You, again?!?!?!Welcome back!
Best,
Mike
It was from here that Mr. Wilson hit me with ‘El Kabong’, so here is where I will make my return post.
Mr. Wilson, I apologize for my short comings, but I was provoked by the continuation of the ongoing personal insults from a certain individual. I sincerely hope that I never again give you cause to suspend nor ban me from AZB. My only intention for ever remaining on AZB after buying two (2) LD shafts is to attempt to help those that are trying to improve their game if & when I can. I thought that defining the cue path of a ‘pendulum’ stroke might be a form of helping those that might be considering it over a more straight line piston type stroke.
However, you have made your ‘point’ quite clear. I am not on even footing & it seems that on occasion my attempts to be helpful to those trying to improve have not been conducive to a certain symbiotic relationship that you & AZB demand remain in harmony. However, AZB is not & I doubt will ever be a Utopia. Regardless, I will certainly try my best to get in tune with my ‘turn the other cheek’ Christian side. I can only hope that I will be able to keep my Christian side compatible with my affinity for the truth & hopefully can divest myself of situations where they are not compatible. In spite of what some think, I never intend to cause disharmony. However some subjects will inevitably come to a bit of contention whenever there is a disagreement between two (2) or more parties. I do & always have hoped that those contentions can remain of a civil nature. Civility was the subject of my only other thread in this sub-forum. I will certainly do my best to endeavor to abide by your rule of harmony. I can only hope that my affinity for the whole truth will allow me to do so.
Sincerely,
Thanks Ms. Crimi. May I call you Fran?
I appreciate the comments you made regarding me in another thread. Your point was on target. I'll just leave it at that.
It's good to see you posting more too as your independent opinions & wealth of knowledge & experience is always good to read, as well as, your honest voice of reason.
For what it is worth, one of the only two (2) things that I have learned from my time on AZB that I could actually take to the table to help my game was your advice on how to get the red circle ball to follow more consistently. Thanks for that & if I may be so bold, I'll also say thanks for all of your other rational & independent advice that I am sure have helped so many others.
I'd like to also pat you on the back for staying on AZB given all of the veiled disrespect that is thrown your way. Some 'men' are just fearful of competition from or being bested by a female & seem to not understand the Golden Rule of 'do unto others as you would have done onto yourself'. I respect it when you defend yourself against those 'little men' but please be careful. I would not want you to join me in feeling Mr. Wilson's 'El Kabong'.
All the Best to You & Thanks Again,
Rick
Back to the topic at hand, the cleanest stroke and stance I've seen in person is that of Stuart Pettman, former pro snooker player turned pool pro. His stroke and timing are very consistent and as pure as anyone out there and it's quite amazing to watch.
Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i1US7FOrX8
On the seven ball, you can clearly see his grip hand and how it moves to keep the cue moving in a straight line without using an elbow drop.
Thanks Ms. Crimi. May I call you Fran?
I appreciate the comments you made regarding me in another thread. Your point was on target. I'll just leave it at that.
It's good to see you posting more too as your independent opinions & wealth of knowledge & experience is always good to read, as well as, your honest voice of reason.
For what it is worth, one of the only two (2) things that I have learned from my time on AZB that I could actually take to the table to help my game was your advice on how to get the red circle ball to follow more consistently. Thanks for that & if I may be so bold, I'll also say thanks for all of your other rational & independent advice that I am sure have helped so many others.
I'd like to also pat you on the back for staying on AZB given all of the veiled disrespect that is thrown your way. Some 'men' are just fearful of competition from or being bested by a female & seem to not understand the Golden Rule of 'do unto others as you would have done onto yourself'. I respect it when you defend yourself against those 'little men' but please be careful. I would not want you to join me in feeling Mr. Wilson's 'El Kabong'.
All the Best to You & Thanks Again,
Rick
Back to the topic at hand, the cleanest stroke and stance I've seen in person is that of Stuart Pettman, former pro snooker player turned pool pro. His stroke and timing are very consistent and as pure as anyone out there and it's quite amazing to watch.
Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i1US7FOrX8
On the seven ball, you can clearly see his grip hand and how it moves to keep the cue moving in a straight line without using an elbow drop.
Welcome back Rick.
I too think Fran catches way to much heat for teaching what many, including myself most of the time, believe to be correct. I admire her for many things one of which is having the courage to state her opinion even if it is not the popular opinion at the time.
Where can I find her advice on working the red circle? I'd love to read it.
Thanks for getting us a bit back on topic. He certainly has a very 'nice' stroke.
Here's the thing. When the hand moves, down the line, so to speak, instead of coming up to the chest, the elbow has to drop. On most shots, it's only a very small amount. Take a look at the 8 & 9 ball shots & I think you will notice that the elbow actually lowers a bit as the cue goes back, comes back up near to or during contact & then lowers again as the cue goes through the ball. It's not a severe elbow drop like when Mike Massey is shooting his extreme power draw shot but the movement is there. It is a result of the shooter moving the cue along its linear straight line. Straight away from the cue ball & then straight into the cue ball & then straight through contact with the cue ball. I doubt that Mr. Pettman or anyone that shoots in this manner gives any thought what so ever to their elbow at all at any time during the stroke. It is merely a bio mechanical by-product of the intended activity, which is to move the straight cue stick straight along its linear line with no other movement. That certainly seems logical & conducive to me since the stick is straight & not curved. To do otherwise certainly seems very contrived to me. We move baseball bats, tennis rackets, golf clubs, etc. on curved arcs but we are not hitting those balls with the end of the implement. Those implements are used to hit the ball with the 'side' of the implement while using the arc as a source of power. That is not anything similar to a cue stroke.
Thanks again for getting the thread back on topic.
Sincerely,
Rick
PS Where is he playing a tournament that he can play in his bare feet?
Rick,
Your description of Pettmans stroke is right on IMO. I would also note that his grip position on the cue is further back than most that I see, and therefore requires his elbow to drop when taking the cue back to keep the cue moving in a straight line. On the forward stroke the elbow rises as his forearm passes thru vertical, and then lowers again as his hand moves forward in the follow thru.
This is a piston stroke, although a little different than most due to the grip position being further back than most.
Thanks Bruce.
How's your game these days?
Up and down, of course
A bit better the last few weeks, hoping for consistency to build upon.
Hope all has been well with you