Ive always assumed the eyes start outside and move inside for thick a cut.
Eye's start inside move outside for thinner cuts.Makes since.:smile:
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Ive always assumed the eyes start outside and move inside for thick a cut.
Eye's start inside move outside for thinner cuts.Makes since.:smile:
You have your sweeps reversed!! Your Outside sweep is actually an Inside sweep,meaning (Inside to Outside) which would be a left to right pivot, which thins the cut! And your Inside sweep is an Outside sweep,meaning (Outside to Inside) which would be a right to left pivot, which thickens the cut!!
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You guys that use pro1, could you give me your visuals on this video.
Not sure if what im doing is the same ,just want to compare notes.
Thanks Anthony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIbozmbSC2w&feature=youtu.be
Not sure if what im doing is the same ,just want to compare notes.
Thanks Anthony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIbozmbSC2w&feature=youtu.be
Stan,
I am sure I do not have intent to discredit the system but I am having the same question. I think this is the key question in the whole system!!!!!! Satori asks very relevant questions in order to understand.
You wrote:
> That's correct but what's important is that one's focal point at ball address match their visual alignment during full stance. CTE PRO ONE does not limit any one in any way from having to perceive the visuals from a specific location.
Can you please elaborate on it?
Also, is the "right" picture you are seeing exactly the same for any shot? I mean the same, having exactly the same angles (lengths of course will differ depending on the distance between the balls)
(let's call it case I) or it is slightly different (since eye position is different) and with a practice the shooter connects a unique (meaning different in each case) picture to each position on the table and is able to pocket the balls and with time the shooter is getting natural and after some time the shooter can understand what is the "right" position even if not played a position before (let's call it case II).
I tried to be as exact as possible in my question and be careful in my definitions, hope it is easy to understand what I asking.So, is it I or II?
The last question is what is center of the ball? You mentioned it is center axis. But axis is a line. How to connect it to an edge of the object ball? Is the "center" actually the center of the sphere, locating inside of the ball? Or where is it located? If I am not behind the CTE line all these points are different. Some of them will not change with my eye movement, some will giving me a different result.
The rest of the system is easy to understand but I believe answering these questions will reveal the essence of the method.
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Nick,
I just noticed last night that you could see what Lou meant in reference to his review, if one can even dignify IT as a review. Then you promptly referenced that you do not like cults... That was about me and what I teach. I understand your game! Let me be very clear about my stance.
For the record all of your inquiries have been more than adequately answered. I have been consistent in my presentation for 3 or so years. My words are NOT going to change.
[For those that are interested, DVD2 will allow any serious student to profoundly deepen their understanding of CTE aiming.]
Also, during the course of your posting you have:
Found the system to work
Then it's false alarm
Then you found worms
Then you validated the system to work with various cut angles using the same visuals and movement to shot.
Now you are lost...
You have clearly been negative with me and CTE!
Since your questions have been answered in DVD 1, in my AZ postings and in my support videos, I feel that I owe you nothing, particularly after your CULT comment.
There are members on this board, that if they so choose, can support me in what I have said.
Stan Shuffett
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You do not make any sense on your the cults comment. How CTE Pro1 or just one person can be a cult? I was referring to an atmosphere within CTE Pro1 threads where people were being accused with trolling or been lazy or something else while they were just trying to understand the method or were upset to be treated badly.
At that time I evaluated your responses as autocratic, that's true, that's how I saw them at that time. At the same time I mentioned I did not accuse you of anything unethical. It's ok that we are different. I do not see people just in white or black colors.
On the 3 ball pair experiment, if you read it carefully, I've mentioned that it requires much more work than few minutes to fully understand and master the method. So, after some time I realized my original questions were very important for better understanding the system. So, instead of asking the same questions over and over again in case if they were answered before, I decided to read old threads and then found that some one asked them but I do not see answers there. I do not see neither 8pack nor Satori tried to mock you or anything. These are all legit questions I (and I am sure others) have in my mind too.
I mentioned you I have a feeling that there is a wall after which nobody dares to answer questions and once again instead of getting answers I am being accused of something.
There is one powerful technique used in a learning process, when a student tries to paraphrase and say the same thing differently, so the teacher can correct and say where it is wrong and how it is right.
Yes, you are right. You do not owe me anything, I though people discuss pool because they like to, not because they owe to someone or have to.
Again, I am not negative. I am curious.
At that time I evaluated your responses as autocratic, that's true, that's how I saw them at that time. At the same time I mentioned I did not accuse you of anything unethical. It's ok that we are different. I do not see people just in white or black colors.
