Does the wrist effect the fingers ability to produce speed in the pool stroke?
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Does the wrist effect the fingers ability to produce speed in the pool stroke?
How well do you play tennis and golf? The wrist is an essential connection between the forearm and the fingers. The golf and tennis stroke isn't an extention of the arms, the wrists cock, the arms raise and the shoulder turn, everyone that plays knows that.
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Slash, most of what you've pointed out in this thread has been spot on IMHO, but I heartily disagree with the notion that the wrist can't provide much acceleration to the stroke.
In most throwing activities it is the quickness with which the wrist can move through over 90° of arc that provides a lot of acceleration providing the timing of it's motion is correct. Long travel is not needed if superior speed in the joint's movement can provide a burst of acceleration.
I don't think that's relevant, but I've played tennis competitively and golf not at all. How about you?
More importantly, between the forearm and whatever you're swinging.
As I said, the racquet and club are extensions of the arms. How fast do you think a tennis or golf ball would go if the racquet or club was only a few inches long?
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Only in so much as it's difficult to have a tight grip and a loose wrist or vice versa.
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Well I guess your private message offer of your hand was not sincere & certainly did not work because I did not fall for it.
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Try hitting the cue ball with just your wrist - no forearm movement at all. Whatever speed you can get on the cue ball that way is the amount that can be added with wrist movement (minus something for accuracy).
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The wrist when applied properly will add energy
The wrist when applied properly will add energy especially if it's positioned properly to begin with (which many players don't do). This is something I learned from Hank Haney and his teaching techniques in golf.
The wrist when applied properly will add energy especially if it's positioned properly to begin with (which many players don't do). This is something I learned from Hank Haney and his teaching techniques in golf.
The issue is a tense wrist creates tension in the whole arm and that will slow it down and reduce accuracy.
Are you trying to say that the wrists don't apply acceleration to the golf club, tennis raquet or pool cue?
How is accuracy and wrist tension connected? Many players use a very firm grip and generate tremendous power and accuracy.
Tense wrist = tense grip and you will pull the cue off line.
How far do you thing you could hit a golf ball with no wrist motion?
No, I'm saying the wrists add a limited amount of speed. The vast majority of the added speed in tennis and golf is created by the racquet and club moving through a much larger arc than the arms can, dramatically magnifying the wrist's speed. The pool cue doesn't "extend" the arm's arc in the same way, so the wrist's small amount of added speed isn't magnified.
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Slasher,
That depends on the type of stroke, I'm sure CJ will elaborate. It's all about having all the components complimenting the other components. They need to be in harmony & not applying counter productive forces.
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So a tense grip has a "pulling" effect on the cue? How does this happen?
Much farther than you could hit it with plenty of wrist motion and a 4-inch club. It's the club's length that magnifies the wrist's speed and power.
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So the wrist magnifies speed and power. That's correct.
The grip point if unimpeded will smooth out the imperfections induced by the fingers, wrist, forearm, upper arm and shoulder and allow the cue to travel through in a straight line.