Well reasoned/argued............Tap Tap..........
WPBA rank earned by Ms Duddy.....20
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Well reasoned/argued............Tap Tap..........
WPBA rank earned by Ms Duddy.....20
LOL.
Look at the WPBA's player rankings. All this proves is that she's played more events than a number of other stronger to much stronger players.
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and there are 31 ranked lower.....
Who I am sure also call themselves pro pool players...
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Don't think I have seen anyone be an Open+, just Open. And many Open players are also Pro players. I think an Open plays just a lower ranked Pro, maybe not in the top 20 or 30 in the country. Pro is really a designation for someone who's business it is playing pool, but in this case can mean the top players period.
From C to A you have C, C+, B-, B, B+, A
A, A+, Open, Pro
I never has seen the Open category be listed as Open - or Open +. Maybe some that rank As as A AA or AAA right before the Open or Pro. Some list Open same as Pro, technically they can be the same thing.
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Shoebat
Okay- so some people are bringing up arguments based on whether there was a Reasonable Alternative Design (RAD), or whether the current product being discussed is truly State of the Art (SOTA).
This line of thinking states that there are better products (female pool players) out there, but that they aren't being used/ marketed to the best of their ability. However: there are no institutional barriers to those other products reaching the market.
Sure, there are other products that don't have the financial ability, or the time, to chase all of these tournaments, and to achieve the market branding needed. But we cannot institute merit-based values into a purely capitalist enterprise without fundamental, systemic changes. There would have to first be strong, regulated, well- populated regional and pro tours for these players to compete and aspire to- ones that actually outweigh other options that these players might have (education/ jobs/ family), and ultimately that could fund the future market- grabbing attempts by those products.
It is even likely that some of the mentioned, relatively unknown products are truly better functioning machines, but are possibly either older, not as attractive, or they have company values that prohibit such marketing tactics as are currently being used. There should be other ways to develop these products. (Note that in both of these arguments, the responsive burden lies on the product to make it's own path.)
Just thinking aloud here... Perhaps they can get a little weight from the "pro's?"
This line of thinking states that there are better products (female pool players) out there, but that they aren't being used/ marketed to the best of their ability. However: there are no institutional barriers to those other products reaching the market.
Sure, there are other products that don't have the financial ability, or the time, to chase all of these tournaments, and to achieve the market branding needed. But we cannot institute merit-based values into a purely capitalist enterprise without fundamental, systemic changes. There would have to first be strong, regulated, well- populated regional and pro tours for these players to compete and aspire to- ones that actually outweigh other options that these players might have (education/ jobs/ family), and ultimately that could fund the future market- grabbing attempts by those products.
It is even likely that some of the mentioned, relatively unknown products are truly better functioning machines, but are possibly either older, not as attractive, or they have company values that prohibit such marketing tactics as are currently being used. There should be other ways to develop these products. (Note that in both of these arguments, the responsive burden lies on the product to make it's own path.)
Just thinking aloud here... Perhaps they can get a little weight from the "pro's?"
A lot of Russian pyramid tables in bumfuuuck, OH?
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Now that gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Getting Weight" from your opponent
I just want to go on record and apologize to the entire Russian Pyramid Billiards community. It never dawned on me to study the billiards table in question to be certain that it was in fact a regulation pool table. I'm obviously an insensitive, unobservant moron. My Bad.
I think the rankings change depending on where you're from. In NY, for instance, there's no such thing as a B minus - in fact, no minuses whatsoever. And there's definitely such a thing as an O+. And I've never seen an AA, except for people who are giving up drinking, or an AAA, except for people whose cars broke down in the middle of nowhere.
A lot of Open level players play in pro tournaments, but Open is a skill level, and it's below Pro. You don't see any Open players winning big tournaments because they're a notch or two behind the pros in skills, and also probably the mental game.
The analogy was terrible. No one's interested in defining professional "status"; what's in contention is professional SPEED. Does she play at a pro speed, or not? If not, why is she entered into an international professional tournament? I couldn't give a shit about her WPBA ranking, or whether she makes x amount of income from pool related promotions.
I suppose by your convoluted logic she can simultaneously be a C player AND a pro, but in any rational universe her pro status is merely a technicality.
-roger
Calm down Jerry. I meant it was an embarrassment for her, and perhaps I was a bit embarrassed for her as well. We are very empathetic mammals after all.
You are obviously a fan, and that's great.
-roger
