If you could recast The Color of Money...

Vincent: Chris Evans

Eddie: Harrison Ford

Carmen: Eva Mendes

Why not a continuance on the story... Vincent now down and out had a son, who he abandoned (didn't know about). Bla bla bla... Kid saves Vincet or vice versa.. maybe the kid is indebted to Turtorro's original character and Vince saves him or some stuff like that...

JV
 
Many different views. Here is another...how about COM being done in the same style as Rounders? Pretty good movie that gave you a feel for Texas Hold'em. Not a sequel to The Hustler but a different movie altogether, maybe about companions on the road?
 
Spider1 said:
Just casting anyone but Tom Cruise would have been a 100% improvement.

But really the storyline sucks and would need a lot of reworking to make into a good movie.





The movie should have been about Eddy's evolution as a person, and where he had ended up and what sort of development had taken place in his persona over the years. That sort of character development is what made the first movie so good.

Vincent's character was a distraction, at best. And a dumb annoying one to boot. He should have been toned wayyyyy down, and relegated to a minor supporting role, at most. The character of Carmen was useless also. Just filler.


Edit: I think Newman himself realized TCOM was a stinker because he pretty much sleepwalked through it. The Oscar was just throwing him a bone.

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Boy, I couldn't agree more. Anyone but Tom Cruise. He really made Vincent look like a clown instead of a serious pool player. Story line could be greatly improved by making it truer to life. Everyone praises Sorcese as a great director but he always has his actors and the scrips ham it up. Replacements: Clint Eastwood as director (I would like him as Eddie but he may be too old), Alex Pagulayan as Vincent, and okay let's go with Earl Strickland as Fast Eddie Felson. Now the problem is women - Selena Gomez is the right age for Alex but too pretty. Lucy Liu might just be the right one to play tough, sexy, girlfriend for Vincent. Lucy and Alex fit together. Someone mentioned Maria Bello as Eddie's girlfriend and I think she and Earl would make a great couple. Maybe Johnny Archer as the guy that keeps putting the bite on Eddie in the beginning of the movie and losing it to Vincent. And surely Shane could play the hustler that took Eddie. Wow, now that's a movie I would like to see.
 
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pt109 said:
Travolta is my pick for Paul Newman's replacement. John has aged
gracefully and is a better actor than when he was young.

I'm no Tom Cruise fan...other than Rainman. I'm even less of a fan now
that he has captured the Jack Reacher role.:angry:
If his character was revived, I don't know who could do it...a young Ed
Norton or a young Dustin Hoffman would have been perfect.

I thought the MOVIE-The Hustler-was better than the book.
I thought the BOOK-The Color of Money-was better than the movie.
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I disagree...I thought the book and the movie The Hustler were the same...TCOM movie was much more compelling story than the book, which was just flat out depressing...kind of "meh". Fast Eddie gets divorced, is broke, loses his pool room, decides he wants to come back, but has a very hard time...talks Fats into a series of televised games of 14.1 on sub-par bar box tables, nobody cares, he can't ever seem to get even close to Fats, Fats dies, he works his way up to playing the Grady Seasons character as a climax. The Scorsese redux of the storyline is much better, really. You need the whole Eddie turned into Burt Gordon when he wasn't looking and he uses Vincent to win his soul back...the story Tevis should have written but didn't.
 
Ryan Gosling as Vincent

Mila Kunis as Carmen

Robert Redford as Fast Eddie


John Turturro, Keith Mcready, and Forest Whitaker would stay the same.
 
West Point 1987 said:
I disagree...I thought the book and the movie The Hustler were the same...TCOM movie was much more compelling story than the book, which was just flat out depressing...kind of "meh". Fast Eddie gets divorced, is broke, loses his pool room, decides he wants to come back, but has a very hard time...talks Fats into a series of televised games of 14.1 on sub-par bar box tables, nobody cares, he can't ever seem to get even close to Fats, Fats dies, he works his way up to playing the Grady Seasons character as a climax. The Scorsese redux of the storyline is much better, really. You need the whole Eddie turned into Burt Gordon when he wasn't looking and he uses Vincent to win his soul back...the story Tevis should have written but didn't.
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Interesting...you really made me start thinking some old thoughts.
In the book,The Hustler, I thought the ending was a downer...Eddy is on
the way to giving up his soul, which is what made him a great player.
In the movie, he doesn't. He stands up to the people that want to
control him.

In the book, The Color of Money, it was the little things that captivated
me.....like when the young guns at 9-ball are watching him warm up at
his first tournament, they can see the old guy knows what he's doing.
But then he breaks in his first match...it was a cream-puff break...
...and someone in the bleachers says "Straight-pool player."
Lines like that make me realize that Walter Tevis is one of us.

But that's my point of view...formed by my pool-playing and reading
habits....we can disagree and still get along.
 
