Having stance(?) issues

[Zkid09]

Hey guys, I've been playin a fair amount for the past month or two, trying to get back in the swing of things.
Today I wasn't shooting very well and notices that the butt of the cue swinging out in my stroke. This is making it difficult for me on longer shots inparticular because its making the ball drift a touch left making me miss the shot.
Ive also noticed the stick hits my stomach/side every now and then. I'm not a big person at all so I know it has to be stance.
Can anyone give any advice here??

 

[Scott Lee]

The correct stance is the one that works for you...you should be balanced, comfortable, a tripod, and have free-range movement of the cuestick along your range of motion. With a good pendulum swing your grip hand should finish against your chest on almost every shot.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

 

[PGHteacher]

Today I wasn't shooting very well and notices that the butt of the cue swinging out in my stroke. This is making it difficult for me on longer shots inparticular because its making the ball drift a touch left making me miss the shot.

Yes I call this “chicken winging” many people have it, tough to fix; and harder still if it is well ingrained.

Ive also noticed the stick hits my stomach/side every now and then. I'm not a big person at all so I know it has to be stance.
Can anyone give any advice here??

Why would this have to be a stance problem? Sounds more like a stroke flaw to me. But a couple of people have taken some pics and put them up here, this might work for you to.

 

[JolietJames]

I had this same problem many years ago and didn't even know it, so consider yourself ahead of the game. I began taking lessons and the instructor caught it immediately. I remember him standing about an inch from my right arm while I was shooting. I eventually got tired of hitting the man and the crooked stroke went away.

 

[Scott Lee]

PGHteacher...Just FYI, a chicken wing does not necessarily indicate a problem. I have worked with players who have this issue, but when they deliver the cue, it is in a dead straight line (kind of like Darren Appleton). If the stroke isn't repeatable, THEN I'll suggest working on that issue. I try not to "fix" what's not broken.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Yes I call this “chicken winging” many people have it, tough to fix; and harder still if it is well ingrained.




Why would this have to be a stance problem? Sounds more like a stroke flaw to me. But a couple of people have taken some pics and put them up here, this might work for you to.

 

[PGHteacher]

PGHteacher...Just FYI, a chicken wing does not necessarily indicate a problem. I have worked with players who have this issue, but when they deliver the cue, it is in a dead straight line (kind of like Darren Appleton). If the stroke isn't repeatable, THEN I'll suggest working on that issue. I try not to "fix" what's not broken.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Thanks Scott, I have never had someone with that kind of form that has been consistent with a straight delivery; if I ever do I will take care not to “jump” on it. But seeing as I watch 2 hours of video of someone before I correct ANYTHING I don’t think I would.

Thanks for that reminder that anything that is repeatable can be made to work even a “chicken wing” but I think we have different definitions of “chicken wing”. I define it as not how someone holds the cue with their elbow out away from their body, but rather an inconsistent “jutting motion” in an otherwise elbow parallel to the cue from a front or back view.

 

[Zkid09]

I was not sure if it was Stance or what. That is why I had a question mark. It seems like it was definitely a stroke issue though.
I tried the stroking into a bottle trick and it seems to have helped me a lot. I'm not sure it's completely fixed, but on its way.
I have been bad about setting up for a shot (bridge placement and hand placement on the cue) differently almost every time without adjusting both at the same time. I set up around an 8" bridge and found where my hand placement should Be so that my arm would be 90 degrees at contact of ball. I put a small piece of tape there so I go back to the same spot every time and I know where my bridge should be.
Doing this and stayin consistent every shot helped me a ton last night.
I finished third in a small tournament. Almost Had 4 break and runs but missed one ball each time.
Also use to be bad about jacking the butt of my cue up. Keeping it low and following through is helping my ball control a ton. Will keep you guys updated on my progress!!

 

[Ratta]

PGHteacher...Just FYI, a chicken wing does not necessarily indicate a problem. I have worked with players who have this issue, but when they deliver the cue, it is in a dead straight line (kind of like Darren Appleton). If the stroke isn't repeatable, THEN I'll suggest working on that issue. I try not to "fix" what's not broken.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Amen Brother!!!
:thumbup:

 

[ENGLISH!]

Thanks Scott, I have never had someone with that kind of form that has been consistent with a straight delivery; if I ever do I will take care not to “jump” on it. But seeing as I watch 2 hours of video of someone before I correct ANYTHING I don’t think I would.

Thanks for that reminder that anything that is repeatable can be made to work even a “chicken wing” but I think we have different definitions of “chicken wing”. I define it as not how someone holds the cue with their elbow out away from their body, but rather an inconsistent “jutting motion” in an otherwise elbow parallel to the cue from a front or back view.

I'm glad you responded. I agree. Self agrandising & trying to make oneself 'appear smart' by trying to put others down is not good advertising. Negative ads may work in politics but shooting pool is not politics. If you're good let someone else say it & if you're really good they WILL say it.

 

[mattp]

1st of all, I am not an accredited instructor but I play one on T.V.
And this show is starting to look like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest.