T.O.I thanks CJ

[cool_hand_ljb]

I finally got off second and was able to play league here in Topeka again. I was a little unconfident at first as I have not played league since November. I am a hi 9 in bca and was playing a good 8, he is very capable of running a table, so I didn't want my rust to let the team down. I won the first but wasn't confident, he won the second then broke and ren to the 8 and missed (woo hoo for me). He scratched in the process so I was going to run to a safety, no confidence. One of my team mates called a t.o. and told me to shoot the shot I was avoiding( table length cut 4" from the 8) so I did leaving the eight open near the pocket if missed. I just said f#@& it and shot it with authority and drilled it. Went on to run the next rack making three tough breakouts. The more I shot the harder and more confidently I shot beating him 46 to 26. Making breakouts I would have never tried before. I owe it to your toi so thank you.
Now when are you coming out with the banking anf advanced toi dvds? Hopefully soon...lol :thumbup:
Thanks again CJ u da man

 

[CJ Wiley]

more than a system or technique, it's a way of channeling the {pure} Game

I finally got off second and was able to play league here in Topeka again. I was a little unconfident at first as I have not played league since November. I am a hi 9 in bca and was playing a good 8, he is very capable of running a table, so I didn't want my rust to let the team down. I won the first but wasn't confident, he won the second then broke and ren to the 8 and missed (woo hoo for me). He scratched in the process so I was going to run to a safety, no confidence. One of my team mates called a t.o. and told me to shoot the shot I was avoiding( table length cut 4" from the 8) so I did leaving the eight open near the pocket if missed. I just said f#@& it and shot it with authority and drilled it. Went on to run the next rack making three tough breakouts. The more I shot the harder and more confidently I shot beating him 46 to 26. Making breakouts I would have never tried before. I owe it to your toi so thank you.
Now when are you coming out with the banking anf advanced toi dvds? Hopefully soon...lol :thumbup:
Thanks again CJ u da man

I appreciate that my friend, and you have the Game to thank, the Game is my Teacher, and now "It" is yours.

The one thing that continues to be apparent is the difference between the TOI Game and the "Conventional Game" of pool. It's been passed down from generation to generation that you look at the table and choose the "best" speed, that gets you the "best" position, with the "best" angle.

I know now that I was kidding myself (when I came back after a long lay off) to think I "knew what was best".....that's why I always put myself in "The Zone" to play, and I used to say (and believe) if the cue ball didn't go where I wanted it to, it went somewhere better. This proved true time after time, almost by magic{the magic of the unconscious mind}.

In "The Zone" I had stopped trying to force my opinions and calculations on the Game, instead, allowing the Game to show/communicate the correct shot. The touch of inside somehow connects us to the game at a deeper level. It's at this level that we experience "becoming the cue ball."

When we start to understand the TOI Game all of this changes, the Game shows us the shot, and there's really no choices or calculations to make. This is why I have to play this way, because the "traditional" way does not connect me, as a matter of fact I feel disconnected at times.

I don't want to think, and make decisions very much in a pool game, I just want to play...it's like the difference between a musician playing by notes or playing by ear, I prefer for the "music to play through me," and this is exactly what it feels like when tapped in to the TOI Game.... more than a system or technique, it's a way of channeling the {pure} Game.

If this information sounds "to good to be true," just put it on a {mental} shelf, and keep it available, it may come in useful one day. 'The Game is the Teacher'

 

[fathomblue]

I finally got off second and was able to play league here in Topeka again. I was a little unconfident at first as I have not played league since November. I am a hi 9 in bca and was playing a good 8, he is very capable of running a table, so I didn't want my rust to let the team down. I won the first but wasn't confident, he won the second then broke and ren to the 8 and missed (woo hoo for me). He scratched in the process so I was going to run to a safety, no confidence. One of my team mates called a t.o. and told me to shoot the shot I was avoiding( table length cut 4" from the 8) so I did leaving the eight open near the pocket if missed. I just said f#@& it and shot it with authority and drilled it. Went on to run the next rack making three tough breakouts. The more I shot the harder and more confidently I shot beating him 46 to 26. Making breakouts I would have never tried before. I owe it to your toi so thank you.
Now when are you coming out with the banking anf advanced toi dvds? Hopefully soon...lol :thumbup:
Thanks again CJ u da man

Sounds like TOI is coming around for you. Every day that I shoot with it, I walk away with a good feeling. Sometimes it feels like a rollercoaster ride, as I'm still learning. Occasionally, if my confidence falters, I won't trust the method and I'll miss a few shots I shouldn't. But, it seems like once I really get it dialed in for a particular session, it's golden. And once my confidence starts to surge, then it's off to the races. Then the fun factor is the thru the roof.

