Image of Pool, in Fact, was Created by a Con Artist

cjssecrets4u2 said:
Just trying to be of service....and yes, I can tell a lot from a video, and I really want you to play better and find enjoyment in pool and all things. :smile:
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I already very much enjoy playing pool. And when I run the occasional 100 I enjoy it even more. (My personal goal is to run 100 two days in a row so I can legitimately call myself a 100 ball runner :-) But, the thing I really find pleasure in is the journey itself up the mountain. I like tinkering with my mechanics, sometimes finding enlightenment and often discovering failure.

What I needed to discover, on my own, was the role my left arm needed to play, not my left foot. That is what has really improved my game the most in recent memory along with making subtle alterations and understanding why they're important. You say you can be of service yet what you recommend would actually hurt my game and send me down a poor path. Having taken lessons with Ray Martin and Dallas West, I can say that at least those two gentlemen had the good grace to observe me for an hour or two in person before offering any mechanical advice.

Like I said, I know you only had the best of intentions when you posted a link to the video ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Hungarian said:
Lou,

I'm not sure what you mean, I was talking referring to Chef Jeff and Duckie....pfffft. Everyone thinks the world revolves around them...
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That's why it's always a good idea to quote, at least portion, of which post you're commenting on. Your post came immediately on the heels of one of mine ergo it looked like you was talkin' to me.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
That's why it's always a good idea to quote, at least portion, of which post you're commenting on. Your post came immediately on the heels of one of mine ergo it looked like you was talkin' to me.

Lou Figueroa
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Calm down Lou, I was mind screwing you. I'm mind screwing the poop out of you right now...
 
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Hungarian said:
bite me Lou.

You get your jollies trying to humiliate other people with your genius.

I get my jollies being humble, having fun and joking around.
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lol. Well... thank God I don't have to burn up any brain cells in your case! You're doing a pretty good job of humiliating yourself all by your lonesome. No, no -- don't bother with another reply. You can now go play with the other Darwin Award Candidates on my Ignore list. Have a nice day.

Lou Figueroa
 
To quote another great poster here on the forum..."Putting someone on ignore is basically an admission that you don't want to hear anything out of your comfort zone - which in the end just hurts yourself".

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=146112

lfigueroa said:
lol. Well... thank God I don't have to burn up any brain cells in your case! You're doing a pretty good job of humiliating yourself all by your lonesome. No, no -- don't bother with another reply. You can now go play with the other Darwin Award Candidates on my Ignore list. Have a nice day.

Lou Figueroa
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Hungarian said:
To quote another great poster here on the forum..."Putting someone on ignore is basically an admission that you don't want to hear anything out of your comfort zone - which in the end just hurts yourself".

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=146112
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Not necessarily. If somebody just goes around seemingly wanting to piss others off, it isn't their fault for being potential victims. I have a handful of people on ignore because I don't think that their rare positive contributions outweight the fights that they look to pick for no reason whatsoever on an almost daily basis.

I kind of agree with Greyghost's summation in that thread.
 
Hungarian said:
To quote another great poster here on the forum..."Putting someone on ignore is basically an admission that you don't want to hear anything out of your comfort zone - which in the end just hurts yourself". ...
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OK; I had to chase that down. Credit that to UGOTDA7, 3/3/2010.
 
"Begin With the END in Mind" ....Steven Covey

lfigueroa said:
I already very much enjoy playing pool. And when I run the occasional 100 I enjoy it even more. (My personal goal is to run 100 two days in a row so I can legitimately call myself a 100 ball runner :-) But, the thing I really find pleasure in is the journey itself up the mountain. I like tinkering with my mechanics, sometimes finding enlightenment and often discovering failure.

What I needed to discover, on my own, was the role my left arm needed to play, not my left foot. That is what has really improved my game the most in recent memory along with making subtle alterations and understanding why they're important. You say you can be of service yet what you recommend would actually hurt my game and send me down a poor path. Having taken lessons with Ray Martin and Dallas West, I can say that at least those two gentlemen had the good grace to observe me for an hour or two in person before offering any mechanical advice.

Like I said, I know you only had the best of intentions when you posted a link to the video ;-)

Lou Figueroa
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Yes, my understanding of how the body is positioned and synchronized is from my extensive martial arts background.....like anything else a person can only recognize what they're familiar with and I've spent thousands of hours with high level black-belt instructors. I've gave them mentions in several national magazine articles (click Logo to find these articles) for giving me the tools to take pocket billiards to a much higher level than I could have otherwise.

So just one suggestion. "Begin with the end in mind" ....a quote from Steven Covey applies to yourself....pre-set your upper body positions and angles EXACTLY how they will be as you get down on the ball FIRST...that means your shoulder/arm/wrist/cue angles DO NOT CHANGE as you get down on the ball....if you need to feel what that should be EXACTLY, then get down very comfortably, then get back up WITHOUT changing any of your upper body positions/angles....simply just raise up from your waist to feel the position you should start down in. You will be running 100's within 3 weeks if you practice this and "make it yours". BeginWithTheEndInMind

 
.pocket billiards and most games and sports and even LIFE is about momentum

Hungarian said:
To quote another great poster here on the forum..."Putting someone on ignore is basically an admission that you don't want to hear anything out of your comfort zone - which in the end just hurts yourself".

