It was just about me showing you that you kind of can visibly see a difference... Not that you'd be able to tell the size just by looking at it.
But if you'd like to know from left to right, 12.75mm, 12.5mm, 11.4mm
12.3mm vs 12.5mm vs 12.75mm shaft
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It was just about me showing you that you kind of can visibly see a difference... Not that you'd be able to tell the size just by looking at it.
But if you'd like to know from left to right, 12.75mm, 12.5mm, 11.4mm
Hey Slim is entitled to his opinion and you can't argue with facts.......not the real facts but rather what Slim understands the facts to be about cue shafts.
He stands his ground adamantly and vigorously. It's because he's basing his opinion on firsthand, actual experience. You see he doesn't discern any
difference in cue shaft sizes in his bridge hand or fingers. After experimenting with different size cue shafts over his many years of pool playing, how
could Slim acquiesce and agree with everyone else . Truth is depending upon the size of the shafts being played with, or simply compared, the difference
is in shaft size is discernible to many players' bridge fingers......I know I can tell.
Maybe Slim has some issues with his somatosensory senses which some folks do suffer from. After all, it is a complex sensory system made up of a
number of different receptors, including thermoreceptors, photoreceptors, mechanoreceptors and chemoreceptors. His hands & brain may not be able
to distinguish slight changes in shaft diameter. So for Slim, the truth is what he knows it to be, not what it actually is.
Anyway, to each their own and Slim is probably one of those players that can pick up a house cue off the wall rack and playability is the same as one of
his custom cues. For some people, a cue is just a piece of shaped wood whose sole purpose is to hit a white ball and the irony is some of these folks are
darn good at the game too.
Matt B.
He stands his ground adamantly and vigorously. It's because he's basing his opinion on firsthand, actual experience. You see he doesn't discern any
difference in cue shaft sizes in his bridge hand or fingers. After experimenting with different size cue shafts over his many years of pool playing, how
could Slim acquiesce and agree with everyone else . Truth is depending upon the size of the shafts being played with, or simply compared, the difference
is in shaft size is discernible to many players' bridge fingers......I know I can tell.
Maybe Slim has some issues with his somatosensory senses which some folks do suffer from. After all, it is a complex sensory system made up of a
number of different receptors, including thermoreceptors, photoreceptors, mechanoreceptors and chemoreceptors. His hands & brain may not be able
to distinguish slight changes in shaft diameter. So for Slim, the truth is what he knows it to be, not what it actually is.
Anyway, to each their own and Slim is probably one of those players that can pick up a house cue off the wall rack and playability is the same as one of
his custom cues. For some people, a cue is just a piece of shaped wood whose sole purpose is to hit a white ball and the irony is some of these folks are
darn good at the game too.
Matt B.
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33 years in the machining trade dealing with close tolerances.
35 years of playing pool.
Knowing when someone thinks they know something because they want to believe it takes no experience.
The shaft diameter if more than a miniscule ammount can be percieved.
But the difference of .010 in tip diameter cannot be percieved.
The effect that .010 difference in diameter has on cue ball reaction is nil, nada, nothing.
That is not my opinion, that is fact.
Slim
33 years in the machining trade dealing with close tolerances.
35 years of playing pool.
Knowing when someone thinks they know something because they want to believe it takes no experience.
The shaft diameter if more than a miniscule ammount can be percieved.
But the difference of .010 in tip diameter cannot be percieved.
The effect that .010 difference in diameter has on cue ball reaction is nil, nada, nothing.
That is not my opinion, that is fact.
Slim
you cannot see or determine a .010 difference in two diameters by feeling them.
If they are different materials you can determine that difference.
Slim
Did someone say they could feel a .010 difference? That's a bit off topic. The point is, different sizes do make a difference whether you see, feel, or detect it, it's there. Sorry.
have you read any of the last few posts in this thread?
No, .010 difference will not effect any thing.
