Beware JayTS!

Jason Sheerman, You're Guilty of Internet Fraud!

Mr Sheerman,

I believe your reply to the OP's post explains it all. You set up a deal for somebody using two of your accounts, AZBilliards.com, and Paypal.com. Your Paypal account drew funds from a fellow AZ user's account, and that person did not receive the merchandise that was advertised on this website. Both of your accounts are internet related.

You don't seem to understand that it is your obligation to reimburse the buyer for the $600.00, or you could be sued for "internet fraud."

Your response, one of "self-imposed immunity" from all responsibility, shows someone that is somewhat delirious, and unaware of common "Law of Ethics." I feel your statements involving this matter will also serve to incriminate you.

Moreover, I truly wish that the injured party follows through with some type of criminal action.

Your whole story is nothing but bull$**t! Anyone who has read this post would agree.

Perhaps you will call a lawyer to get immediate advice?

Perhaps we should start a poll here on AZ Billiards: Is Jason Sheerman Guilty of Being an Accomplice To Internet Fraud?

Here is a link that might help your realize the severity of what is, indeed, federal crime. Investigated by the FBI. One that could have Bubba as your new best friend behind bars. Do you really want to take this chance?:

http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud/internet_fraud

And for the OP, here is some information on how to report this crime:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

I agree with a previous poster's comments, that an AZ moderator should revoke your account here, if you refuse to issue a Paypal reimbursement.

In closing, perhaps a petition should be set up here. I'll be one of the first to sign it.

Concerned,

Glen (strum4u)
 
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Maybe the buyer can confirm whose name was on the paypal acct he sent the gift to....and fwiw, if that doesn't match whom you are supposed to be doing biz with, hUGe red flag !!
 
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JayTS said:
My home computer does not ask me for my own passwords. Thank you for trying to play detective but I don't need a story. It's the truth I don't need to lie to people I don't know or care about. Again I appreciate everyone's concern about myself getting robbed and my name slandered over something I had nothing to do with. Good luck to the buyer and good luck to me on finding him and getting money. I hear he will be at Turning Stone this week with Accu-Stats if anyone is going there they can play internet police in person and see for them selves.
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Where is the police report for this $600 robbery?
If I actually believed your cacamayme story I would be concerned about this $600 robbery, but I don't believe you, so I'm not concerned.
What I am concerned about is your ability to make this deal right, so you can continue to do business on AZ Billiards.

JayTS said:
Well, kind of as he stated the cue was not mine and the deal was not mine. I was just a third party transaction that is not to be held liable. I did not post the for sale thread and the "seller" in question did while I was at work. His full name is Dave "Dakota" King from Trenton, OH. Feel free to troll his Facebook or friend request him because you can see the same pictures of the cue right on his facebook page. He used my computer to log into my paypal and azbilliards account to make this transaction and I had no control over it. He robbed me out of $600 cash I had at my house and this cue deal is just icing on the cake. I have made numerous flawless deals on this website for high dollar items and will continue to do so. I don't scam people because trust me it's not how I do business. I don't care what everyone thinks on here and people can continue to call my phone and i'll contact the authorities for harassment. For all the as titled, "trollers" on this website that want to PM and e-mail their opinions of a situation they don't know about shows what type of people they are. I welcome the guy that said he would take a road trip down here to visit me, along with anyone else. Otherwise I hope we both get our money back from this thief. Thanks for understanding. -Jason



EDIT: Also this same thief robbed Shannon Daulton out of money and quite a few others from the NC/SC area. He is currently employed by Inside Pool Magazine and is entertaining a job offer from Accu-Stats. Feel free to contact those companies for reference.
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Your story sounds ridiculous with the password thing and all, but there is still time to do the right thing.
You will have to make this deal right if you plan on doing any more business on AZ.
 
My computer does not ask me for user name and password for AZB so yes anyone could post something in my name here. PayPal does store my username but not my password so he would have to have been given that information. Dave
 
JayTS said:
Again I appreciate everyone's concern about myself getting robbed and my name slandered over something I had nothing to do with.
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Nothing to do with ...except for the ad being posted from your forum account and from your computer with the funds going to your bank account. Oh yes, nothing to do with indeed...
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I read all of this,,,and I don't believe the story of someone else accessing these accounts without the owner knowing. Isn't there a third account involved in this too? A bank account??

How does PP work? the money gets sent there,,,and then goes to a bank account that has been set up previously set up?? Or are they the same??? Either way,,,you are saying some breached your bank account without your knowing.
Sounds like BS to me. It just doesn't happen,,,and I didn't hear about any other monies missing form this account. If someone is going to steal from it. Why stop at just this one sale. Or maybe this third party didn't want to take "your" money. LMAO

Oh,,hold on,,he sold something to get money into this account. Without owner of accounts knowing??????????