 

[One Pocket John]

Sounds like TOI is coming around for you. Every day that I shoot with it, I walk away with a good feeling. Sometimes it feels like a rollercoaster ride, as I'm still learning. Occasionally, if my confidence falters, I won't trust the method and I'll miss a few shots I shouldn't. But, it seems like once I really get it dialed in for a particular session, it's golden. And once my confidence starts to surge, then it's off to the races. The the fun factor is the thru the roof.

One of the best attributes of TOI is you never turn the QB loose. You have to literally PUT it where you want it to go.

Its fun but requires a ton of practice because the game is played so much differently than what I am use to.

Its a valuable tool. :smile:

John

 

[CJ Wiley]

Making all these tough banks and describing the TIP System at the same time

Sounds like TOI is coming around for you. Every day that I shoot with it, I walk away with a good feeling. Sometimes it feels like a rollercoaster ride, as I'm still learning. Occasionally, if my confidence falters, I won't trust the method and I'll miss a few shots I shouldn't. But, it seems like once I really get it dialed in for a particular session, it's golden. And once my confidence starts to surge, then it's off to the races. Then the fun factor is the thru the roof.

You're getting to the level of shooting the same shot every time, it's especially effective in one pocket. I've shot so many banks lately making this new video my TOI is getting super fine tuned. Making all these tough banks and describing the TIP System at the same time is more pressure than betting a thousand a game for me. 'The Inner Game is the Teacher'

 

[CJ Wiley]

.THANKS, that really filled in something for me, John!

One of the best attributes of TOI is you never turn the QB loose. You have to literally PUT it where you want it to go.

Its fun but requires a ton of practice because the game is played so much differently than what I am use to.

Its a valuable tool. :smile:

John

I watched that "Push Video" and tried applying it with the Hammer Release and WOW, what a combination that made for a drill. The combination of these three really made an immediate improvement in an aspect of my own game that wan't quite right.....and now it's "dead on"..then when I applied the TOI with my regular stroke it was "Golden"...THANKS, that really filled in something for me, John!

Now to combine the "Push" with the "Sword" :groucho:

 

[One Pocket John]

I watched that "Push Video" and tried applying it with the Hammer Release and WOW, what a combination that made for a drill. The combination of these three really made an immediate improvement in an aspect of my own game that wan't quite right.....and now it's "dead on"..then when I applied the TOI with my regular stroke it was "Golden"...THANKS, that really filled in something for me, John!

Now to combine the "Push" with the "Sword" :groucho:

Unbelievable! I actually helped someone. :smile:

Yeah, that "Push Video" has really helped my stroke. It was real awkward at first. What helped me was your tip "just push the tip of the cue away from you" pretty simple stuff.

Thanks

John

 

[West Point 1987]

Unbelievable! I actually helped someone. :smile:

Yeah, that "Push Video" has really helped my stroke. It was real awkward at first. What helped me was your tip "just push the tip of the cue away from you" pretty simple stuff.

Thanks

John

Nice find, John...I find that keeping my stroke line through the CB to the contact point was when TOI works best for me...this push video drill shows me what is ACTUALLY happening when my TOI is on and when it's not...this drill is a keeper; thanks!!! :thumbup:

 

[obrien714]

push video

Where is this PUSH video you speak of located?

 

[West Point 1987]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTabuqWIZc

I don't subscribe to what he's saying about follow through per se, but the drill of pushing the ball toward and into the pocket is very valueable for pulling stroke, TOI and acceleration through the CB together very well. Pay attention to your stroke when you do it and back up further away as you try it again and again. Then add the CB. After a few push shots, go back to a true stroke and...pretty slick!

 

[One Pocket John]

Nice find, John...I find that keeping my stroke line through the CB to the contact point was when TOI works best for me...this push video drill shows me what is ACTUALLY happening when my TOI is on and when it's not...this drill is a keeper; thanks!!! :thumbup:

NP Bill.

Thanks for the very, very detailed write on the Hammer Stroke.

I push the cue forward and you pull the cue forward. Nice to have options. :smile:

The trick to doing this drill is to remember to push/pull the cue forward and try to keep the tip in contact with the ball to your end of stroke. Use different cue stick speeds, real slow, slow, medium then fast. You will be surprised.

John

 

[fathomblue]

This is interesting. I'll have to try it.

 

[CJ Wiley]

"The Hammer Push".....hmmm

Unbelievable! I actually helped someone. :smile:

Yeah, that "Push Video" has really helped my stroke. It was real awkward at first. What helped me was your tip "just push the tip of the cue away from you" pretty simple stuff.

Thanks

John

Yes, I cue the TIP to where the cue ball hits the cloth, then raise it up to the center and use the hammer release to push the cue ball. This is something I've been teaching a different way to give students the feeling of the Hammer Release. This is a great combination, sometimes it takes several ways to get the right response.

"The Hammer Push".....hmmm

 

[rubell]

Yes, I cue the TIP to where the cue ball hits the cloth, then raise it up to the center and use the hammer release to push the cue ball. This is something I've been teaching a different way to give students the feeling of the Hammer Release. This is a great combination, sometimes it takes several ways to get the right response.

