Question for players who use both closed and open bridge

alstl

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I was watching this video http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/26974315 of Efren and he was using an open bridge more than I remember from watching him previously and it got me to thinking.

If you alternate back and forth when do you decide to use an open or a closed bridge?
 
I think I've been leaning more towards the closed bridge lately, but to answer your question.. definitely closed bridge on shots where I'm going for more english.
 
I'm on automatic pilot. It's not really a conscious decision for me. It's more like whatever feels the most comfortable for the shot at hand. I know I should probably be more consistent, but it's way down on the list of things I need to be more consistent about, lol.
 
whichever feels stable enough for the shot. almost always closed for draw though.
 
I use a closed bridge for most shots, when I have to shoot from the rail or over balls I use an open bridge.
 
I'll use the open as much as possible because it allows me better sighting without my bridge fingers interupting the view.
 
I think that over the last twenty years there has been a shift towards the open bridge even among American and Pinoy players (the European players, with their snooker backgrounds, have been utilizing the open bridge extensively from the beginning). In situations that don't call for a huge amount of power or spin, a good open bridge is more than secure enough (if the player's stroke is solid), and it allows an unimpeded sight line.

As to how one decides which bridge to use, the greatest factor will be whether the shot requires a significant amount of force and spin, in which case most players will opt for the closed bridge. As one's stroke develops, however, one finds that even draw strokes and other power strokes can be executed comfortably with an open bridge. Thus, a pool player's selection of bridges, as he moves from beginner to intermediate to accomplished player, often follows a path similar to that of a martial artist, whose belt passes from white to black and back to white. The beginner will use the open bridge wherever possible, the intermediate and somewhat advanced players tend to use the closed bridge wherever possible, and as they move toward expert status they begin to gravitate back to increased use of the open bridge.

The more you play and develop in the game, the more the decision of which bridge to use will become an unconscious one. You'll just automatically make the bridge that is required and that feels right.
 
If I am on I tend to use a closed bridge, but if I am feeling a little out of line I use my open bridge. I should probably just use an open bridge all of the time because I shoot better, but I like the feel of a closed bridge, and when I am really on it doesn't matter, so I go with what feels right.
 
I'm on automatic pilot. It's not really a conscious decision for me. It's more like whatever feels the most comfortable for the shot at hand. I know I should probably be more consistent, but it's way down on the list of things I need to be more consistent about, lol.

Same for me. I don't really think about it.:confused:
 
I'll use the open as much as possible because it allows me better sighting without my bridge fingers interupting the view.

Me too.....but closed for some shots...not really a conscious decision...just what feels best for the shot at hand.
 
I think that over the last twenty years there has been a shift towards the open bridge even among American and Pinoy players (the European players, with their snooker backgrounds, have been utilizing the open bridge extensively from the beginning). In situations that don't call for a huge amount of power or spin, a good open bridge is more than secure enough (if the player's stroke is solid), and it allows an unimpeded sight line.

As to how one decides which bridge to use, the greatest factor will be whether the shot requires a significant amount of force and spin, in which case most players will opt for the closed bridge. As one's stroke develops, however, one finds that even draw strokes and other power strokes can be executed comfortably with an open bridge. Thus, a pool player's selection of bridges, as he moves from beginner to intermediate to accomplished player, often follows a path similar to that of a martial artist, whose belt passes from white to black and back to white. The beginner will use the open bridge wherever possible, the intermediate and somewhat advanced players tend to use the closed bridge wherever possible, and as they move toward expert status they begin to gravitate back to increased use of the open bridge.

The more you play and develop in the game, the more the decision of which bridge to use will become an unconscious one. You'll just automatically make the bridge that is required and that feels right.
I second this, except I don't think you have to be very advanced to use an open bridge for any kind of shot. I only use a closed bridge when there isn't room for an open one. I like the open bridge for a better aiming view of the shaft.

pj
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Closed for low contact on CB. High for almost all high contact on CB, with the exception of 'hard' strokes, then closed. On the rail I prefer to set the cue stick on the rail & 'lock' in position with my index & middle finger, sometimes with my thumb along side, or open, sometimes closed.

Hope this helps. Good Luck,
 
The beginner will use the open bridge wherever possible, the intermediate and somewhat advanced players tend to use the closed bridge wherever possible, and as they move toward expert status they begin to gravitate back to increased use of the open bridge.

