Jim Pierce, bowling alley shaft, workmanship

I like his bowling alley shafts, great hit and play... and a bit darker in color which looks cool.
 
It is time for me to say something since I have sold more of these shafts than I can count. They are some of the denses Maple shafts I've ever had and I've had alot. These shafts are usually a darker Mapl;e with maybe a sugar mark or something. They HIT better than 75% of the shafts out there. I have never had a person complain about them. If anything they are stiffer and play with less deflection than some people are use to. I wish they had them when I was on top of my game some 40 years ago.
That does it for the product, which I thought this section was ment for. It was not ment for private conversations and personalities. You knock a guys life and his livelyhood enough and he is going to fight back and that is human and not ment to be broadcasted for the public. I believe it is way out of line to bring all that out as Doug has in this thread. It is suppose to be about Jim's Great 'Bowling Alley" shafts which I brought to AZ in the first place! I have a pretty fair rep and most people know I will not sell junk and these shafts are as good as it gets!
TOMMIE

I don't see anywhere were it says that this thread is supposed to be about Jim's great "Bowling Alley" shafts. It was one persone review of his peirce bowling alley shaft. He paid good money for the shaft and he's entitled to his opinion. It's nice that Jim has so many happy customers but this guys not. I read his review and unless he's not telling the truth which I have no way to prove his review sounded just, and fine to me. Sounds to me like Jim's cues and workmanship just aren'`t for the OP.
 
I don't see anywhere were it says that this thread is supposed to be about Jim's great "Bowling Alley" shafts. It was one persone review of his peirce bowling alley shaft. He paid good money for the shaft and he's entitled to his opinion. It's nice that Jim has so many happy customers but this guys not. I read his review and unless he's not telling the truth which I have no way to prove his review sounded just, and fine to me. Sounds to me like Jim's cues and workmanship just aren'`t for the OP.

He didn't pay one red cent. Get your story straight. :rolleyes:
 
He didn't pay one red cent. Get your story straight. :rolleyes:

I did not pay one red cent, but it certainly did cost me.

There will be a conclusion to this adventure.... I should know by next week if some restitution has been made.
 
I did not pay one red cent, but it certainly did cost me.

There will be a conclusion to this adventure.... I should know by next week if some restitution has been made.
Sounds like you're well on your way to blackmailing/extorting another cuemaker. How many more times will you pull this BS?

There should be a Cue Buyer Review forum, so AZB members can do their homework before having the misfortune of dealing with someone like yourself.
 
It's good to see all types of reviews. It's naive to think that all transactions with all cuemakers and customers come out smelling like daisies and spring flowers. I for one welcome both positive and negative reviews.

this allows the rest of the azb members to decided for themselves their own conclusion where their hard earned money should be spent.

Of course reviews are always one sided as the cue maker doesn't have the ability to post reviews of the customer..ie. payment method, customer demands. etc.

So each member should complete their due diligence and make sure to follow thru by contacting the cue maker/case maker/ company in order to be fully informed.

By in the end the world is not perfect and neither should every review.
 
Sounds like you're well on your way to blackmailing/extorting another cuemaker. How many more times will you pull this BS?

There should be a Cue Buyer Review forum, so AZB members can do their homework before having the misfortune of dealing with someone like yourself.

This is the 2nd nasty post that you've directed at me, are you personally involved with this transaction? Are you aware of all the facts? Or do you have nothing better to do with your time? If you believe that the cue is in great shape you can buy it....I'll even use escrow for ya. Hope you never get the "short end of the stick", excuse the pun.

Have a nice day.....:smile:
 
This is the 2nd nasty post that you've directed at me, are you personally involved with this transaction? Are you aware of all the facts? Or do you have nothing better to do with your time? If you believe that the cue is in great shape you can buy it....I'll even use escrow for ya. Hope you never get the "short end of the stick", excuse the pun.

Have a nice day.....:smile:
It is fairly obvious that the sole purpose of this thread, and the one you posted in the Main Forum, was to damage the cuemaker's reputation; not an attempt at a reasonable solution.

Anyone with enough brains to use the search feature of the AZB forums can discover that this isn't the first time you've pulled a move like this. I'm betting it won't be the last, either.

If you would like me to buy your cue, I have a nice crispy $100 bill for you. I think the cue all by itself is worth far more, but considering the potential grief and misery I may be subjecting myself to by dealing with you, I feel that is fair market value.

Have a nice day. :)
 

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My take on the bowling alley shafts that Jim Pierce markets with his cues:

Jim Pierce recently made one of his bowling alley shafts for a Mike Wheeler cue that I had him refinish. There has been a lot of hype around that these shafts are "special" or are somehow better than other shafts out in the market. In my opinion, they are actually inferior to a grade A shaft that good cuemakers provide with their cues. The overall quality of the wood itself would be discarded by most cuemakers who want "quality" maple. ie....ring count, color, density, tone, etc...

Jim Pierce suggests that his bowling alley shafts are nice and heavy, which is probably true. However, the weight results from the thickness of his taper (there is alot of wood in the rear of the shaft). As far as hit is concerned, I did not care for the playability at all. I found it particular ackward to "stroke" with and did not care for the taper or the sound or feel that the shaft had. Of course this is all subjective and just my opinion. To each his own.

