apa question

[mcsock]

The normal LO vig is 50% of league fees. Rest go back to players in many ways, trophies, event prize money, entery fees to natl. etc.
They do not need to run a pyramid of any kind. Big areas with lots of teams, the LO make out well. The thing I do not understand, why so many LO go out of their way to piss off the players?

 

[justadub]

The normal LO vig is 50% of league fees. Rest go back to players in many ways, trophies, event prize money, entery fees to natl. etc.
They do not need to run a pyramid of any kind. Big areas with lots of teams, the LO make out well. The thing I do not understand, why so many LO go out of their way to piss off the players?

To be fair, some of the crap that LO's have to deal with is amazing. Remember, there isn't much more miserable and whiny than a pool player. (In many cases.) The questions I field for my LO amaze me, and we have a relatively benign division... I'm a retail manager, so I have some experience with this stuff

They shouldn't go out of their way to treat their customers poorly. I agree. Sometimes the whole context is missing, regarding what the players might have said and/or done in their interaction with the LO.

And some are likely poor business people.

 

[j_zippel]

apa question of the week! A player who broke her shoulder a few months back came back to play and was playing right and left handed. She's an apa 2 and trust me she isn't sand bagging lol but her shoulder hurt her to much to play all night. She was told by the apa operators that playing with both left and righty is against the rules and they she has to pick one or the other or be disqualified? Big surprise..no one can seem to find it in the rules

On another fun note we got screwed in 9 bal tri-cups by two players getting raised when we were already short players causing us to forfeit. Get to leagues last night and surprise surprise they lowered them both back to there other number. The increase didn't make sense..they won close matches and the decrease doesn't make any because they won and lost close matches after increased lol

Maybe they were upset because after them insisting that the great equalizer system made every match even a friend who only played apa for a short time in the past questioned why they needed the 23 rule. I mean if every match is equal then I should be able to have 5 9's and it shouldn't matter.. The only reason I can see to have the 23 rule is to force teams to break up and get new players for the league ? lol I guess that struck a nerve

this is the main reason i no longer play CPA. You can never keep a social night team together with the same group of friends. Tap baby

 

[CreeDo]

our league operators will tell you that every body should have about a 500 winning percentage because there system makes every match a coin flip. lol

I don't get what the problem here is. The coin flip is exactly what the goal is.
And most League Operators understand that and will tell you point blank.
Nobody's lying or hiding anything.

I was told that over 10 years ago when I first played in the APA
and at the time I hated it because I didn't understand.
I thought "Fair" meant the better player always wins.
I cried and complained when I lost to a 2.

I wasn't aware of the second definition of "Fair" which is that everyone has an equal chance to win.
AKA everyone's win rate will balance out to about 50%.

It took me a few years to really get it and to understand it's a good thing.
It keeps the lower level players happy and keeps the league healthy.

And the handicapping DOES work if you're questioning that.
Look at the stats on your team website.
There will be exceptions (9's that can string 5 packs, 1's that can go 6 games
without making a single ball) but for the most part, the players average out to 50%.

This is my team, other than the 9 and the 1:
APA 3: 51% after 232 matches
APA 5: 55% after 139 matches
APA 6: 54% after 72 matches
APA 6: 58% after 158 matches
APA 2: 49% after 508 matches
APA 2: 50% after 4 matches