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=146112
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I would suggest you stop trying to make it complicated and concentrate on what's important - MOMENTUM....pocket billiards and most games and sports and even LIFE is about momentum. It's not like just trading punches in boxing, it's about FLURRIES....and these flurries in pool are either flurries of balls being pocketed or racks being run depending on your skill level RIGHT NOW......Focus on that and just keep telling yourself calmly "Play Well"....and think about WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO to "play well"..does this mean practicing certain shots? Getting in better shape? Staying more positive and looking for the "good things in life"? ......You decide and make it simple.....the secret is always in the simplicity of life.
 
cjssecrets4u2 said:


So just one suggestion. "Begin with the end in mind" ....a quote from Steven Covey applies to yourself....pre-set your upper body positions and angles EXACTLY how they will be as you get down on the ball FIRST...that means your shoulder/arm/wrist/cue angles DO NOT CHANGE as you get down on the ball....if you need to feel what that should be EXACTLY, then get down very comfortably, then get back up WITHOUT changing any of your upper body positions/angles....simply just raise up from your waist to feel the position you should start down in. You will be running 100's within 3 weeks if you practice this and "make it yours". BeginWithTheEndInMind
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OK, that makes sense and is harmonious with what I have learned on my own, though you've expressed it in a different way. I will play with that. Thank you for the tip.

The part about "running 100's with 3 weeks" I think is an over the top stretch. There are so many things one needs to know to do that -- everything from proper shot selection; patterns; speed and spin selection and control; eye-work; and bridging techniques that I think you're are being overly "optimistic." I feel like I have a handle on much of that, but still, running 100's is kind of the black belt level of our sport. I don't think I'm there yet.

Lou Figueroa
 
.for now find your center, picture the shot, let it happen...Be the Ball

lfigueroa said:
OK, that makes sense and is harmonious with what I have learned on my own, though you've expressed it in a different way. I will play with that. Thank you for the tip.

The part about "running 100's with 3 weeks" I think is an over the top stretch. There are so many things one needs to know to do that -- everything from proper shot selection; patterns; speed and spin selection and control; eye-work; and bridging techniques that I think you're are being overly "optimistic." I feel like I have a handle on much of that, but still, running 100's is kind of the black belt level of our sport. I don't think I'm there yet.

Lou Figueroa
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That's ok, no pressure, we have plenty of time.....for now find your center, picture the shot, let it happen, and Be the Ball.
 
Thanks Master but I'm confused. Originally, you started this thread as "Image of Pool, in Fact, was Created by a Con Artist". Now you are quoting Steven Covey and providing pool and life lessons. And for that matter it seems that all of the threads you participate in head down the same direction. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them and have truly learned 3 or 4 key things reading your recent postings that have really helped my game and for that I thank you. 1.) left foot angle, 2.) 1 over and 2 down drill, 3.) spot shot drill and 4.) body position getting down. Then comes Lou and he disrespected you in a pompous kind of way. I pointed that out to him and now you are correcting me.

Help me to understand Master...


I also have a quote for you Master and it's Dale Carnegie Principal #12:
"If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically".​

cjssecrets4u2 said:
I would suggest you stop trying to make it complicated and concentrate on what's important - MOMENTUM....pocket billiards and most games and sports and even LIFE is about momentum. It's not like just trading punches in boxing, it's about FLURRIES....and these flurries in pool are either flurries of balls being pocketed or racks being run depending on your skill level RIGHT NOW......Focus on that and just keep telling yourself calmly "Play Well"....and think about WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO to "play well"..does this mean practicing certain shots? Getting in better shape? Staying more positive and looking for the "good things in life"? ......You decide and make it simple.....the secret is always in the simplicity of life.
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Quote from post 111, CJ:

Lightbulb You're only as old as you act...."get off my lawn CJ" LoL - 09-19-2012, 12:48 PM
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Hilarious LOL
 
you will be able to be a "pool playing machine"

Hungarian said:
Thanks Master but I'm confused. Originally, you started this thread as "Image of Pool, in Fact, was Created by a Con Artist". Now you are quoting Steven Covey and providing pool and life lessons. And for that matter it seems that all of the threads you participate in head down the same direction. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them and have truly learned 3 or 4 key things reading your recent postings that have really helped my game and for that I thank you. 1.) left foot angle, 2.) 1 over and 2 down drill, 3.) spot shot drill and 4.) body position getting down. Then comes Lou and he disrespected you in a pompous kind of way. I pointed that out to him and now you are correcting me.

Help me to understand Master...


I also have a quote for you Master and it's Dale Carnegie Principal #12:
"If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically".​
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The body position getting down is described as "begin with the end in mind" (a Steven Covey quote) because you want to start out above the ball with your body parts in the same relative position as they will be in when you get down and shoot. Many people especially change their left arm angle too much and don't pre set their arm/wrist/shoulder angles properly, this means you have to create them on the way down or after you get down on the shot. This is infinitely more difficult to do in a consistent way....thus, if you start above the ball in the position you will be in while hitting the cue ball (or as close as YOU can get), you will be able to be a "pool playing machine" and that's just a figure of speech for those that want challenge me and say "a man can't become a machine" ..:wink:. however, it's a good thing to strive for and in the process take out any "moving parts" that you can't repeat.
 
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