Dechaine quits out of turn!

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So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.
 
POVPOOL said:
So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.
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Bad move on MS's part. We have all seen crazy stuff happen and easy shots missed. However If I was Corey I would have gladly taken the win.
 
Dennis Orcullo did the same thing to Max Eberle in the SBE (?, I think) Bigfoot 14.1 final match. Yeah, I know...a win is a win, but I think it's poor sportsmanship to concede when your opponent is so close to closing out the match (I think Max was 7-8 balls away from winning).
 
If someone wants to quit, they should be able to do it at any time. I don't see a problem.

Edited to add: unless someone was on a high run and they interupted something that would have been good spectator entertainment.
 
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One more reason why I am building a 'dislike' of him.

He shoots well but he is building some bad rep. (opening for a personal slur by those that do that)

He's young, but not that young. It is looking more & more to me that he just lacks something 'inside'.

I hope he works things out & finds his way to a better place, because he has talent.
 
If someone wants to throw a temper tantrum and quit against me, feel free to do so at any time.

MD has a long way to go.
 
Mike's choice. We weren't there, in his shoes. Mike has to answer to his own. It does sound weak tho, eh?
 
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Hmmm...well maybe the sharking move worked when Cory ordered food when Mike was up and running on him in the middle of the match?

Who orders food in the middle of a match?



This came from Mike------->


This is getting pretty tough. I'm up 70-80 something to 12 on a good run. The guy orders food in the middle of my run. Really?!?!
 
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Someone posted that Mike missed a ball in hand. If I needed less than a rack to win, had ball in hand and missed, I think I'd be a bit mad at myself and just concede the game.

I have done this a few times when missing an easy shot in 9 or 10 ball even when there were 2-3 balls on the table.
 
poolguy4u said:
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Hmmm...well maybe the sharking move worked when Cory ordered food when Mike was up and running on him in the middle of the match?

Who orders food in the middle of a match?



This came from Mike------->


This is getting pretty tough. I'm up 70-80 something to 12 on a good run. The guy orders food in the middle of my run. Really?!?!
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Mental toughness and focus are a part of athletic (if pool is such...) competition.

Weak excuse.
 
poolguy4u said:
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Hmmm...well maybe the sharking move worked when Cory ordered food when Mike was up and running on him in the middle of the match?

Who orders food in the middle of a match?



This came from Mike------->


This is getting pretty tough. I'm up 70-80 something to 12 on a good run. The guy orders food in the middle of my run. Really?!?!
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That sh1t makes me hungry just thinking about it. Gonna make me some beanless chilli (yes TWheels, I gots extra).
 
Birriards said:
Mental toughness and focus are a part of athletic (if pool is such...) competition.

Weak excuse.
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But so is not doing silly stuff to break the other player's concetration in sports like pool. I'd like to see Kasperov order some Chicken Nuggets in the middle of a chess match and see what happenes LOL
 
Definitely a strange decision on Mike's part, but I have no problem with the timing of the concession.
 
bdorman said:
Dennis Orcullo did the same thing to Max Eberle in the SBE (?, I think) Bigfoot 14.1 final match. Yeah, I know...a win is a win, but I think it's poor sportsmanship to concede when your opponent is so close to closing out the match (I think Max was 7-8 balls away from winning).
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It was at this year's Derby City 14.1 Challenge. Max was at 83 and shooting; Dennis was at 54 and more interested in watching Alex play 9-Ball. So Max needed more than a full rack when Dennis quit.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Someone posted that Mike missed a ball in hand. If I needed less than a rack to win, had ball in hand and missed, I think I'd be a bit mad at myself and just concede the game.

I have done this a few times when missing an easy shot in 9 or 10 ball even when there were 2-3 balls on the table.
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BIH behind the head string in straight pool. It wasn't a hanger in this case.;)

BTW why should Mike always be the heavy? Corey ordering food and wanting to eat it while MD was on a run? Pretty lame move IMO. And as far as getting mad, Corey practically broke his stick when he was about to scratch just before that. It sounded like he may have cracked it.

If Earl did that the whole pool world would be hating on him. It was worse sportsmanship than Dechaine conceding after a tough miss which left a certain runout for Corey laying on the table. MD wouldn't have conceded if he really thought he'd have a chance back at the table.

Anyway, I like both players. They were both playing poorly for most of the match, drilling shots in and missing balls because of it. I'm just glad it's over, it was painful to see 14.1 played that way.
 
This is one of the reasons pool sucks and stays in tge gutter. Which it always will stay.
The pros want everything, to make all the rules, demands, etc. But they never want to act like PROS.
They will never get REAL sponsors. They should never quit nor be allowed to, if they are beating some amateur they are in heaven talkin about how good they are playin. Then they lose to someone thier equal or better and they whine like asses about how bad they played.

PRO jackoffs is more like it.
 
POVPOOL said:
So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.
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its called pride and poor sportsmanship.................. figures
 
bdorman said:
Dennis Orcullo did the same thing to Max Eberle in the SBE (?, I think) Bigfoot 14.1 final match. Yeah, I know...a win is a win, but I think it's poor sportsmanship to concede when your opponent is so close to closing out the match (I think Max was 7-8 balls away from winning).
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Really not a similar situation. Here's what I posted just after watching Dennis Orcullo's concession to Max:

sjm said:
I was watching the match when Orcullo conceded and some context may be necessary here.

Some information that should be considered here:

1) Max was well ahead and was very likely heading for victory. Orcullo obviously knew it, as did others in attendance.
2) From the straight pool arena, one could look down and watch the action on the TV table.
3) Dennis, quite keen on watching the final in which his close friend Alex Pagulayan was competing for the nine ball title, watched Alex's match between his turns, and I think, win or lose, he was hoping the 14.1 match would conclude promptly.
4) Dennis already had close to $25,000 in the bank at the Derby, most of which he won by taking first place in the 10-ball event, so the $1,000 difference between winning and losing the 14.1 final was not as big a deal as it might seem.
5) Max was playing slowly and presided over a very difficult position at 83-54 ahead for quite a long time when Dennis conceded.
6) Dennis won his semifinal on Friday night and waited around all day for Niels to be eliminated from the nine ball, after which Max and Niels would play their semifinal. The 14.1 final should not have started that late and Dennis' impatience was hardly a surprise.
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Hence, the were extenuating circumstances surrounding Dennis' concession.
In addition, Max needed seventeen more balls.

Far more similar to this was John Schmidt's concession to Niels Feijen after a miss with Niels needing eighteen. I believe, but I'm not certain, that this was in the quarterfinal of the then WPA sanctioned 2007 World 14,1 Championship.

At the US Open 10-ball event this July at the Rio, Lee Vann Corteza conceded to Chris Bartram trailing 8-3 in the race to 9. Rack 12 of that match never even begun!

Even great players, and Dechaine is certainly a great one, concede occasionally. We'd all prefer that they didn't, but if happens.

Hopefully, there was no Calcutta!
 
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