**SVB - wins both rotation events at Derby **

Only goes to show that even the best player in the world can get knocked out early..... (ALL) top players have been knocked out early in tournys in their careers. (ALL OF THEM) Shane is still the man to beat here on earth!
 
Only goes to show that even the best player in the world can get knocked out early..... (ALL) top players have been knocked out early in tournys in their careers. (ALL OF THEM) Shane is still the man to beat here on earth!

i was supporting what BeiberLvr said - about SVB not strong when playing abroad.
 
he mde more than that.

Wow so Shane made $32,000 all together at the Derby, that's crazy, and that's Excluding any gambling wins outside of the tourney, and a couple hundred from the One pocket and banks. I wonder how much Dennis cashed all together, he topped nearly all events, and got master of the table, that's a pretty good payday.

He cashed in both banks and one pocket as well, so he made probably closer to $40K...

Jaden
 
Yeah, except they do [fair well in tournaments on US soil].

Plenty of non-Americans have traveled here in the past and won big events. Shoot, just look at what Orcollo did this year at Derby. Three top 5 finishes, including two wins.

Appleton and Mika won back to back US Opens. Oh, and don't forget how they came onto our turf, and f#%#@ us in the Mosconi Cup.

Listen, it's nothing against Shane. He's a great player, no matter the game, and no matter the race.

But the facts are that he struggles when he leaves the country.


Your right. It does not matter the game for SVB or the pinoys. The EUROS they can't play much of anything else. Oh, wait, snuuuuucker.
 
I wonder how much of an increase in sales TAR will generate after great performances this past week by both Shane and Efren.
 
What happened to the European players this year? did the Americans actually have a better showing at the derby than the Europeans? It's a good thing the Asians don't put together a Mosconi Cup Team.

The EUROS are one trik ponies. I've been saying it for years. They "pot" balls well, that's it. If they have to think(Onepocket) or hit that rail first(bank pool) they are completely lost and outmatched by even the 18 year olds over here in the u.s.
 
The EUROS are one trik ponies. I've been saying it for years. They "pot" balls well, that's it. If they have to think(Onepocket) or hit that rail first(bank pool) they are completely lost and outmatched by even the 18 year olds over here in the u.s.
How many of these so called one trick ponies have won world titles and exactly how many has Shane won ,, did it ever dawn on you they they play good enough not to have to play the gimmick games to make a living ,,


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Shane will find his foreign comfort zone...

How many of these so called one trick ponies have won world titles and exactly how many has Shane won ,, did it ever dawn on you they they play good enough not to have to play the gimmick games to make a living ,,


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Once Shane finds his foreign soil comfort zone, he'll start dominating on the world stage just like he does here.

He regularly beats the same players that win on the world stage, so it's just about his comfort level.

And yeah, when I look at the money lists for the past 5 or 6 years, I see that Shane needs to play the gimmick games to make a living....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Jaden
 
How many of these so called one trick ponies have won world titles and exactly how many has Shane won ,, did it ever dawn on you they they play good enough not to have to play the gimmick games to make a living ,,


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one trick ponies? World titles?.... oh.. ya... a short race game that comes with instructions so they don't get confused (first shoot the 1, then shoot the 2, then shoot the 3, ... repeat... make the stripe ball you win).... lots and lots of skill there :thumbup:
 
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Once Shane finds his foreign soil comfort zone, he'll start dominating on the world stage just like he does here.

He regularly beats the same players that win on the world stage, so it's just about his comfort level.

And yeah, when I look at the money lists for the past 5 or 6 years, I see that Shane needs to play the gimmick games to make a living....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Jaden
No he won't dominate the world stage . There are many who play Shane's level in that stage until he wins one he's not even in the conversation
And to the point of the gimmick games Shane does not have to play them either however they are pretty much American games they have the same chance at beating Shane as Shane has of winning a world snooker title which is zero

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O----k---....

No he won't dominate the world stage . There are many who play Shane's level in that stage until he wins one he's not even in the conversation
And to the point of the gimmick games Shane does not have to play them either however they are pretty much American games they have the same chance at beating Shane as Shane has of winning a world snooker title which is zero

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Whatever you say, come back when Shane isn't kicking all of those world champion's asses here...lol:thumbup::D:D:thumbup:

Jaden
 
How many of these so called one trick ponies have won world titles and exactly how many has Shane won ,, did it ever dawn on you they they play good enough not to have to play the gimmick games to make a living ,,


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SVB I'm sure has a standing offer to any world champ to come play him, for any amount.

I don't think any EURO has that offer out, do they. Forget DAZ, the friggin guys not going to bet waters wet. He can't hold SVBs jock anyhow. Is there any others interested in playing SVB? Their game? 9 or 10 ball?

Stake em if you like it. Your bluffs surely called.
THEY WONT PLAY. THEY KNOW BETTER.
 