Jonah Hill as Vincent
Keith McCready as Eddie
Natalie Portman as Carmen
Johnny Depp as Amos

I guess with those characters, you could just change the names and make it a spinoff featuring Grady Seasons rather than a remake
 
Sam Elliot, Willie Nelson, or Keith Richards as Fast Eddie

Asthon Kutcher, Justin Bieber, or Angus T Jones as Vincent
 
classiccues said:
Vincent: Chris Evans

Eddie: Harrison Ford

Carmen: Eva Mendes

Why not a continuance on the story... Vincent now down and out had a son, who he abandoned (didn't know about). Bla bla bla... Kid saves Vincet or vice versa.. maybe the kid is indebted to Turtorro's original character and Vince saves him or some stuff like that...

JV
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Aaah... Sequel makes more sense than a remake.
 
Casting will determine:

If it makes money.
or
If it gets good reviews.
or
If pool players like it.


No casting will get all three.
 
How does a pick any actor even ones who were 6yrs old when the movie was filmed (mark walhberg) thread turn into a create your own completely different script just keeping the TCOM name hehe.

Shouldn't the changes of cast actually be people who could have actually been cast in 1986 for the whole thread to not be just a joke?...lol

How about Micheal j Fox or John Cusack? they were both about as big or even bigger stars than cruise in 1986 :)
 
MRP2k12 said:
This is my favorite lineup so far, Ryan Gosling is a good young actor,Robert Redford a legend and well Mila Kunis is just so freaking hot! not a bad actress either.

About kingpin though, isint it kind of a parody of the COM and the hustler?
There are alot of similiarities...like the upstair bowling alley, the mentor and protegy realtionship, hustling in bowling lol.
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I've noticed the same thing about Kingpin.. it's one of my favorite comedies and there are a LOT of similarities with The Hustler and TCOM.
 
Masayoshi said:
Jonah Hill as Vincent
Keith McCready as Eddie
Natalie Portman as Carmen
Johnny Depp as Amos

I guess with those characters, you could just change the names and make it a spinoff featuring Grady Seasons rather than a remake
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Natalie Portman always comes to mind but she's a little too close to my heart so I don't like seeing her cast as the slutty girlfriend type. Haha

Keith McCready would be cool as Eddie but I'm not sure if he has the acting chops to carry a lead role.

All good choices though :thumbup:
 
IMHO Remaking or Recasting something like Color of Money, The Hustler or True Grit don't work. Buy an Original DVD, and wear it out fromwatching. You will alway see something you missed the last time.
 
DoubleD said:
John Travolta???!

You should watch some 'Boardwalk Empire' before saying that Buscemi wouldn't work.

Travolta is way to hammy to play it.
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I like Travolta...I think his work as Chili Palmer has what it takes.
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Get Shorty..https://www.google.ca/url?url=http:...shorty&usg=AFQjCNGERqzhmGPht5MXq_3NdhLp-FoRAA

..and in case you didn't notice....lotta hams in the pool world..:yeah:
 
I've actually thought about this many times and its actually hard to think of a cast that would click and do justice to the movie. Even though I absolutely despised him when he was younger, I think DiCapprio would be great as Vincent. As for Eddie, i'm going a different direction and saying Morgan Freeman, as theres never been a role he couldnt dominate. Carmen is a tough one for me, as I see few to no ladies that I think would do the part right. If I had to choose, I'd probably go with Elisha Cuthbert maybe, but that would be for pure attraction purposes.
 
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King Pin was a spoof, and I rather have a sequel than a remake of The Color of Money. Knowing Hollywood, the remake would probably be directed by Michael Bay and would include lots of explosions.

Here is my story idea of a sequel. Vincent, Tom Cruise's character, after a long career on the 9-ball circuit retires and buys himself pool bar league franchise. His bar league is so successful, he has a full staff of people just to process the weekly score sheets.

To keep his payouts, eh expenses even lower, he awards two trips to the nationals in Las Vegas ever since he started his bi-cup format.

Mars Callahan's character Johnny Doyle, after winning big from Pool Hall Junkies has gone back to selling RV in order keep his girlfriend happy. He plays on his brother's bar league team as a SL 4, and with his help they win the trip to Las Vegas.

As a scene homage to the Color of Money, Vincent takes a cue, screws it together and throws it to Mars Callahan. He tells Johnny, Mars' character that its a Balabushka given to him by Fast Eddie Felson (Paul Newman).

Out in Las Vegas Johnny's team loses in the first round. They're flat broke and can't even afford the buffet at the Peppermill. Desperate for money, he takes the Balabushka to the World Famous Gold & Silver Pawn Shop. They're filming PawnStars that day, so he's hoping Rick Harrison, the owner will personally takes care of him. Instead he gets waited on by Chumley, who looks up the 3rd edition of the Blue Book and identifies it as a Joss N7 and only offers him $300 bucks, despite Johnny insisting its a Balabushka.

Dejected, while still lingering in the pawn shop he sees they they have 6 cases of Pre-Flag Masters for $25 a case. The dry desert air has kept the moisture level to a minimum, so they play just as good back then as now. He buys them, covers each chalk cube with new stickers calling them Fast Eddie Felson's own, complete with mug shot and inscribed as version .97). Using every trick from selling RVs, he's able to sell each cube for $25 a piece. Earning enough to pay for his team to have a good time in Las Vegas and fly home.

The End
 
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