Rule against ear plugs

While I can almost buy the thought that ear plugs might not look professional, I think there are a lot of other things that need looking over beside ear plugs.

And for anyone saying that ear plugs cause communication problems in pool, I shout "poppycock". I've used them many times in practice and competition and they DO NOT cause communication problems. If anything, they improve communication because the wearing of them brings a certain amount of caution to the game. The wearer usually points to frozen balls and looks at their opponent to make sure they know acknowledge that the ball is frozen, which should be done when you aren't wearing ear plugs, so the wearer doesn't take it for granted that the opponent heard him call the ball frozen.

When you wear ear plugs, you actually pay more attention to what your opponent is saying than when you don't wear ear plugs and in essence there is less miscommunication between you and your opponent.

Like others have mentioned, ear plugs do not prevent you from hearing statements by your opponent. You can hear most words clearly. With the small amount of words that are needed to be exchanged between players, it's a small wonder that wearing ear plugs isn't the rule.

If you have never worn a custom fitted pair of ear plugs you should do yourself a favor and be fitted for them, just so that you can see the benefits associated with wearing them. If you can't justify the small expense in the cost of custom-fitted ear plugs, buy a pair of stock ones and try them out. The stock ones aren't as comfortable fitting but will do to demonstrate how the wearing of ear plugs can actually enhance the quality of the game.

This past year's Ultimate 10 Ball Championship took a major step toward professional attire. I thank Badi Nazhat for setting the standard and hope others will follow.

The bottom line is if they want the pros to look professional, in addition to dress pants and long sleeve shirt, require vests on everyone that plays.

Of course the electronic devices should be banned from competition. That doesn't even have to be discussed.

My question is, should the same standards be applied to amateur events? If so, why? If not, why?

JoeyA
 
JoeyA:

Once again, are you referring to ear buds (for music), or ear plugs (to filter external/ambient sound)? (There's a difference, and the impetus for the question is your description of custom fitting, which usually only applies to ear plugs, not ear buds.)

Thoughts?
-Sean
 
JoeyA:

Once again, are you referring to ear buds (for music), or ear plugs (to filter external/ambient sound)? (There's a difference, and the impetus for the question is your description of custom fitting, which usually only applies to ear plugs, not ear buds.)

Thoughts?
-Sean

Sean,

I am referring to ear PLUGS
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, not ear buds.


Ear buds should be banned because people could conceivably use them as "advice buds" and that should be avoided at all costs.

I actually believe music "ear buds" can cause communication problems. In addition to the filter caused by the ear buds, they also have additional music being pumped in at different levels, which could easily prevent one from communicating properly, in addition to the possibility that they could be getting advice from a pal.

JoeyA
 
???? I can ignore it in the presence of ambient noise. But with ear plugs, I cannot block out the tinnitus.

Good for you. I wish that worked for me.

Played league last night and forgot my ear protection. Last night into this morning the ringing in my ears is at least 2x. It's the crack of a break, the piercing ping of a hard hit shot when I've got my head in a certain direction. I can't say if my service time caused it or if my choice of occupation was to blame but I can remember how loud it was inside those tanks and with being a pinsetter mechanic I've worked in an atmosphere of 105 - 110 decibels which is right on the cusp of IOSHA requirements for wearing ear protection. Though it would have been in my best interest to wear protection, I chose not to. Some of my choices 40 years ago weren't the greatest. When I play horseshoes or use a hammer without ear plugs I deal with a level of ringing I wouldn't wish on anybody. My use is only in physical defense.
 
Played league last night and forgot my ear protection. Last night into this morning the ringing in my ears is at least 2x. It's the crack of a break, the piercing ping of a hard hit shot when I've got my head in a certain direction. I can't say if my service time caused it or if my choice of occupation was to blame but I can remember how loud it was inside those tanks and with being a pinsetter mechanic I've worked in an atmosphere of 105 - 110 decibels which is right on the cusp of IOSHA requirements for wearing ear protection. Though it would have been in my best interest to wear protection, I chose not to. Some of my choices 40 years ago weren't the greatest. When I play horseshoes or use a hammer without ear plugs I deal with a level of ringing I wouldn't wish on anybody. My use is only in physical defense.

Make sure, you get you VA card and claim your hearing loss from your service days. It will benefit you one day. ( you earned it ) BTW, thank you for your service.

JoeyA
 
Played league last night and forgot my ear protection. Last night into this morning the ringing in my ears is at least 2x. It's the crack of a break, the piercing ping of a hard hit shot when I've got my head in a certain direction. I can't say if my service time caused it or if my choice of occupation was to blame but I can remember how loud it was inside those tanks and with being a pinsetter mechanic I've worked in an atmosphere of 105 - 110 decibels which is right on the cusp of IOSHA requirements for wearing ear protection. Though it would have been in my best interest to wear protection, I chose not to. Some of my choices 40 years ago weren't the greatest. When I play horseshoes or use a hammer without ear plugs I deal with a level of ringing I wouldn't wish on anybody. My use is only in physical defense.

