Observations re: Shanelle Lorraine at SBE 2012

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I did not have time to play this year, but I stopped by on Saturday for a few hours to hang with friends and check out the new venue. It was only a 120-mile drive for me, so no big deal.

Anyway, I saw Shanelle in person for the first time. She is a beautiful girl, that goes without saying. She did not seem to be a strong player, but my point for this thread was to share how predictable the comments were regarding her game/looks etc.

Almost every man commented on her appearance, and not always respectfully, if you catch my drift. The comments were not negative, just very sexual, as you can imagine.

Almost every female strongly critiqued her wardrobe (she was overdressed, who wears high heels to a pool event, etc.).

Almost everyone was critical of her quality of play.

Now, I don't know her, but I am sure she is a nice person.
I just wanted to share that I found the responses obvious and amusing.

My best friend was competing on a table opposite hers, so a few people felt the need to tease me about "We know who you're REALLY watching!"

It was all fairly harmless, but I found it interesting how a beautiful woman can spark so much discussion and reaction.

If she gets sponsorship, money, training and attention because of her looks and not her playing abilities, then so what? She lives in the same world we do. Is it fair? Probably not...but the haters will always hate.

I would say to her, "Carry on! Your looks and youth won't last forever, so enjoy it while you can! Life is short!"

Thanks for reading.
 
I'm sure most of us have no idea what it's like to look that way and put up with exactly what you described on a daily basis. Especially when there is substance, intellect, or skill to back up the looks.

In Shanelle's case, I agree she is very attractive, and also agree that her game is probably not at the level that it's sometimes marketed as, although I have a feeling that has to do more with her promoters than her. I met her at one of the Predator pool schools, and she is very nice and was genuinely interested in improving her pool game. I saw her a few months later and didn't want to go rushing up to her like we were long lost friends since she was there promoting an event, but she saw me and came right over and started chatting. I was impressed with not only her looks but her personality and enjoyment of the game.

As for marketing, Jeannette Lee, Ewa Mataya, etc. have certainly capitalized on their looks and personalities and there's nothing wrong with that. Yes they have the game to back it up, but even in Shanelle's case if she's able to be a spokesperson and help promote the game and earn a living then good for her, she deserves it.

Scott
 
building on this.....I'm lucky that my wife is quite stunning (I am not!)

The point being I see how people interact with her, and beautiful women (like Shanelle) just dont live in the same world the rest of us do. They get the types of comments you mention all the time. I'm sure Shanelle is very used to it.

But its a two way street, if Shanelle hated the attention she gets she would dress differently.
 
OK look, Shanelle is a very pretty girl. Would I say drop dead gorgeous, no but Im not a guy. Is Shanelle a world class pool player? I know guys at my local bar who still play bar rules that can beat her.
Im not hating, im just trying to point out how shallow this fiasco is. Its about people saying that they see through bs. There are women out there that deserve exposure in pool. Im sorry but she is not one of them. She puts herself out there to be judged. If she wants it to change then she needs to play better or lose Charlie Williams.
I have said it a few times, I dont think its her fault, its all the people promoting her. Pool players critique pros. She a world class player so she gets to be critiqued. The reason I comment on her shoes is because those are not shoes of an athlete. Its symbolic of how ridiculous her being a poster child for pool is.
Honestly, most of my criticism is towards the event and not Shanelle. Just cant take her being a world class player seriously.
 
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I am Ocd-ing on Shanelle. I think she has a cute voice and is good for the promotion of pool. And so is Borana...should attract a lot of people to the game..like me. I will stalk you Borana. MUAAAH!
 
dorabelle said:
OK look, Shanelle is a very pretty girl. Would I say drop dead gorgeous, no but Im not a guy. Is Shanelle a world class pool player? I know guys at my local bar who still play bar rules that can beat her.
Im not hating, im just trying to point out how shallow this fiasco is. Its about people saying that they see through bs. There are women out there that deserve exposure in pool. Im sorry but she is not one of them. She puts herself out there to be judged. If she wants it to change then she needs to play better or lose Charlie Williams.
I have said it a few times, I dont think its her fault, its all the people promoting her. Pool players critique pros. She a world class player so she gets to be critiqued. The reason I comment on her shoes is because those are not shoes of an athlete. Its symbolic of how ridiculous her being a poster child for pool is.
Honestly, most of my criticism is towards the event and not Shanelle. Just cant take her being a world class player seriously.
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No she is not a world-class player...yet.
Who knows, in 10 years or so she might be, if she sticks with it and tries her hardest.

