Ball to Ball Physics

True, speed has everything to do with how to aim. I'm sorry the video didn't use any slow speed shots because there would've been still another point of aim.
 
I make all of these with Pro One at varying speeds and cb position with no problem.

Gerry you just play Good!:wink:

This isn't aimed at any one system.
Know system allows for all the variables when dealing with speed ,thickness of the hit(thicker the hit the more cit)and what we tend to do with whitey.

We must make that decision before the shot is taken.

There are a lot of players that don't even realize whats going on,
they just think they hit the wrong spot.

Anthony
 
True, speed has everything to do with how to aim. I'm sorry the video didn't use any slow speed shots because there would've been still another point of aim.


I agree.

I Just wanted to give an example of how the balls react to each other using different hits.

Anthony
 
This video is in response to another thread.

Try this out,you will see that there is an erratic behavior on the ob created by some type of hits.The speed,thickness and where the cb is hit very much determines the path.No aiming system gets around it.

Anthony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzhPjAi0Dk&feature=youtu.be

Nice vid.
There are other types of english not shown for the vid would have been longer.
I would like to see the same type of vid showing where the CB would be to make all of the shots in the left corner pocket...to show how much compensation is required.

Thanks/:):thumbup:
 
Nice vid.
There are other types of english not shown for the vid would have been longer.
I would like to see the same type of vid showing where the CB would be to make all of the shots in the left corner pocket...to show how much compensation is required.

Thanks/:):thumbup:

Good idea, I can't wait for the sequel. :D
 
This video is in response to another thread.

Try this out,you will see that there is an erratic behavior on the ob created by some type of hits.The speed,thickness and where the cb is hit very much determines the path.No aiming system gets around it.

Anthony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzhPjAi0Dk&feature=youtu.be

The behavior is not erratic. It's consistent.

My observation with CTE is that I can use it to aim with and then adjust the hit consciously for speed. That adjustment is very very tiny but it's conscious. Most of the time however no adjustment is needed regardless of speed.

With Back Hand English I get the centerball shot line and simply move my backhand to the spin I want to apply. Works great.

Here is a video that disagrees with you somewhat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKDpUqY39o
 
The behavior is not erratic. It's consistent.

My observation with CTE is that I can use it to aim with and then adjust the hit consciously for speed. That adjustment is very very tiny but it's conscious. Most of the time however no adjustment is needed regardless of speed.

With Back Hand English I get the centerball shot line and simply move my backhand to the spin I want to apply. Works great.

Here is a video that disagrees with you somewhat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKDpUqY39o


It is erratic if you don't know.(balls path)Yes its a consistent thing because its there and always will be.

My video is just about certain hits.(an example)
How one deals with it isnt my concern.:smile:

Not sure what your disagreeing about, just saying one needs to watch their speed how they hit whitey.
 
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It is erratic if you don't know.(balls path)Yes its a consistent because its there and always will be.

My video is just about certain hits.(an example)
How one deals with it isnt my concern.:smile:

Not sure what your disagreeing about, just saying one needs to watch their speed how they hit whitey.


Watch part of your video John,enough to know your wrong my friend.:)
 
Watch part of your video John,enough to know your wrong my friend.:)

Which part? The ball goes in the pocket at every speed. I think it misses barely twice which might have been due to faulty setup. I set that track up trying to take out as much human error as possible.
 
Anthony - I watched your video. Your stroke/fundamentals must be off when you play the balls hard - once you almost banked it back in the corner when trying to cut it in.

I can play those shots soft or blast the daylights out of them and they will go. Balls actually throw more when played at a softer speed. Speed reduces throw.

So not sure what your video is proving - you are obviously not cutting the shot the same each time....maybe you should use an aiming system :)

Gerry

Watch part of your video John,enough to know your wrong my friend.:)
 
Nice vid.
There are other types of english not shown for the vid would have been longer.
I would like to see the same type of vid showing where the CB would be to make all of the shots in the left corner pocket...to show how much compensation is required.

Thanks/:):thumbup:

Thanks!.

Maybe down the road I mite.Restoring a 1948 willys rite now ,keeping me busy and broke.:smile:

Anthony
 
It is erratic if you don't know.(balls path)Yes its a consistent thing because its there and always will be.

My video is just about certain hits.(an example)
How one deals with it isnt my concern.:smile:

Not sure what your disagreeing about, just saying one needs to watch their speed how they hit whitey.

I am disagreeing that the effect is as big as you demonstrated in your video. This video showed that for this shot at least the shot goes in consistently with very hard, medium and very soft hits.

Here is another one I did on this subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbS6XxVtEzQ
 
Anthony - I watched your video. Your stroke/fundamentals must be off when you play the balls hard - once you almost banked it back in the corner when trying to cut it in.

I can play those shots soft or blast the daylights out of them and they will go. Balls actually throw more when played at a softer speed. Speed reduces throw.

So not sure what your video is proving - you are obviously not cutting the shot the same each time....maybe you should use an aiming system :)

Gerry

I agree ,my fundamentals arnt the greatest.My balls havnt been cleaned for awhile, so what I get may be different then what you get.

Not saying what causes the most cit,just giving am example of some hits.

I do use systems,and a routine for aiming.(cant you tell):wink:Dont go to far out of your way to disprove me,you wont be changing my mind.:)
 
Lol - so you have an open mind I see :)

CIT is maximized at softer speeds with inside siding. Stun also is the shot that throws the most and at around 30 degrees or 1/2 ball hit it is close to it's maximum.

So a soft stun with inside siding should prove the point :)

Have a good day buddy!

I agree ,my fundamentals arnt the greatest.My balls havnt been cleaned for awhile, so what I get may be different then what you get.

Not saying what causes the most cit,just giving am example of some hits.

I do use systems,and a routine for aiming.(cant you tell):wink:Dont go to far out of your way to disprove me,you wont be changing my mind.:)
 
I am disagreeing that the effect is as big as you demonstrated in your video. This video showed that for this shot at least the shot goes in consistently with very hard, medium and very soft hits.

Here is another one I did on this subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbS6XxVtEzQ

How clean the balls are will make a difference.I did my best to hit the edge of the ob.:smile:

Are you saying that i adjusted on some hits.?:smile:
 
I agree ,my fundamentals arnt the greatest.My balls havnt been cleaned for awhile, so what I get may be different then what you get.

Not saying what causes the most cit,just giving am example of some hits.

I do use systems,and a routine for aiming.(cant you tell):wink:Dont go to far out of your way to disprove me,you wont be changing my mind.:)

What can be wrong if you are aiming the center of the CB at the edge of the OB...system or no system.

Good show.:thumbup:
 
Most collision induced throw happens with a hard stun at approx 30 degrees.

It's also possible the cue ball is in the air on contact with the object ball which also causes an undercut.
 
How clean the balls are will make a difference.I did my best to hit the edge of the ob.:smile:

Are you saying that i adjusted on some hits.?:smile:

No, I am saying that the jury is still out on what does what. Any time a human is doing the shooting then there are a million variables in play with every shot.

I need to get one of those PneuCues and set it up in a fixed jig and use that to try the shots.
 
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