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SVB I'm sure has a standing offer to any world champ to come play him, for any amount.

I don't think any EURO has that offer out, do they. Forget DAZ, the friggin guys not going to bet waters wet. He can't hold SVBs jock anyhow. Is there any others interested in playing SVB? Their game? 9 or 10 ball?

Stake em if you like it. Your bluffs surely called.
THEY WONT PLAY. THEY KNOW BETTER.

Hold on there hot rod first off the first statement was the Eruo's don't need to play the gimmick games ,, which they don't second was they have won more world titles which they have , and they certainly don't have to gamble either for the same reason they don't have to play the other games

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That's NOT what you said...

Hold on there hot rod first off the first statement was the Eruo's don't need to play the gimmick games ,, which they don't second was they have won more world titles which they have , and they certainly don't have to gamble either for the same reason they don't have to play the other games

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You said they don't have to play the gimmick games to make enough money...

I pointed out that Shane has made more $ than all of them without the "Gimmick" games....

And then I pointed out that Shane is dominating all of those "World Champions" over here, so when he gets his foreign soil mindset in place, he should dominate there too...

Jaden
 
No he won't dominate the world stage . There are many who play Shane's level in that stage until he wins one he's not even in the conversation
And to the point of the gimmick games Shane does not have to play them either however they are pretty much American games they have the same chance at beating Shane as Shane has of winning a world snooker title which is zero

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I wish I could quantify the amount of "dumb" in your posts. For starters, the amount of variation in short race pool tourneys is infinitely higher than long sets of gambling. The fact that Shane hasn't dominated on foreign soil has a lot more to do with that variance than anything else. If you don't understand this concept then it's futile to go on.

It's the exact same thing in poker. Any clown with decent knowledge of poker can win a given tourney. Conversely, the better players win over the long run in cash games. I still don't see how people (mainly the foreign contingent on here) fail to get that.

Second, how many of these Euro champions will gamble with Shane? Answer: NONE of them. The ones that have gambled with him in the past have left with a broke ass or bum as you probably call it.
 
You said they don't have to play the gimmick games to make enough money...

I pointed out that Shane has made more $ than all of them without the "Gimmick" games....

And then I pointed out that Shane is dominating all of those "World Champions" over here, so when he gets his foreign soil mindset in place, he should dominate there too...

Jaden

Yes he has but for what ever reason he does not win on that stage ,for whatever reason . I think the Eruo's mindset fits that format better just like Shane's does in big money sets
Personally I don't see either dominating the world seen with the quality of players the Asians seem to be producing every yr now its getting tougher and tougher last big turny they had was on 3 3/8 pockets and their firing balls in like 5in pockets on GCs its going to be a tough nut to crack consistently for either IMHO

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You said they don't have to play the gimmick games to make enough money...

I pointed out that Shane has made more $ than all of them without the "Gimmick" games....

And then I pointed out that Shane is dominating all of those "World Champions" over here, so when he gets his foreign soil mindset in place, he should dominate there too...

Jaden

To add a little more to this post...

This list does not include team events (World Cup of Pool, Mosconi Cup), heads up matches (like TAR), ring games, DCC Master of the Table, or any other game besides 8, 9, or 10 ball.

It compares only 1st place finishes between Shane and all the Euros in the top 20 Money List from 2012 and 2013. I'm also only including 1st place finishes with prize money greater than $5,000. The numbers in () are how many first place finishes that player had.

Shane - $136,000 (9)
Thorsten - $36,000 (1)
Mika - $23,550 (1)
Darren - $70,000 (3)
Boyes - $16,000 (1)
Van Den Berg - $8,874 (1)
Ekonomopoulos - $5,244 (1)
 
Anybody that says Shane can't beat tough feilds is just sore in the a$$ cuz he has clearly established himself as the greatest player on the planet and quickly becoming the best ever. (DEAL WITH IT)

Lol!!!! Really yes SVB is the best American player .. not the best in the world right like u think. once he is off American soil he gets his nuts cut off everytime he plays in any other country!!!
 
To add a little more to this post...

This list does not include team events (World Cup of Pool, Mosconi Cup), heads up matches (like TAR), ring games, DCC Master of the Table, or any other game besides 8, 9, or 10 ball.

It compares only 1st place finishes between Shane and all the Euros in the top 20 Money List from 2012 and 2013. I'm also only including 1st place finishes with prize money greater than $5,000. The numbers in () are how many first place finishes that player had.

Shane - $136,000 (9)
Thorsten - $36,000 (1)
Mika - $23,550 (1)
Darren - $70,000 (3)
Boyes - $16,000 (1)
Van Den Berg - $8,874 (1)
Ekonomopoulos - $5,244 (1)

He out earned them all just about combined, in their specialty game. lmao. good one.
 
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