Tar 35

Wu or Ko vs Shane

Dear TAR staffs ,
If you can make one TAR : Shane vs Ko Pin Yi or Wu, I'm 200% sure that the traffic will be overflown and that will be your biggest payday for one TAR match :).
I personally never pay for a stream before, will certainly pay for that match.
 
TAR 35 - Day 1 Shot-by-Shot Statistics

:yeah: Results and Statistics are Online Now! :yeah:

Click Here to View the Official Pool-Trax
Shot-by-Shot Match Statistics
and Rack-by-Rack Results.

Click on the Event Name Below to View Players' Overall Event Statistics:
TAR 35: SVB vs Dennis Orcullo

Here are additional links to each player's Player-Trax containing stats from various matches and events featuring Pool-Trax Shot-by-Shot Statistics:
Shane Van Boening Dennis Orcullo​

** Note: For statistical tracking purposes this event has been broken down into three separate "Matches" - disregard the marking of "Winner" to SVB in this image.
 

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jay helfert said:
Shane needs a steady diet of guy's like this. They might finally wear him down. Right now he looks like a world beater!

Personally I'd love to see Wu play a match. He is just so damn good! At his best, he toyed with everyone else. I saw him literally demolish good players. When Darren beat him in the finals of the World Ten Ball three years ago, it was one of the most gutsy performances I ever saw.
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Darren was amazing that day, wow!!
 
Pool-Trax said:
:yeah: Results and Statistics are Online Now! :yeah:

Click Here to View the Official Pool-Trax
Shot-by-Shot Match Statistics
and Rack-by-Rack Results.

Click on the Event Name Below to View Players' Overall Event Statistics:
TAR 35: SVB vs Dennis Orcullo

Here are additional links to each player's Player-Trax containing stats from various matches and events featuring Pool-Trax Shot-by-Shot Statistics:
Shane Van Boening Dennis Orcullo​

** Note: For statistical tracking purposes this event has been broken down into three separate "Matches" - disregard the marking of "Winner" to SVB in this image.
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this right here is the best stats i ever saw in my life, wow!!!!!

and shanes numbers are just scary
 
Island Drive said:
Years back....I remember a small window in time, when at a bar tournament, that I drove ALL day and past dinner to get to. This yahoo pulls out a galvanized 1/4'' pipe approx. 24'', with a solid plastic end. Super ball is what whitey became. I've NEVER in life seen pro 3 cushion or snooker players talk about ways to get up/over another ball, am I wrong. :dance: And if Not, then Why do pool players think they are entitled, when all other disciplines its NOT.:shakehead::shrug::scratchhead:
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Well I agree with you that the pipes and crap like that should not be allowed. But a modern jump cue IS a cue. You can do everything with it that you can do with a regular pool and a little more.

That said I would also be ok with a no jump shot rule but then I want a call safety rule. In other words no more lucky safes that unfairly penalize the incoming player, no missing the ball by a diamond and it rolls fives rails and gets safe and the incoming player is screwed.

In snooker there is zero requirement to get a rail after contact. You can roll up to a ball. And in carom of course there is no need for jump shots.

I do wish that in pool everyone would get together and decide one way or the other though.
 
I don't understand what the problem is

If both guys can use jump cues that's fine. If one guy is better at that shot than the other then it's an advantage that he probably wants to have. If both players are equal then it's a moot point. If guys don't like it when a guy jumps out of a safe he played, there's a simple solution, put him closer to or frozen on the impeding ball! If you can't do that then take your medicine and sweat the jump shot. Either way it's all completely a moot point because as long as both players play with the same rules it won't affect the outcome one bit.

All that being said, I jump pretty well with the short stick but if the other guy is using the same rules as me make em whatever you want. I could care less jump cues or no jump cues and if one player whines about it it's because either he's no good at it or plays bad safeties.

Just my thoughts
 
JB Cases said:
Well I agree with you that the pipes and crap like that should not be allowed. But a modern jump cue IS a cue. You can do everything with it that you can do with a regular pool and a little more.

That said I would also be ok with a no jump shot rule but then I want a call safety rule. In other words no more lucky safes that unfairly penalize the incoming player, no missing the ball by a diamond and it rolls fives rails and gets safe and the incoming player is screwed.