On the 3 ball pair experiment, if you read it carefully, I've mentioned that it requires much more work than few minutes to fully understand and master the method. So, after some time I realized my original questions were very important for better understanding the system. So, instead of asking the same questions over and over again in case if they were answered before, I decided to read old threads and then found that some one asked them but I do not see answers there. I do not see neither 8pack nor Satori tried to mock you or anything. These are all legit questions I (and I am sure others) have in my mind too.
I mentioned you I have a feeling that there is a wall after which nobody dares to answer questions and once again instead of getting answers I am being accused of something.
There is one powerful technique used in a learning process, when a student tries to paraphrase and say the same thing differently, so the teacher can correct and say where it is wrong and how it is right.
Yes, you are right. You do not owe me anything, I though people discuss pool because they like to, not because they owe to someone or have to.
Again, I am not negative. I am curious.
Stan,
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My answers have been put forth. I could answer your questions again with different wording and you still would not be satisfied.
DVD2 will be out soon. Also , I will continue to add to my support video list.bif want to learn CTE, you can.
And NOT a very good job of explaining away your reference to cult that was clearly directed at me and CTE. You joined cult and autocratic behavior with the conjunction AND. So you do not like my autocratic behavior and cult had nothing to do with any reference of me.
Stan Shuffett
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I want to make a stronger statement about 8pack, Satori or even Pat (he did not participate in the thread though and belongs to a different category, not bad but different).
If I ever come up with an aiming system and try to promote it, I would welcome everyone to look at it, make its critical analysis, try it, ask questions, challenge it, find limitations, correct it, try to understand the truth and the essence of it.
The day that would really upset me, if nobody had problems with it and everyone just nodded their heads. Then I would ask myself, are these guys really listening to me and understand what I say or they are just repeating whatever I say and agree? Did I explain it intelligibly?
If I ever come up with an aiming system and try to promote it, I would welcome everyone to look at it, make its critical analysis, try it, ask questions, challenge it, find limitations, correct it, try to understand the truth and the essence of it.
The day that would really upset me, if nobody had problems with it and everyone just nodded their heads. Then I would ask myself, are these guys really listening to me and understand what I say or they are just repeating whatever I say and agree? Did I explain it intelligibly?
Stan, I mixed few words in the same sentence. Sorry, if it upset you. My stance is clear.
1. You've been studying this method for many years, so I assume you know what you know what you are talking about and I trust you. That's why I ask YOU the questions. I am 100% positive you know CTE Pro1 very well.
2. There are students here on the forum who personally met you, took some lessons from you and like what you did. So, I am not questioning that, or the method.
3. However, with all information I have, I feel I need to know more in order to understand it and be able to use it properly.
I do not know what answers with other wordings you have but I tend to think if these questions are answered, I shall have much better understanding. I really do. I am not an unreasonably detail oriented. Once I am able to try what you say, I am satisfied, I do not need someone to say anymore. I am not fighting anything. I just really want to know.
1. You've been studying this method for many years, so I assume you know what you know what you are talking about and I trust you. That's why I ask YOU the questions. I am 100% positive you know CTE Pro1 very well.
2. There are students here on the forum who personally met you, took some lessons from you and like what you did. So, I am not questioning that, or the method.
3. However, with all information I have, I feel I need to know more in order to understand it and be able to use it properly.
I do not know what answers with other wordings you have but I tend to think if these questions are answered, I shall have much better understanding. I really do. I am not an unreasonably detail oriented. Once I am able to try what you say, I am satisfied, I do not need someone to say anymore. I am not fighting anything. I just really want to know.
It took me 6 months of dedicated work and by work I mean table time to become proficient in Pro One. The system cannot be learned through words - pick up the DVD if you haven't, work the reference shots and drive yourself to learn - you get out of this what you put in.
CTE Pro One has changed my game forever - eagerly awaiting DVD2 Stan.
Keep up the great work.
Gerry
CTE Pro One has changed my game forever - eagerly awaiting DVD2 Stan.
Keep up the great work.
Gerry
Gerry, I believe CTE cannot be learned through words only, but we need initial words to understand what to do for the next X moths in order to be proficient. I already narrowed questions to main one-two questions. Without answering them, it is hard to understand what to do at the table. Sure I will pocket better, but will it be CTE Pro1 or hit a million balls method, since I do not know if what I do is CTE?
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Maybe it is hard to believe but in my world asking questions is not offensive, I do not see a threat when someone asks me a question. To doubt what I say when I explain something is not a threat for me. To perform a critical analysis on what I teach or what I do is not an offense in my profession. It is a norm of life. I expect it. As I told I would be concerned if it did not happen. It would mean something was wrong.
That's maybe why you think I am (and some others) negative to you or CTE or some people side with others to hurt you, etc.
That's maybe why you think I am (and some others) negative to you or CTE or some people side with others to hurt you, etc.
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