No holy grail?

Yikes. At least that chicken wing only flaps in one direction. The one in the other video appeared capable of achieving vertical lift!

Still, you concentrate on aiming, eh?

LOL, with that swerving poke stroke that JB has, and the chicken wing to boot, JB will be looking for the holy grail for many years to come. :)
 
No there is no holy grail to pool their is no one system and no one way to learn. Just like in golf baseball and other sports there are many differant coaches who teach many differant ways none better than the other
Pete Rose certainly did not have the natural swing of Ted Williams but thru hard work and a compassion for the game like few ever had he became one of the best hitters of all time ,
Of course he had to have god given eye hand talent to go with it :smile:

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Just want to be sure of what is meant of natural talent, to me it means that one is able to see, think, and his/her body healthy and is normal, which is most of the people are, those that are unfortunate and have bad eyes, or mental condition do not have natural talent. Am i correct.


I don't think you can become a good pool player without a good memory. Pool is all about building up an inventory, or library if you will, of shots, bridges, speeds and spins. The longer you play the larger and more profound your library becomes and the quicker you can call them up.

Lou Figueroa
 
LOL, with that swerving poke stroke that JB has, and the chicken wing to boot, JB will be looking for the holy grail for many years to come. :)

That is correct. I cannot play at all. What you see on the videos is my best game and I will take the five out and the breaks to prove how badly I play. :-)

Fortunately for me I am not so close-minded as to be willing to practice and improve my stroke and to take coaching from those who coach champions. I predict that with this practice I will only need the six out from you.

As Teddy said, it's not the critic who counts.
 
Ok. Thanks, anonymous tips from "newbie" members are always welcome. I will muddle along my way if that's ok with you. You don't fancy pork pies do you?

The reconstituted pig left-overs or the rhyming slang? Both have their place, but neither are as good as a nice slice of humble pie - especially when you're wrong. Do they serve it in China, John?
 
That is correct. I cannot play at all. What you see on the videos is my best game and I will take the five out and the breaks to prove how badly I play. :-)

Fortunately for me I am not so close-minded as to be willing to practice and improve my stroke and to take coaching from those who coach champions. I predict that with this practice I will only need the six out from you.

As Teddy said, it's not the critic who counts.

Where are your videos on how to improve your stroke?
 
I don't think you can become a good pool player without a good memory. Pool is all about building up an inventory, or library if you will, of shots, bridges, speeds and spins. The longer you play the larger and more profound your library becomes and the quicker you can call them up.

Lou Figueroa

Any one with average memory can pick up a cue and play. No special God gifted memory required. All that is needed is dedication and love to the game and lots of practice. Anyone can easily become a pro if he or she decided the pro path, but lots of sacrifices needed, you have to drops school, regular work, family you name it of which is not many people can afford.
 
Where are your videos on how to improve your stroke?

I am years away from making them. I figure I need at least 10-20 more years of practice to have a good stroke. Meanwhile I am having a bunch of fun making balls with my lousy stroke. I dream of the day when I can couple my great aiming with a good stroke. Until then though I will just continue to have fun shooting pool the way I like to play.

I mean even add in an extra chicken wing dipsy do stroke just for the fun of it.
 
The reconstituted pig left-overs or the rhyming slang? Both have their place, but neither are as good as a nice slice of humble pie - especially when you're wrong. Do they serve it in China, John?

They certainly do, it's called losing face. So you are more than welcome to prove me wrong and make me lose face. Since we are on a first name basis now then you won't mind if I call you pathetic?
 
Any one with average memory can pick up a cue and play. No special God gifted memory required. All that is needed is dedication and love to the game and lots of practice. Anyone can easily become a pro if he or she decided the pro path, but lots of sacrifices needed, you have to drops school, regular work, family you name it of which is not many people can afford.

I'm not buying one once of this god did not create everyone equal

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Any one with average memory can pick up a cue and play. No special God gifted memory required. All that is needed is dedication and love to the game and lots of practice. Anyone can easily become a pro if he or she decided the pro path, but lots of sacrifices needed, you have to drops school, regular work, family you name it of which is not many people can afford.


No, not "anyone can easily become a pro..."

In my day i have seen all kinds of guys play night and day for years -- young guys who would have given their left nut to become top gun. But they didn't know how to get there; they were not systematic in their practice; and perhaps, just maybe, their memory was not so good.

Lou Figueroa
 
"When you're hitting balls good, hit lots of balls." Sam Snead It has some truth, but if you do not know why you are hitting them that good that day, and not so good other days the saying by Sam is useless. That is what differentiate a pro from a lesser pro player.

