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maxeypad2007

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If you are solids (aka on the 8) what do you do here? Imagine this is a 7' diamond bar table also with fast cloth if it makes any difference?

I'm curious if my shot was the right one and would love to hear from others here. It worked out in the end but I had a lot of people disagreeing with my approach.

APA 8-ball rules also.
 
I would make the 3 then the 1, then play safe behind the 2 while gently bumping it off the rail. I do leave home the ability I touch the 8 though so he will break it out. If he purposely fouls, I lock him up behind the 2 twice more for the win
 
Being solids is definitely NOT "aka on the 8". Stripes is on the 8. If I were on the 8, I guess I would shoot the cue ball up table, thinning the 6 and separating it from the 8. Hopefully the 8 gets a few inches closer to the hole but still blocks the 6 from going.

Give him BIH and see what he can do. I've lost in easier situations...
 
I ended up shooting this.

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Making the 3 and trying to make the one as well (ended up making both but that is low percentage to make both balls). Because the 8-ball was pointed up and so close to the hole it would be hard even with BIH against a good player to move the 8 out, get a rail and prevent them from making the 8. The slightest touch would move the 8 in front of the pocket for a very makeable kick. The angle on the 8 here is slightly different than what I actually ended up with (it was tough to touch the 6 at all and not put the 8 in front of the hole.

I played to win basically over the course of two innings by taking out any possible breaker and forcing us to both basically play for one ball. Wrong shot?
 
maxeypad2007 said:
I ended up shooting this.

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Making the 3 and trying to make the one as well (ended up making both but that is low percentage to make both balls). Because the 8-ball was pointed up and so close to the hole it would be hard even with BIH against a good player to move the 8 out, get a rail and prevent them from making the 8. The slightest touch would move the 8 in front of the pocket for a very makeable kick. The angle on the 8 here is slightly different than what I actually ended up with (it was tough to touch the 6 at all and not put the 8 in front of the hole.

I played to win basically over the course of two innings by taking out any possible breaker and forcing us to both basically play for one ball. Wrong shot?
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I guess it depends on your opponents skill level. Getting rid of balls that allow him to break out the 8 would be a solid move against a certain type of player.

What happens when he takes BIH, makes two balls, then plays safe? It might be good to just kick three rails and try to run into the back side of the 8 gently.
 
I think I'd knock the 3 in and let my opponent make the move. That takes away a break out shot playing off the 3. If you play off the 6 and it knocks the 8 too far out to where the 6 will go in the corner, game over.
 
If you did that to me, I would take bih and put the two near the corner pocket and make you shoot at the 8.
 
maxeypad2007 said:
I ended up shooting this.

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Making the 3 and trying to make the one as well (ended up making both but that is low percentage to make both balls). Because the 8-ball was pointed up and so close to the hole it would be hard even with BIH against a good player to move the 8 out, get a rail and prevent them from making the 8. The slightest touch would move the 8 in front of the pocket for a very makeable kick. The angle on the 8 here is slightly different than what I actually ended up with (it was tough to touch the 6 at all and not put the 8 in front of the hole.

I played to win basically over the course of two innings by taking out any possible breaker and forcing us to both basically play for one ball. Wrong shot?
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You did the same thing I was thinking of, but it still should have been a loss for you. Your opponent missed the obvious thing to do. That is, move the 2 up table to where he could easily make it and break out the 6-8. He could do that all day or until they called a stalemate on the game.

edit: I see now that victorl said the same thing just above my post.
 
If I had a shot on the two at that point I would have shot it in as well forcing the other player to have only one ball.

Statistically in that situation I'm not the favorite it just turned out that way in this instance. The point is what is the best shot or series of responses to a crappy situation.

Thanks for the awesome feedback this was a great exercise.
 
nobcitypool said:
I think I'd knock the 3 in and let my opponent make the move. That takes away a break out shot playing off the 3. If you play off the 6 and it knocks the 8 too far out to where the 6 will go in the corner, game over.
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EDIT: I see you're now the 8...nevermind.

Yep.

Give your opponent just enough rope to hang himself.

If he gets a good hit on the 8, there are the 2 and 1 as safety valves. He might just open them up enough for solids to run out.

I wouldn't ever touch the 2 or 1 ('cept for hiding behind) until the 6/8 was open.

My rule of thumb is to let my opponent open up the trouble balls.

Jeff Livingston
 
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Been here a few times...never a good feeling for sure..
I could knock the three in , but like the other poster said ; they'd
shoot the two up table while laying it up for a combo..I think
this will happqen no matter what.
I would shot down table at around .o6/7 using right top..
about a full tip..med stroke..for me that is..this will bring
the cb up table on the long rail past the side pocket in to
the rail at the middle diamond..letting you hit the eight.
if you had your speed right..you'll just nudge the eight into
the six cue ball come back out just a little..the eight isn't moving
much , should still be almost where it was..no real movent.
now..the other guy is going to make a ball or stick you again
an it starts all over again..just my guess..you could get lucky
an force him to play the two some where..but I doubt it.
 
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