As for the fiasco being shallow...you have a point, but again, no fault of her own.
And just to be clear, heels may not be the shoe of choice for an athlete, but pool is not athletic...:) Oh I am going to get flamed for this one...hahaha!

Anybody remember Tina Turner? If she could do her act on stage in heels, Shanelle can certainly cut a ball in the corner pocket!

Oh, and don't forget strippers and their heels...oh wait...that's what I heard...:)
 
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michael4 said:
building on this.....I'm lucky that my wife is quite stunning (I am not!)

The point being I see how people interact with her, and beautiful women (like Shanelle) just dont live in the same world the rest of us do. They get the types of comments you mention all the time. I'm sure Shanelle is very used to it.

But its a two way street, if Shanelle hated the attention she gets she would dress differently.
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To be fair though, she was not dressed provocatively. She had on a flashy gold top and black pants. The heels were high, but that's about it.

But like you said, when the person is very attractive anything they wear will look good, most of the time.

For example, if I wore her exact outfit I would probably be in jail for creating a public disturbance and frightening small children and certain farm animals...:)
 
whats with these shanelle lorraine threads? She not a bad looking chick and looks a bit on the bigger side to me and is an ok pool player, but defiantly not worthy of this attention she is getting on here?
 
dorabelle said:
OK look, Shanelle is a very pretty girl. Would I say drop dead gorgeous, no but Im not a guy. Is Shanelle a world class pool player? I know guys at my local bar who still play bar rules that can beat her.
Im not hating, im just trying to point out how shallow this fiasco is. Its about people saying that they see through bs. There are women out there that deserve exposure in pool. Im sorry but she is not one of them. She puts herself out there to be judged. If she wants it to change then she needs to play better or lose Charlie Williams.
I have said it a few times, I dont think its her fault, its all the people promoting her. Pool players critique pros. She a world class player so she gets to be critiqued. The reason I comment on her shoes is because those are not shoes of an athlete. Its symbolic of how ridiculous her being a poster child for pool is.
Honestly, most of my criticism is towards the event and not Shanelle. Just cant take her being a world class player seriously.
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It seems like your issue is more with CW than with Shanelle. I have seen her in other venues not related to DP or CW and she is dressed similarly. This was the same outfit she was wearing playing at the SBE. I don't agree with classifying her as a world class player though. But this event was more about drawing interest from non pool players.

While it may not sit well with you but non pool players want entertainment and looks play a part in that. Either have some who is entertaining and has a big personality or attractive preferably both. Personally I didn't find either outfit outrageous or overly sexual.

I agree that pool is not athletic to an extent. All professional tournaments need a dress code. No sneakers, jeans, tee shirts, etc.
 
inside_english said:
For example, if I wore her exact outfit I would probably be in jail for creating a public disturbance and frightening small children and certain farm animals...:)
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Please let me know when and where you're going to wear that outfit. I want to have my camera ready. :grin:

My only gripe with this whole thing is that Shanelle is getting attention from sponsors while girls that can really play don't get a second glance. In a perfect world, sponsorship would be based on ability to play and not bra size. JMHO.
 
dorabelle said:
She puts herself out there to be judged. If she wants it to change then she needs to play better or lose Charlie Williams.

Has Shanelle said she had any problem with the criticism? Has she even acknowledged one post about herself? She is a smart girl who knew this would be coming and is certainly used to jealous people being themselves all her life. She is just being herself.

As far as Charlie, I'm sure he is LOVING every bump Shanelle gets in these exposure threads.
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Luxury said:
dorabelle said:
She puts herself out there to be judged. If she wants it to change then she needs to play better or lose Charlie Williams.