Naji, I have that 'illumination' a lot -- and always wonder, how do I know which of the things I'm doing on those days is making the difference? I usually assume my alignment is just better on those far above average days. Any advice? I try to watch videos of myself to figure it out, but due to prior back problems my fundamentals are so unique I wind up wondering how I'm making any pots at all, much less with total control of the table.

OT/similar, anyone know of instructors with good reputations in the Central Florida-Orlando area?
 
Harrison Ford found that many years ago. Duh!

No...Indiana Jones & his father found it years ago.:wink:

And, don't you remember...it was swallowed up by a huge creavice in the earth.

So... I think Satin is shooting lights outs.

If anyone wants to shoot that well, they may have to make a deal.:wink:

Regards,:wink:

Disclaimer: I don't really think Satin is in the center of the Earth.
 
No, not "anyone can easily become a pro..."

In my day i have seen all kinds of guys play night and day for years -- young guys who would have given their left nut to become top gun. But they didn't know how to get there; they were not systematic in their practice; and perhaps, just maybe, their memory was not so good.

Lou Figueroa

Sorry Lou i do not know when your days was, but today the number of pros is skyrocketing mainly due to the internet era, and everyone is logging in and learning, and many many not yet pros but approaching, all can easily get 90-95% % of pool secrets if not 100% just from AZB, Youtube, DR. Dave's ...etc. There are so many local pros in each state, but we may not know them because they cannot afford travel or wants to remain hustlers, or they simply have other life commitments.

As far as making a pro , you do need a good coach and serious effort in doing so other wise it might end up in failure, for sure you need to have money to start with...
 
"When you're hitting balls good, hit lots of balls." Sam Snead It has some truth, but if you do not know why you are hitting them that good that day, and not so good other days the saying by Sam is useless. That is what differentiate a pro from a lesser pro player.

Mr. Naji,

What Mr. Snead meant was that when you are htting balls well, that is the time to grove it into your subconscious. Yes it would be nice to know why, but he didn't really care why. Mr. Snead was not a very learned man, but Mr. Snead was what we refer to as 'a natural'. He had what has been called the best golf swing of all time. Even when Mr. Snead was in his sixties he could kick out a light bulb on the ceiling with his other foot still on the floor & he could put his hands flat on the floor without bending his knees when he was in his seventies. That's how flexible he was.

What you speak of, knowing why, is what the non-natural talent people want to know. The 'natural talent' people often have no idea how or why they can do what they do. They just do what they do because it works.

I hope this gives you some more insight as to what is meant when someone refers to 'natural talent'.

Best Regards,
 
Sorry Lou i do not know when your days was, but today the number of pros is skyrocketing mainly due to the internet era, and everyone is logging in and learning, and many many not yet pros but approaching, all can easily get 90-95% % of pool secrets if not 100% just from AZB, Youtube, DR. Dave's ...etc. There are so many local pros in each state, but we may not know them because they cannot afford travel or wants to remain hustlers, or they simply have other life commitments.

As far as making a pro , you do need a good coach and serious effort in doing so other wise it might end up in failure, for sure you need to have money to start with...


There have *always* been obstacles, like other commitments and travel costs, involved with being a pro. That has not changed. And, having played in events like the DCC and Tunica and The US One Pocket Open, (two of those for over 10 years) I can tell you from first hand knowledge that the number of pros is not "skyrocketing" but appears to be dropping. There are just too many distractions for a young player nowadays (the same internet you cite being one of them), the game is too tough, and the potential rewards diminished from before. It's still tougher than ever to assemble a 64 man field willing to cough up the entry fee and expenses and at the DCC the numbers for all events were down around 10% from last year.

Yes, the knowledge base is wider and more readily available today than it was forty years ago, and that has, IMO, raised the general level of play. But the fact remains: not everyone has what it takes to become a pro.

Lou Figueroa
 
Naji, I have that 'illumination' a lot -- and always wonder, how do I know which of the things I'm doing on those days is making the difference? I usually assume my alignment is just better on those far above average days. Any advice? I try to watch videos of myself to figure it out, but due to prior back problems my fundamentals are so unique I wind up wondering how I'm making any pots at all, much less with total control of the table.

OT/similar, anyone know of instructors with good reputations in the Central Florida-Orlando area?

Mr. Jedi,

I hate to say this, but if you have physical limitations, I would think that you would need to find your own way as I suspect that you have. I doubt that an instructor will be able to really help you. The balls can not see you as they falling into the pockets. An instructor may actually do more harm than good. I could be wrong. But that is just some food for thought.

Regards,
 
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