Slim
Read 'em all. :ignore:
I was referring to SEEING the difference which I can in fact do.
But from the 12.75 to the 12.5 I CAN feel the difference.
The 12.75 gets considerably thicker when I have to stretch and use a very long bridge and the 12.5 is much better suited for my small fingers on a bigger table.
So sorry, but I can feel the difference between .25 but I don't have a .10 difference shaft to try so you're probably right on that.
I'm a bit confused here, I thought the diameters were going by .25 mm not .010 mm
Who the hell gets a 12.99 diameter tip?
.010 is 1/100th of a mm, I would love to see someone ask for that.
I think you have your period wrong. Like the girl that wore white shorts at the wrong time.
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Well i like a 12.50, when i order a cue i get 2 shafts 1 at the makers standerd and 1 at 12.6 or close with no pro taper, like a cone, and then a take the shaft to my cue smith that i like, and he puts my taper on it and he dose his magic.
Now if you give me a 13 mm 12.75 or smaller then 12.5 i could tell the differnce, i cant tell the size tho.
Thanks Rick.
Now if you give me a 13 mm 12.75 or smaller then 12.5 i could tell the differnce, i cant tell the size tho.
Thanks Rick.
Anyone that has been around cues for a while will be able to tell the difference between a 13 and a 12.75 mm tip by feel and by sight, and for sure between a 13 and a 12.5mm.
Thank you ddadams & hang-the-9......of course you can feel the difference in shaft size.
One would have to be a complete oaf not to notice the difference in a 12..75 vs. 12.5. vs. 13mm.
Now I realize that the aforementioned sizes are different by .25mm & as much as .5mm.
However, these are standard size shafts and the difference in feel is easily discerned.
When the difference is .1mm, I'll agree it's hard to distinguish a 12.92mm shaft from 1 13,2mm shaft.
If that difference becomes a 12.85mm shaft vs. a 13mm shaft, you can definitely feel the difference.
I have two original Paul Mottey shafts that differ by that much and you can feel the difference.
Now I know Slim is going to chime in....."R U saying that you can't tell a.1mm difference but .05mm more
and you can feel the difference?". What I'm saying is you can tell the difference in shafts....and and others
are saying they can tell a 12.75mm from a 13mm. Well, I bet these folks could tell the difference of a 12.80mm
from a 12.98mm......there's a sensitivity and feel that each of us possesses.......it's been said the same thing
about surgeons.....every one of us has different tactile senses.....just like our eyesight differs as does hearing.
Everyone bases their opinion typically on one of two things......what they either know or what they believe.
And some of us are going to be right on some things and wrong on others.......this is obviously that type of moment
with this very thread...........Hey out there, which side are you on?
Matt B.
One would have to be a complete oaf not to notice the difference in a 12..75 vs. 12.5. vs. 13mm.
Now I realize that the aforementioned sizes are different by .25mm & as much as .5mm.
However, these are standard size shafts and the difference in feel is easily discerned.
When the difference is .1mm, I'll agree it's hard to distinguish a 12.92mm shaft from 1 13,2mm shaft.
If that difference becomes a 12.85mm shaft vs. a 13mm shaft, you can definitely feel the difference.
I have two original Paul Mottey shafts that differ by that much and you can feel the difference.
Now I know Slim is going to chime in....."R U saying that you can't tell a.1mm difference but .05mm more
and you can feel the difference?". What I'm saying is you can tell the difference in shafts....and and others
are saying they can tell a 12.75mm from a 13mm. Well, I bet these folks could tell the difference of a 12.80mm
from a 12.98mm......there's a sensitivity and feel that each of us possesses.......it's been said the same thing
about surgeons.....every one of us has different tactile senses.....just like our eyesight differs as does hearing.
Everyone bases their opinion typically on one of two things......what they either know or what they believe.
And some of us are going to be right on some things and wrong on others.......this is obviously that type of moment
with this very thread...........Hey out there, which side are you on?
Matt B.