^^^ This.

Here's what I've said on the subject a few times:

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Here's my standard answer. It's been modified over the years, but it revolves around the same theme:


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I'm open-hand heavy. But, I think that's because the top professionals that I saw most growing up (Rempe and Sigel) were open-hand heavy.

The progression goes something like this:

Can't make a bridge to save my life
Make an awkward open bridge
Make an awkward closed bridge
Make a good closed bridge
Re-incorporate a good open bridge
Use the open bridge a lot

Often times, a properly formed and used open hand bridge incorporated or re-incorporated into the overall American pool game can be a sign of advancement, as opposed to only thought of as a beginner's bridge.
Those who only think of an open hand bridge as a beginner's bridge are missing something.

Most if not all top players use both open and closed. There really is no steadfast reason to use one over the other for most normal shots. You'll see more people close it for power and power spin shots, while they open up for finesse and stretched out reach shots.

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Freddie <~~~ whatever feels right
 
Both, generally closed for long shots, or if there is something blocking a open bridge or if I'm jacked up on the rail. Open for everything else, draw, top, english, off the rail.

I've read countless books and watched DVDs and videos etc that advise a closed bridge for draw...I just can't dow it. I can't get my bridge down low enough for it to feel comfortable.
 
I flip all the time between the two. Usually the more heavy english I use I lean towards the closed. Otherwise its a comfort thing for me. I've learned to use both fairly effective which does come in handy when a closed bridge is an impossibility.
 
For some reason, I make more balls with the open bridge than the closed so I have tended to use open more recently. I like the look of the closed though.
 
I think that over the last twenty years there has been a shift towards the open bridge even among American and Pinoy players (the European players, with their snooker backgrounds, have been utilizing the open bridge extensively from the beginning). In situations that don't call for a huge amount of power or spin, a good open bridge is more than secure enough (if the player's stroke is solid), and it allows an unimpeded sight line.

As to how one decides which bridge to use, the greatest factor will be whether the shot requires a significant amount of force and spin, in which case most players will opt for the closed bridge. As one's stroke develops, however, one finds that even draw strokes and other power strokes can be executed comfortably with an open bridge. Thus, a pool player's selection of bridges, as he moves from beginner to intermediate to accomplished player, often follows a path similar to that of a martial artist, whose belt passes from white to black and back to white. The beginner will use the open bridge wherever possible, the intermediate and somewhat advanced players tend to use the closed bridge wherever possible, and as they move toward expert status they begin to gravitate back to increased use of the open bridge.

The more you play and develop in the game, the more the decision of which bridge to use will become an unconscious one. You'll just automatically make the bridge that is required and that feels right.

I agree with the meat of this post. Essentially, that very last paragraph nails it -- at high levels of play, the choice of bridge tends to (and *should*) be an unconscious decision.

However the bolded part is not always true. Many of the top pros shoot almost exclusively with a closed bridge -- e.g. Dennis Hatch, Mika Immonen, and in times past, e.g. Mike Sigel, Steve Mizerak (Steve also used the closed bridge when he played his challenge matches on the snooker table against Steve Davis).

Some cite the unobstructed sight line as the reason why they prefer the open bridge. For others, the mind's natural ability to unconsciously "stitch" images together makes the overlapping finger of the closed bridge completely disappear from view, making the unobstructed sight line a moot issue.

In any case, the choice of bridge should almost always be a subconscious decision. You shouldn't be focusing on your bridge anyway -- you have that shot in front of you that you *should* be directing your attention to.

I find that when I'm "lazily" practicing -- i.e. slamming balls home into the pockets, to loosen my arm -- I tend to use the open bridge *a lot*. It's more a laziness issue -- I'm more interested in the sensations I'm getting in my cue delivery arm (e.g. making sure the cue delivery is straight), than in my bridge. So I tend to slap my hand down on the table like a frozen burger patty, and in the same motion as bringing the cue down on top of it, pinch the thumb against the index knuckle to form the "V" channel that the cue rides on. It's just a "quickness" thing.

But in competition or matches that matter, I'll buckle down more, and use the closed bridge a lot more often.

It's funny, I don't notice it, until someone points it out to me, and asks me "why do you use the open bridge during practice, but then close it when the match begins?" :shrug:

-Sean
 
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