"The Hammer Push".....hmmm

CJ. I would like to thank you for giving all this information.

TOI is amazing!

Today is the first time where I was able to apply TOI very consciously and I saw results just few minutes after trying.

Every time when I undercut, it was because I pivoted, so I just corrected myself and the ball went straight to the pocket the next time. When I overcut, the ball was pocketed anyway. It is a magic.

And getting to a trance and pocketing without thinking is addictive. After randomly placing balls on the table I woke up by catching myself there are no any balls left at the table.

You were right, my stroke was not consistent and nothing would work without it.

Also, your last email where you answered my question helped me a lot, it helped me to understand both the mechanics and the essence of the method.

Another thing that helped me to actually apply TOI is when I achieved a certain level of ability to pocket balls intuitively without thinking by connecting the position to the aiming line. After that adding something on top (TOI in this case) was much easier. I knew exactly where to aim, what strength to apply and where to hit the cue ball. Thanks to your Ultimate course and training the foundation.

And finally your advise that pool is a feel game affected me a lot. Before going to a table I "calibrate" myself and try to get a feel of the table I am going to play.

Nick

 

[rubell]

By the way, it was a little scary to do it at first, but the brain figured out what to do and the balls went through.

 

[CJ Wiley]

I still remind myself to "let go" and "let it happen".

CJ. I would like to thank you for giving all this information.

TOI is amazing!

Today is the first time where I was able to apply TOI very consciously and I saw results just few minutes after trying.

Every time when I undercut, it was because I pivoted, so I just corrected myself and the ball went straight to the pocket the next time. When I overcut, the ball was pocketed anyway. It is a magic.

And getting to a trance and pocketing without thinking is addictive. After randomly placing balls on the table I woke up by catching myself there are no any balls left at the table.

You were right, my stroke was not consistent and nothing would work without it.

Also, your last email where you answered my question helped me a lot, it helped me to understand both the mechanics and the essence of the method.

Another thing that helped me to actually apply TOI is when I achieved a certain level of ability to pocket balls intuitively without thinking by connecting the position to the aiming line. After that adding something on top (TOI in this case) was much easier. I knew exactly where to aim, what strength to apply and where to hit the cue ball. Thanks to your Ultimate course and training the foundation.

And finally your advise that pool is a feel game affected me a lot. Before going to a table I "calibrate" myself and try to get a feel of the table I am going to play.

Nick

I"m glad you're having this immediate positive experience. Some people tend to over think the TOI and this almost guarantees problems. OF course it leads to problems in pool no matter what system or technique you use, the mind can be a great friend, or a cunning enemy.

I still remind myself to "let go" and "let it happen".....this is the ultimate secret.

Play Well, my Friend, your Game is Your Teacher'

 

[CJ Wiley]

shooting off the rail and close to the rail.

Where is this PUSH video you speak of located?

I really recommend experimenting with this push drill and find it really beneficial for me shooting off the rail and close to the rail. Also "jacked up" shots are good to practice pushing.....combining the push with the hammer style release has become a part of my daily regiment.....and of course I still use the sword for stroke strengthening.

 

[One Pocket John]

What may help some folks to feel the Hammer Push is to try to slide the cue ball to the contact point on the object ball keeping the tip of the cue in contact with the cue ball to your end of stroke. This is what you want to feel with your grip hand.

The pros are pushing/sliding the QB, they are not hitting/punching it.

Have fun :smile:

John

 

[CJ Wiley]

I like to feel the acceleration in my right hand and fingers

What may help some folks to feel the Hammer Push is to try to slide the cue ball to the contact point on the object ball keeping the tip of the cue in contact with the cue ball to your end of stroke. This is what you want to feel with your grip hand.

The pros are pushing/sliding the QB, they are not hitting/punching it.

Have fun :smile:

John

Yes, and I like to feel the acceleration in my right hand and fingers ....that's where the feedback from the shot is strongest. I have ways to ehance the feedback in each individual finger seperately so you can decide which one you want directly behind the "line of the shot".....I show this drill in my 'Billiards Inside Secrets' at www.cjwiley.com

 

[CJ Wiley]

This drill will make a nice difference in one's ability to shoot off the rail ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTabuqWIZc

I don't subscribe to what he's saying about follow through per se, but the drill of pushing the ball toward and into the pocket is very valueable for pulling stroke, TOI and acceleration through the CB together very well. Pay attention to your stroke when you do it and back up further away as you try it again and again. Then add the CB. After a few push shots, go back to a true stroke and...pretty slick!

Yes, the push drill is best done with an accelerated follow through. I like setting all 15 balls up, each about two inches from the rail and go around the table "pushing" them in.

This drill will make a nice difference in one's ability to shoot off the rail, that's for sure.