I have voiced my views of Jim Pierce's workmanship and customer service in the main forum which can be viewed here:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=267593

For those that don't want to read through all that, suffice it to say, I consider his workmanship on a cue that I sent to him to be sloppy and of poor quality. He somehow managed to botch a simple refinish. If anyone wants to discuss this I would be more than happy to....just pm me.



Sir, I know you have a bad situation with Mr Pierce....from your story, it's seem that Mr Pierce did a bad thing to you....But, what is exactly your intention to put 2 thread to humiliate him and attack him this hard? do you know that he is a ONLY a cuemaker that try to make a living from this little job...and do you know that if your thread is success then many many member here would not put any order to him...Ask yourself, do you want to see somebody broke and cannot feed his family because of your act.....

I believe there will be some wise way to deal with him and both of you can get a happy result.....but, please stop this thread, it's not good for him and i believe it's not good for you too....

Best
Dedy
 
He's a busines man ... If he doesn't take care of his customers then yes he deserves to be Out of business. I wouldn't order from him because of the nonsense my friend went through with him but over all I think he's a good cue maker ... They do hit nice and look great And I don't think one bad review will put him out of business.
 
He's a busines man ... If he doesn't take care of his customers then yes he deserves to be Out of business. I wouldn't order from him because of the nonsense my friend went through with him but over all I think he's a good cue maker ... They do hit nice and look great And I don't think one bad review will put him out of business.

I agree. I think it is fairly obvious that he can put out a nice product, since there are obviously a bunch of happy customers.

On a side note, this is a fairly unique situation in that he was working on another cue makers cue. If you mess up, it can be difficult, if not impossible to correct any issues. If you mess up on your own cue, you can always throw it in the trash and start over again.
 
It is fairly obvious that the sole purpose of this thread, and the one you posted in the Main Forum, was to damage the cuemaker's reputation; not an attempt at a reasonable solution.

Anyone with enough brains to use the search feature of the AZB forums can discover that this isn't the first time you've pulled a move like this. I'm betting it won't be the last, either.

If you would like me to buy your cue, I have a nice crispy $100 bill for you. I think the cue all by itself is worth far more, but considering the potential grief and misery I may be subjecting myself to by dealing with you, I feel that is fair market value.

Have a nice day. :)

I see you have 0 itrader, since you have probably never bought or sold a cue in your life, I can safely assume you don't know much about cues, or transactions for that matter.

As far as my transaction concerning Skip Weston, if you also use the search function, you will also see posts by me positively raving about Skip Weston's shafts. I love 'em. So much so, that every other cue that I own or have hit with, just doesn't seem right for me.

My current playing cue is a Southwest butt w/ Skip Weston shafts. I call it a SouthWestin.

I suggest you take your crisp $100 bill and buy yourself some lessons.

Have a nice day :smile:
 
I see you have 0 itrader, since you have probably never bought or sold a cue in your life, I can safely assume you don't know much about cues, or transactions for that matter.
I prefer to deal with cues in person where one-way individuals like yourself have to look me in the eye when they lie to me.

And for your information, I have bought and sold many cues, Southwests included, long before forums like this where someone could hold a cuemaker's reputation hostage while hiding behind a computer screen.

Salamander said:
As far as my transaction concerning Skip Weston, if you also use the search function, you will also see posts by me positively raving about Skip Weston's shafts. I love 'em. So much so, that every other cue that I own or have hit with, just doesn't seem right for me.
I can see how much you love Skip's shafts, from all your negative posts and malicious remarks about him that still remain on these forums.
 
hiding behind a computer screen.

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I'm certainly not hiding, not from you, or anybody else. However, I've noticed that you're just a Penguin, with a bad attitude. As far as malicious comments, maybe you need to look in a mirror. :smile:
 
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I don't know if you have ever put your hard work out there for the world to see just to have some know it all but done nothing put it down.
 
I don't know if you have ever put your hard work out there for the world to see just to have some know it all but done nothing put it down.


I don't think I understand your post. So what your saying is if a cue maker does a bad job and then gives me crappy service I shouldn't let anyone know about it because I don't want to hurt his feelings?

I really have nothing against pierce... My main post in this thread was to point out that every time someone has a problem with a cue maker on this forum he's treated like a lier and trash because every cue maker is perfect in the eyes of the people on this forum. I swear you guys think a cue maker should be able to come to my house and crap on my porch and I should just smile and clean it up..lol
 
I know the argument persists whether it's the "Indian" or the "Arrow"...but I just wanted to point out what just happened in Vegas:

Amar Kang defeated Shane Van Boening while Amar was playing with a Pierce Custom Cue with a bowling alley wood shaft...

and

Jose Parica defeated Rodney Morris while Parica was playing with a Pierce Custom Cue...unfortunately I think Rodney was playing with a Pierce Custom Cue with a bowling alley wood shaft as well! (Either way, a Pierce cue was used to win!)


And last week at the Stonyear Memorial Tournament in California both Amar Kang and Rodney Morris split first and second place...you guessed it, using Pierce Custom Cues...
 
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