves it.
Well its pretty easy to hate on a $25 cube of chalk. At first it sounds crazy just to buy it, but my curiosity got the best of me.
It's surely not powdery or pasty though, not to me anyway. As compared to masters, someone here said it felt like base makeup or eye shadow...and I agree. Some of it probably flakes off, but all chalk flakes.... doesnt bother me.
I must say its some pretty good stuff; now I'm able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and stop speeding locomotives !QUOTE]
But......are you faster than a speeding bullet???
Maniac
So I just received my first ever piece of Kamui Chalk. Shot for about 2 hours with it. Justified the expense by not drinking for one night at the pool hall
Ahahahahaha! That's what I'm talking about!
One thing that everyone does with the Kamui chalk is WATCH IT LIKE A HAWK!
Used it yesterday and last night in the Louisiana State Bar Table Championship. It worked well. Don't remember any miscues. I'm still on the winner's side. The chalk is holding up. Let's see if I can do my part.
One thing that everyone does with the Kamui chalk is WATCH IT LIKE A HAWK!
Used it yesterday and last night in the Louisiana State Bar Table Championship. It worked well. Don't remember any miscues. I'm still on the winner's side. The chalk is holding up. Let's see if I can do my part.
Tear it up Joey; good luck winning the tournament I'm rootin for you.