Your diagram is correct except for the sweep! A right sweep is right to left or inside! A left sweep would be left to right or outside on this particular shot!
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Your diagram is correct except for the sweep! A right sweep is right to left or inside! A left sweep would be left to right or outside on this particular shot!
Trying to get infinite cut angles from a finite set of alignments! If the cut angle for the new shot differs any at all from the previous shot then the angle between the CTEL and the CB-GB line also changes. This would be true even if the new shot uses the same secondary alignment lines on the cue ball and object ball as did the preceding shot. The player will move during this process and the new CTEL and secondary alignment lines are not at the old angle to the OB-pocket line, even though the alignment lines are at the same points on the object ball! Think of it as shooting at a water tower, if you aim at the edge of a water tower and shoot you hit the edge, if you move a foot to the right, that shot you took is no longer on the edge of the water tower, so you have a new edge!!
Not even close....................
No........It does not!!!!!!!!!!
Right to left pivot!!!!
Cte-Pro One is based on visual consistency and uses this repetitive information, by experience to set up in the proper position! Let your body set up to what your eyes see! Visual intelligence is what its all about! When your eyes are lined up, you will line up physically better to the shot!
Eyes move to the right for a right visual sweep in Pro One.
8 Pack - do you own the DVD?
8 Pack - do you own the DVD?
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In case anyone is wondering Anthony is himself an accomplished player who uses some form of pivot aiming but he is kind of mysterious about it. Don't treat him like an anti-aiming system naysayer. I think what he is wanting to lead up to is an easier to understand description of how instructions to pick one of four visual approaches accounts for any possible shot.
Tony can play. https://www.youtube.com/user/MyBuster14/videos
Tony can play. https://www.youtube.com/user/MyBuster14/videos
That diagram is what I and others have been looking for. It is like a Tabula Rasa to me.
Geometrically, there is a difference between a 45 degree shot line vs. a 50 degree shot line as your chart shows.
Starting at CTE line and then capturing the secondary A, B, C and 1/8 line gets you close to both angles - in your diagram, I believe "C", but there is an adjustment (as shown in your chart) like those when applying stun, high top, draw, left or right english that alters the path of the CB and OB to the intended target.
This what engineers want to know...how does one achieve the cut angles between A. B, C and 1/8? I can diagram these almost infinite paths to the GB that sends the OB to the target...but who cares?
If there are diagrams like those that JB Cases posted in the DVDs that show the geometrical relations to achieve the cut angle required to the requirements of the system (that I don't have) then I haven't seen them here.
Adjustments must be made whether conscious or not...perception is a powerfull thing that gets you there but hard to diagram.
I hope that JB Cases chimes in for he has a grasp of the disconnect that engineers have with this and similar systems.
Just saying and not knocking for I am a believer in what Hal and others have proffered about CTE aiming but not geometrically diagrammed...not that that is important to non-engineers.:thumbup:
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If your Eyes sweep(move) to the right, to me this means your coming from the left.Also this is what it looks like in your video.So my diagram would be rite.
I do have the dvd.
Anthony
Then you know that for manual CTE the cue pivot is right to left for the shots I demonstrated.
However, in Pro One your eyes move to the right of the CTEL in a right visual sweep - which is what I was doing.
Hope that helps - Stan describes it very well in the DVD.
Gerry
However, in Pro One your eyes move to the right of the CTEL in a right visual sweep - which is what I was doing.
Hope that helps - Stan describes it very well in the DVD.
Gerry
All this math makes my head hurt. 
All I know is that i used CTE on every shot in APA masters last night. Ran two in a row and won 7-4.
Been using CTE for less than two weeks.
All I know is that i used CTE on every shot in APA masters last night. Ran two in a row and won 7-4.
Been using CTE for less than two weeks.
Yes - just see and shoot.
dirtychapurado2
dirtychampurado
To me I think thats what it is, and the term "eyes lead and the body follows". I have been shooting like that, maybe due to time messing around with pivots/sweeps or whatever you want to call it for quite sometime, so I just stop thinking about it and trust the way my body move and if I miss I thought oh well restart and maybe over exaggerate or under exaggerate my pivots, but it worked in the first place. Just go through the pre shot routine adress the relation between cb and ob, find cte, and align the edge a,b,c, or 1/8 then concentrate on the ccb and shoot.
This what works for me, specially last night..it just felt comfortable to me. I didnt ran out100 racks but it feels right pocketing balls just need to work on my speed and position.
Not to many more questions
but does your visual sweep create a different aiming point as you staring line up?On the 4 shots was the visual sweep creating a thinner or thicker shot?Thanks for your input also.
Anthony
Well of course, otherwise why do it 
Once I get visuals I focus on CCB and move in.
Once I get visuals I focus on CCB and move in.
From my own experience and discussions I've had with Stan, I believe that visuals are going to be the same for all right handers. Lefties will be exact opposite. Eye dominance has zero to do with the visuals! However, I cannot (yet) say this with conviction. This is my own experience and understanding, so take it for what its worth.
That said, I just went to the table and tried some different visuals to see what eye was picking up what.
For A/C thick shots (left or right cuts), my right eye picked up both lines every time. For shots with a B alignment, my left eye would pick up the left line and my right eye would pick up the right line. For thin cuts, my right eye picked up thin left cuts and my left eye picked up right thin cuts.
Others proficient with CTE PRO ONE please post your findings, I would be interested to hear. Also say if you are right/left handed or right/left eye dominant. I am right handed, left eye dominant.
JB,
My hunch is that there will never be a math equation for CTE. I believe it is possible, however too complicated to be of much use. I am in the middle of an article that will shed some details on why I think this is so.
Well of course, otherwise why do it
Once I get visuals I focus on CCB and move in.
Ok it creates a different aiming line and you must know this because like you said of course it does.You forgot to answer the other question did the shot become a thick or thinner hit.(after the sweep)
Anthony
The visual sweep is just a movement to center cue ball. In dvd #1 it was called a pro1 pivot. I am thinking your just playing around Anthony?
No im just trying to understand what you guys are doing.:wink:
So to you the visual sweep dosnt create a new aiming line.