Having tended bar for 14 yrs of my life in four different states, from discos to Breweries to pool rooms, if its loud, bev nap in your ear works just fine. My hearing at 64 is perfect, unless I don't like U.
 
Example:

John Mora was playing Charlie Williams. John Schmidt and another guy were sitting behind Williams and chatting, not so discreetly, while John was at the table running out. John runs a few racks and before he breaks, stops, politely looks at Charlie and says, "You've been talking (to them) since this match started." Mora kept running out and Charlie kept talking.

If we were able to wear soft ear plugs, this would alleviate the acute anxiety caused by someone being disrespectful/oblivious, but would not greatly diminish communication. As stated by a previous poster, the soft malleable ear plugs do not hinder communication. I've been wearing them as I gamble for over 15 years. Quite often, my outcome, as well as my enjoyment playing pool is determined by my ability to quiet my mind and concentrate within myself. I think better, feel better, have a better time.

Some of us just don't like to be bothered with other people, but like or need the competition of others to meet certain goals. I can't get in action (which I enjoy) without going to the pool hall with +97% of the people not being real (money) pool players. They don't know, they just want to drink and bang balls. There is Karaoke playing at 100% volume and I'm trying to play $200 a game one pocket. These are non-pool players that are not being disrespectful, it's just the environment. This issue is solved simply with a soft pair of ear plugs.

At the US 1pocket there were two guys in the stand talking full blast for 20 minutes. 4 spectators had to tell them to hush multiple times. They never did. They were 8 feet from the rail.

At the US 10b, there were these two older ladies, obviously wives of two devoted pool players, that didn't shut the hell up for the entire match.

At the US 8b, there were two old spanish guys that were on their cell phones and talking the whole time.

I played in the Open 9ball and the Open 8ball. My first(only) match in the 9 ball the guy was talking to his 4 buddies the entire match as I shot. There are rules against this in the bca rule book, just as I'm sure there are rules about this in the pro events regarding direct competitors.

If I was playing in any of these pro events, and if I would have had the opportunity to wear soft ear plugs in my BCA events, I certainly would. 100%. I am inconvenienced by unexpected disturbances much more than I would be hindered by compromised communication.

I have a custom made pair of hard ear plugs (like JoeyA's picture). I understand the concept of a remote "coach" shooting messages to the player. But seriously, at the pro level if you have some guy telling you to "stay down", "dont move your head", "slow your backstroke and pause" or to "get the balls off the short rails first", then you are not going to win a match anyway. I could have Mike Sigel in my ear, but would still need 100 points racing to 120 playing Thorston.

UGH. So, ok, soft ear plugs YES, ipods I don't give a f### about.
 
I have seen a few players using ear plugs of some kind when playing a match.
I think it looks stupid and if they are concearned about audiance noise, they should get a proper ref that has the balls to tell people to shut up or leave.
In snooker this seems to work fine.
 
I have seen a few players using ear plugs of some kind when playing a match.
I think it looks stupid and if they are concearned about audiance noise, they should get a proper ref that has the balls to tell people to shut up or leave.
In snooker this seems to work fine.

While ear plugs and even hearing aids might look stupid to some they both accomplish two important jobs. To me, ear plugs are so small, you have to look closely to see if someone is wearing them, same with a hearing aid. I don't pay much attention to hearing aids or ear plugs.

Now on the other hand, show me a pool player with ear buds and long wires hanging all over their body and to me that looks stupid. :D Still, I understand why they wear them and it too accomplishes a couple of things for them.

Unfortunately, not enough refs at most tournaments to quiet the cackling birds and not enough money in pool to hire more.

Like you, I believe the referees could be more demonstrative in singling out those who lose their common sense, or those who purposefully antagonize the players for whatever reason with their irritating chatter, or who don't know better than to chatter right next to where competition is going on.

Like you, I believe the refs that are there, could take a more rigid stand in regards to rail birds who regularly entertain themselves by distracting the players. As others have pointed out, these people are at EVERY tournament. Some are innocent enough and just don't realize what they are doing and a sharp but polite disapproval by a ref would increase the awareness of those who aren't aware and make them cognizant of their chatter in the future. For others who would purposefully distract the players, the door is the only thing that should be shown to them.


JoeyA
 
Me personally, I dont mind if someone wanted to wear ear plugs or even head phones. Music can help people stay focused and be energized.
 
First of all, whoever posted that pool should be a man's game --- I've got news for you: It already is, which is clearly one of it's main problems.

Next, if tournament and league administration, pool room management, and referees would do their jobs properly, there would be no need for ear plugs.

A tournament or league is only as good as the people who run it.
 
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