Has Shanelle said she had any problem with the criticism? Has she even acknowledged one post about herself? She is a smart girl who knew this would be coming and is certainly used to jealous people being themselves all her life. She is just being herself.

As far as Charlie, I'm sure he is LOVING every bump Shanelle gets in these exposure threads.
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You can stop with the jealousy stuff bud. No way in hell would I want to be in that girls shoes. I wouldn't want to be a C player with that kind of pressure on me being pranced around a pool table for my looks. My issue isnt with her. My issue is with the sexual objectification of female pool players. Obviously something you haven't dealt with for years. Looking at your avatar, you wont understand. Circuses like this don't help.
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michael4 said:
building on this.....I'm lucky that my wife is quite stunning (I am not!)
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So you must have money...lol. Just keeping with the general theme about woman and men.

Please know I am joking here, although I am sure everyone will miss it...lol.
 
She's not a strong player and would be an absolute nobody without her looks. There are 100 women in my home room I'd back over Shanelle. But I agree with whoever said above that it's not her fault - who could blame her? - but the fault of her handlers, who are trying to promote her.
 
Sickening

Like I said in another thread:

Jennette Lee did it right learn how to play, then go shine under the lights!

If anyone thinks that this is good for pool I'm shocked. To take some one who can't play and then promote this match is if it were a big deal is degrading to the sport of pool. I also find it offensive and in poor taste to me and the many fine female players out there who have worked hard to learn and can shoot some pool, what a joke. Is this really some ones idea of what is good for the sport?
It'sfroze AKA Yourcall

Put this on (Two And A Half Men) with Tiger Blood running the event and maybe you got something as a comedy.
 
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Actors & Singers

Rich R. said:
Please let me know when and where you're going to wear that outfit. I want to have my camera ready. :grin:

My only gripe with this whole thing is that Shanelle is getting attention from sponsors while girls that can really play don't get a second glance. In a perfect world, sponsorship would be based on ability to play and not bra size. JMHO.
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If You don't think that looks play a part in life. You should take a look at actors & Singers.
Very few Actors make it because they can ACT.
Very few Singers don't get a chance if they don't have the looks.
 
inside_english said:
I did not have time to play this year, but I stopped by on Saturday for a few hours to hang with friends and check out the new venue. It was only a 120-mile drive for me, so no big deal.

Anyway, I saw Shanelle in person for the first time. She is a beautiful girl, that goes without saying. She did not seem to be a strong player, but my point for this thread was to share how predictable the comments were regarding her game/looks etc.

Almost every man commented on her appearance, and not always respectfully, if you catch my drift. The comments were not negative, just very sexual, as you can imagine.

Almost every female strongly critiqued her wardrobe (she was overdressed, who wears high heels to a pool event, etc.).

Almost everyone was critical of her quality of play.

Now, I don't know her, but I am sure she is a nice person.
I just wanted to share that I found the responses obvious and amusing.

My best friend was competing on a table opposite hers, so a few people felt the need to tease me about "We know who you're REALLY watching!"

It was all fairly harmless, but I found it interesting how a beautiful woman can spark so much discussion and reaction.

If she gets sponsorship, money, training and attention because of her looks and not her playing abilities, then so what? She lives in the same world we do. Is it fair? Probably not...but the haters will always hate.

I would say to her, "Carry on! Your looks and youth won't last forever, so enjoy it while you can! Life is short!"

Thanks for reading.
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I admire her courage to play in the pit and hope she improves her game. As for her looks, use it while you can. She seems very nice and not a b---h so I am a fan.
 
Omgosh! I am watching it again over the amway cup. Actually I was watching both but had to shut off one for better resolution. I had no idea how entertaining it can be to watch women's pool. Now I know why Johnnyt is always sweating the girls. I guess its the same for women. I mean if I'm a girl I would want to sweat Fabio Petroni too....and fantasize about him feeding me chocolate strawberries. Wouldn't you?
 
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