Can you see how hard this is to believe?????? It's not just a misdemeanor ,,,,,,or a parking ticket. It's a Felony,,,,,,federal laws have been broken.

You had better come up with $600 and get this taken care of before it cost you some time and $1000's. The buyer,, waiting to turn you in,,,is doing you a favor.

I believe both were in on it,,(sellers). But it doesn't matter if you blame each of other. The law will take you both.

And even if not,,,your accounts were used,,,,,wake up!!!! Before it's too late!!!!
 
davidhop said:
The name was Jason Sheerman.
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This has got to be the most intriguing scam ever done on AZ.

Hope the OP gets his dough back and pursues this with the proper authorities and gets some satisfaction. I know I would never let this go.

Really pathetic here, guys.
 
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waylander said:
I'm sorry but this is a little hard to believe. Neither paypal nor any bank system have a "remember me" option and are specifically designed so that browsers don't ask whether you want your password saved.
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Believe it or not, some people have their computers set up to save all their passwords etc. Yes, this even works for bank sites.


It is entirely plausible that everything happened EXACTLY the way that he has said. IMHO the point is it really does not matter.

Why argue about whether or not his story is true? It's just fine to assume it is all exactly as he says, it does not relieve him of the responsibility to resolve it.



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waylander said:
I'm not completely up to date and may be wrong but since paypal could be considered a "wire service" used to transfer funds across state lines, would this not be considered mail fraud under federal law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_and_wire_fraud
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cuesblues said:
I would contact somebody who understands Paypal in these situations like Kevin Brewer.
There may be some way to recover the "gift" funds.
This really blows, JayTS should chime in and explain his situation, there is still time to work this out in a responsible fashion.
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ridewiththewind said:
Start at your bank...some will do a charge-back of the funds to your account...but only after you provide them with a copy of a police report.
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nope, nope, and nope. Its not fraud because it was sent as a gift. If anyone will get in trouble for fraud, it will be davidhop for declaring a purchase transaction as a gift.... That wouldn't be a criminal charge, but it will likely cause him to lose access to paypal, possibly permanently. This sort of relates to the whole bit of a woman keeping an engagement ring after you break up with her. Sure you gave her the gift as part of an expected return of her hand in marriage, but it still was a gift in the eyes of the law. If there is good documentation of JayTS purposefully telling you to send it as a gift instead it might be possible to do something from the law standpoint, but as I mentioned it will likely have you lose paypal at least on that account/email address/bank account.

That doesn't absolve JayTS from making it right. His lame defense of "it wasn't me" doesn't fly, this is no different than his friend setting up a newspaper ad with his phone number, and having someone wire the funds to his bank account and him letting his friend have his checkbook. To all intents + purposes it was JayTS who conducted the transaction and is responsible for it.
 
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I know both of these guys from south florida. Jason Sheerman is an honest guy is not the type to fek over anyone but I too have heard some unsavory things about King. I can tell you is that I know this guy JayTS personally and and if he is telling you this is the way it happened, its the truth.

This looks like a bad situation where Jason is left holding the bag of crap that King left for him as a thank you for jason letting him stay at his house while a tournament in the area was going down.

What remains of course is what will happen next.
 
Chopdoc said:
Believe it or not, some people have their computers set up to save all their passwords etc. Yes, this even works for bank sites.


It is entirely plausible that everything happened EXACTLY the way that he has said. IMHO the point is it really does not matter.

Why argue about whether or not his story is true? It's just fine to assume it is all exactly as he says, it does not relieve him of the responsibility to resolve it.



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Most browsers do NOT ask you if you want your password saved on secure websites (unless you're using a really crappy or old version). Easy way to check is to clear your cache and try to login for the first time, the browser will ask if you want to save your password for unsecured websites but not for banking websites (if the banking website is secure at all anyway). While it is possible to manually force the browser to save the password, most people are not computer savvy enough to do it.

That said, it is technically feasible but pretty dumb, especially when you have a room mate. But, as has already been pointed out, the ONLY way to get the money from JayTS's paypal account to Dave Kings account was for him to send a payment from Jay's account to Daves account (at this point if this is what happened I doubt Dave would use a cut out), so it should be easy to prove this is what happened even if you can't prove who actually did the transferring.
 
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Chopdoc said:
Believe it or not, some people have their computers set up to save all their passwords etc. Yes, this even works for bank sites.


