When using CTE, how do I determine the tangent line for playing position?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
A question for CTE users
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Tangent line doesn't change because of CTE. It is 90 degrees with stun from the point of contact. Obviously draw and follow will pull the cue ball off of the tangent/stun line.
How do you locate the contact point?
I would venture to guess that you determine the contact point before starting the cte process? Is that correct? If not, then when in your routine do you locate the contact point so that you can determine an exact line for the cue ball to follow after contact?
CTE is a visual system. There is only one shot in CTE. The eyes take you to the 1 tick on the CB that is the shot line for every single shot.
In CTE the eyes do the same thing over and over as if each shot is a straight in. Plus you you get a slight over cut for every cut shot. In CTE throw is factored in.... Neat...
Stan Shuffett
CTE is a visual system. There is only one shot in CTE. The eyes take you to the 1 tick on the CB that is the shot line for every single shot.
In CTE the eyes do the same thing over and over as if each shot is a straight in. Plus you you get a slight over cut for every cut shot. In CTE throw is factored in.... Neat...
Stan Shuffett
So you recognize the contact point after the pivot, after you are down on the shot?
I would think that you would need to plan the shot, including determining the route of the cueball, before dropping into the shot, no?
I had no problem running the 105 on my diamond, NEVER knowing the precise shot line until my eyes took me there...
Stan Shuffett
In order for me to understand the complete shot process, could you walk us through you mental pre shot routine Stan? When do you analyze what route the cueball is going to take after contact?
I do the CB stuff during my alignment. I simply see the OB route and the CB route. That's a right brain oriented activity....there is ABSOLUTELY no need to know the precise tick of 360 on the OB for position play....
Prior to alignment I do mental work concerning angle, speed and spin.
Stan Shuffett
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I figured you determined angle speed and spin before alignment but how do you determine angle, speed, and spin; in particular angle, without either determining the contact point or visualizing where the cueball is going to be upon impact?
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Your probing and half glass is empty type attitude is simply meant to trap and nothing more.
I have already answered this. I DO NOT NEED AN EXACT TICK TO DETERMINE A GREAT CB ROUTE......
I am not going to keep the games up with YOU!
Stan Shuffett
My probing was an attempt to better understand what it is you do.
I see your emotional outburst as an attempt to end this conversation and with that I will give you what you want so as not to get banned.
Have a good day sir.
There is no emotion on my part at all. I am not going to waste my time with your never-ending, probing, insincere questions that are meant to corner me and nothing else.
I was not born yesterday...
Stan Shuffett
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to stan shuffett again. :frown:
It has been said that you don't need to see the pocket as demonstrated with sheets covering most of the table. Imagining the contact point is not relevant except for shape.
The sheet demo only proves that Stan does not need to see the pocket for those trick shots and not the any user of CTE can do that. Think of a soccer player. You think they are looking at the goal when they do one of those high kicks over into the goal?
Nope, they do not because they know where they are on the field and as such know where the goal is in their head so there is no need to be looking at the goal. This skill did not happen over night but of years of playing and practicing.
Also, thinking that the contact point is only relevant for shape shows a lack of knowledge of shots.
When you carom the CB off a OB in order to make another OB ball, the contact point is everything. When doing a three ball combo, the contact point is everything.
Sending the CB two rails to a OB, the contact point on the rail is everything.
When you need to bump balls as done in 14.1, the contact point is everything.
In order to know what the CB will do after hitting a OB, you must know where the contact point is. IF you don't, you will not be consistent in your shape, caroms, or combos.
This is a good example of the limitations of CTE.
I concur with everything you posted, but I was refering to what some here have implied.
I aim the CP to CP and not CTE.
What would lead you to believe a CTE user doesn't know where the contact point on the OB is?
A Ghost ball user draws a line from the pocket through the object ball to determine the contact point then mentally adds an invisible ball and aims at the invisible ball to hit the contact point. After a period of time the Ghostball player begins to know where a contact point is without drawing the line.
A CTE player can also draw a line or assess the contact point through experience. The only difference is we use a different method of aiming to hit the contact point.
I can teach a first grader in two minutes how to perfectly find an OB ball contact point. Its the delivery of the CB to the contact point that matters. CTE delivers the CB precisely to the contact point - no invisible ball guesswork required.