In snooker there is zero requirement to get a rail after contact. You can roll up to a ball. And in carom of course there is no need for jump shots.

I do wish that in pool everyone would get together and decide one way or the other though.
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Should eliminate the push out somehow as well as that is a penalty to the breaker who makes a ball or the incoming player after a dry break. Maybe have an option to spot the lowest number ball and have bih in the kitchen and/or the option to push out. Bring the spot shot back!
 
Mark Griffin said:
http://www.playbca.com/Events/2013USOpenProEvents.aspx

This is the link (updated as players register) to show who will be here for the US Open events.

Sasha - thank for telling me that WU will be in the US.

I did not recognize his name (with the Chinese spelling).
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Everyone from China is showing with their last name in the first name column and first name in last name column. It's probably due to how they put in the form.

Here in Asia, many countries use last name first format.
 
JesseBfan said:
If both guys can use jump cues that's fine. If one guy is better at that shot than the other then it's an advantage that he probably wants to have. If both players are equal then it's a moot point. If guys don't like it when a guy jumps out of a safe he played, there's a simple solution, put him closer to or frozen on the impeding ball! If you can't do that then take your medicine and sweat the jump shot. Either way it's all completely a moot point because as long as both players play with the same rules it won't affect the outcome one bit.

All that being said, I jump pretty well with the short stick but if the other guy is using the same rules as me make em whatever you want. I could care less jump cues or no jump cues and if one player whines about it it's because either he's no good at it or plays bad safeties.

Just my thoughts
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Here is the thing with full cue jumps. I can hand you two great cues that you can play lights outs with.

But with one of them you do full cue jump shots and look like Michael Jordan and with the other one you won't be able to jump over a quarter.

So is that "fair" if one player has a full cue with great jumpability and the other one doesn't? People think that full cue jumping is all skill and that's simply not true, the cue is still a huge part of it. ( i know this from YEARS of studying this)

Anyway it is what is is.
 
JB Cases said:
Here is the thing with full cue jumps. I can hand you two great cues that you can play lights outs with.

But with one of them you do full cue jump shots and look like Michael Jordan and with the other one you won't be able to jump over a quarter.

So is that "fair" if one player has a full cue with great jumpability and the other one doesn't? People think that full cue jumping is all skill and that's simply not true, the cue is still a huge part of it. ( i know this from YEARS of studying this)

Anyway it is what is is.
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Thanks JB, I'll have to investigate that. When I was younger I used to do jump shots all the time with my cue. Was away from the game for 10 years and got back in. I have a different cue now (still have the old one though) and can barely jump a quarter ball with it. I thought age just got the best of me! I'll have to try it with my older cue.

In your years of studying, what was the underlying factor? Weight distribution, tip hardness, shaft flex?
 
I don't know if the technology is expensive, but I wish TAR had instant replay. It would be nice to see replays of great shots in between racks.
 
Diamond69 said:
Thanks JB, I'll have to investigate that. When I was younger I used to do jump shots all the time with my cue. Was away from the game for 10 years and got back in. I have a different cue now (still have the old one though) and can barely jump a quarter ball with it. I thought age just got the best of me! I'll have to try it with my older cue.

In your years of studying, what was the underlying factor? Weight distribution, tip hardness, shaft flex?
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Players do choose their cues right? There's no rule stating that you have to choose one of the cues that doesn't jump well. Again, it all comes down to execution anyway. If you don't want guys jumping out of safeties, play better safeties. And if jump cues are allowed then don't ***** about them, get better at it. If they aren't allowed then in an ideal world just bad jumpshots of any kind. IMO there's nothing wrong with any ruleset that 2 players agree upon.
 
Meanwhile ... Dennis is shooting with that I don't give a hoot style since Shane's lead is widening.
 
Diamond69 said:
I only have medium or harder on my cues. Never used a soft tip. My old cue may have had a harder tip than my current one though. I don't recall.
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I've always used lepro hard, if I use anything softer I can't jump worth a crap. Never used a jump cue - agree with Earl on this - full length or nothing
 
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