It is entirely plausible that everything happened EXACTLY the way that he has said. IMHO the point is it really does not matter.

Why argue about whether or not his story is true? It's just fine to assume it is all exactly as he says, it does not relieve him of the responsibility to resolve it.



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You can set this up with some browsers and also some 3rd party software, but I think banks and other secure sites have code on their side to prevent the web browser from asking you if you want to save the password. Horrible idea to save ANY passwords, you would not belive how many computers have viruses that send passwords back to someone and people don't do anything about it because it just looks like the computer is a "bit slow". I post on a major tech forum at www.tomshardware.com (also hang-the-9 there) and people have no idea about securing their information, the post their phone number and address on the internet where anyone can get it, some post their account names and passwords, they don't know or care that there are 20 Nigerians using their names and SS numbers to order up credit cards, they only know that the computer is too slow when on Facebook.
 
still even if it saved his password, the money entered JayTS's account by Jay's own admission. You can't set up a new bank withdrawal account in paypal immediately, and the deposit to a bank account that is established takes 3 days anyway. There was time in there where Jay would have received emails, etc about the transaction, had unread subscribed threads.

Moreso though, if the guy was going to pull a scam, why stop at a single $600 cue listing for a cue he actually had? would have been easy enough for him to list 3 or 4, and just grab pics off the web.
 
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You can set this up with some browsers and also some 3rd party software, but I think banks and other secure sites have code on their side to prevent the web browser from asking you if you want to save the password. Horrible idea to save ANY passwords, you would not belive how many computers have viruses that send passwords back to someone and people don't do anything about it because it just looks like the computer is a "bit slow". I post on a major tech forum at www.tomshardware.com (also hang-the-9 there) and people have no idea about securing their information, the post their phone number and address on the internet where anyone can get it, some post their account names and passwords, they don't know or care that there are 20 Nigerians using their names and SS numbers to order up credit cards, they only know that the computer is too slow when on Facebook.
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fwiw, I have a program on my work computer called Identity Safe made by Norton.
This allows me to login to paypal, bank accounts and pretty much whatever without using a password.

Off course there is a "master" password for the Identity Safe program but once
I entered that the program works for a few hours and this scenario could in theory happen.

I use this program because I have to login to quite a few websites and such where
I did not set the password myself and it is the easiest way that is still relatively safe to keep track.

gr. Dave
 
uwate said:
I know both of these guys from south florida. Jason Sheerman is an honest guy is not the type to fek over anyone but I too have heard some unsavory things about King. I can tell you is that I know this guy JayTS personally and and if he is telling you this is the way it happened, its the truth.

This looks like a bad situation where Jason is left holding the bag of crap that King left for him as a thank you for jason letting him stay at his house while a tournament in the area was going down.

What remains of course is what will happen next.
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Jason needs to get it together and realize that as wrong as it was for King to rip him off, it's equally wrong for Jason to not live up to his deal with David.

Also the story doesn't add up. I believe he was ripped off but not by a computer hacking. King simply took the cash and didn't deliver the cue.
 
JayTS said:
Well, kind of as he stated the cue was not mine and the deal was not mine. I was just a third party transaction that is not to be held liable. I did not post the for sale thread and the "seller" in question did while I was at work. His full name is Dave "Dakota" King from Trenton, OH. Feel free to troll his Facebook or friend request him because you can see the same pictures of the cue right on his facebook page. He used my computer to log into my paypal and azbilliards account to make this transaction and I had no control over it. He robbed me out of $600 cash I had at my house and this cue deal is just icing on the cake. I have made numerous flawless deals on this website for high dollar items and will continue to do so. I don't scam people because trust me it's not how I do business. I don't care what everyone thinks on here and people can continue to call my phone and i'll contact the authorities for harassment. For all the as titled, "trollers" on this website that want to PM and e-mail their opinions of a situation they don't know about shows what type of people they are. I welcome the guy that said he would take a road trip down here to visit me, along with anyone else. Otherwise I hope we both get our money back from this thief. Thanks for understanding. -Jason



EDIT: Also this same thief robbed Shannon Daulton out of money and quite a few others from the NC/SC area. He is currently employed by Inside Pool Magazine and is entertaining a job offer from Accu-Stats. Feel free to contact those companies for reference.
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Regardless if this crazy story is true or not your PC and AZ account posted the item for sale. The responsibility to fix this is on you. You can go after the guy that used your PC but the TC needs to be sent his cue or a full refund of the money.
 
And if JayTS was as clear of all responsibility as he claims, why does he instantly block anyone trying to contact him?
 
Good on you for taking care of your part of the issue.

Now, good luck on you getting your part back.
 
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