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lastdimetaker

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I'm looking for somebody, they can mentor me. I need a higher authority to report back to. Somebody to hold me accountable. I need Professional feedback on everything from my training, to gambling. Help me keep focused. . Im thinking about 1 hour a week on the phone.
This my situation i am between a A- and B+ player, depending on who you talk too. I am fundamentally sound. I am limited with actual time at table, which i m in a constant battle between practice and playing.
I need someone to keep me motivated ... must have true interest in my success .. not sure what else to say. 334 2249925 please seriously give some thought before calling. Are you knowledgeable with the ins and outs of pool. And can you help me. Do u have the time an interest. .. hope this works.
 
You didn't list where you are located, but I believe 334 is in Alabama? I would recommend getting a coach that will record your whole pre-shot routine so they can break down your fundamentals for you. There are some reputable people on here who travel who might be able to help. Good luck in your search!
 
Where for art thou? And yes, there are some good people here that can fill you bill. Me not one of them, but then again, the best coaches weren't always the best players.
 
If I were you,definitely check out Anthony Beeler.This guy is very knowledgable and cares about his students success.You will be very impressed with him.His number is 606-669-8401
 
I have already been the pool school. I'm very fundamentally sound. shooting the shots is not a problem. The problem is motivation. And Frustration. Nobody ever asked me did I practice today. So I can go weeks without practice And never even realize it.
 
I still think Anthony would be a great choice.Other than that if I were you and felt that way,I would get whoever I thought my best friend is and just have him there to help motivate and keep me from getting frustrated,IMO,Anthony is a great motivator as well
 
Maybe I should have put mental coach. Dont need a face to face. I need to run scenarios by him and give me feed back. .. example i play in tournament when the money, get a little action after the tournament. But I'm so tired and I gotta go to work. How do you get out of the game. I decided to give him one shot to win all his money back . Of course he makes it. So I had $40 and a chance to win more but I gave it back to him. There's a little bit more to the situation But I'm frustrated because I gave him his money back because I was tired. GivethemthiermoneybackTim..... There's hundreds of things I want to talk about. It would be beneficial to go back to pool school for a refresher course. But I don't know That's why I Wish I had a coach. To help me make those decisions. Yes it would be beneficial. But at the same time. He may see something else that I need to work on. I report posts all the time. Sports psychology books. But I have nobody to talk to about it. I feel like I can be a lot better than I am. And I'm not that bad.
 
That's an interesting concept that I bet many instructors or even pro players might be interested in doing it. Coaching by phone. I would figure out who you would think that would make a good coach and contact them by email or phone. Aim for the stars. Figure out a way to compensate them for their time and expertise. Try a few coaching sessions with someone and if it doesn't work out, try someone else. It might be a good business model for pro's that have been in the grease (action and tournaments) to share their mental approach, etc.
 
dardusm said:
That's an interesting concept that I bet many instructors or even pro players might be interested in doing it. Coaching by phone. I would figure out who you would think that would make a good coach and contact them by email or phone. Aim for the stars. Figure out a way to compensate them for their time and expertise. Try a few coaching sessions with someone and if it doesn't work out, try someone else. It might be a good business model for pro's that have been in the grease (action and tournaments) to share their mental approach, etc.
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You get it. I actually did this a few months back. I have been coaching myself. And I can only go so far. You know what they say about lawyers That represent themselves. .how about you. Definitely on same track so far. .i feel better that someone gets me.
I had a best friend that I talk to all the time. All he did was feed off of me . I was sorta kinda his coach. He sucked me dry It took all my ideas And tries to pass it off as his own. Lol I need somebody interested in my success.
 
Scott has been on my mind, just not sure if he is into the dark side of pool. I know he is a great teacher. Im rough around the edges he seems like nice guy. I wil shoot him e mail see what he thinks. Thanks for the commentS I really appreciate nobody bashing me.. lol
 
I believe that Thomas will be able to help you. Since you provided your phone number, he will call you, and call you, and text you.

On a serious note, it sounds like you need a bit of accountability. Winning is about the good and the bad. Sure it's nice to have a workout partner in a gym, but how many people use the excuse that they couldn't get in touch with their workout partner, so they didn't go.

The best money you can spend, is to talk to a psychologist who knows nothing about pool, nothing at all. Let them give you situational advice from an outsiders perspective on what makes the best "life" sense.

If you feel that you are giving money back that you won, you aren't hungry enough to want to stick it to that person. Maybe too much "nice guy" in you. As my ole friend Rick Zumwalt used to say, you get to that table and the guy across from you is your nightmare. Conquer the nightmare.

lastdimetaker said:
Scott has been on my mind, just not sure if he is into the dark side of pool. I know he is a great teacher. Im rough around the edges he seems like nice guy. I wil shoot him e mail see what he thinks. Thanks for the commentS I really appreciate nobody bashing me.. lol
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lastdimetaker said:
Maybe I should have put mental coach. Dont need a face to face. I need to run scenarios by him and give me feed back. .. example i play in tournament when the money, get a little action after the tournament. But I'm so tired and I gotta go to work. How do you get out of the game. I decided to give him one shot to win all his money back . Of course he makes it. So I had $40 and a chance to win more but I gave it back to him. There's a little bit more to the situation But I'm frustrated because I gave him his money back because I was tired. GivethemthiermoneybackTim..... There's hundreds of things I want to talk about. It would be beneficial to go back to pool school for a refresher course. But I don't know That's why I Wish I had a coach. To help me make those decisions. Yes it would be beneficial. But at the same time. He may see something else that I need to work on. I report posts all the time. Sports psychology books. But I have nobody to talk to about it. I feel like I can be a lot better than I am. And I'm not that bad.
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Do your own due diligence. There are "mental coaches" out there that do precisely what you are asking. Just google it. Cohn comes to mind as one who provides personalized mental coaching to athletes in various sports.

JoeyA
 
First off, you are in the same boat as a million other guys, or maybe 100 million, who have had the pool dream, and really wanted to make it work, past and present.
You had the guys 40 dollars and a chance to win more {maybe, most people do not carry large sums of cash any more} you had to go to work the next morning, so you gave it back, {gave him a chance, he won}.
Here are the scenarios as I have seen them over the last 50 plus years.
1. You get craphouse lucky and run into someone like Dippy Dave , Airplane Man , Stutter man , and win a small fortune in a short time.{ You don't have to be a champion to beat some of these guys , just be the right guy at the right time} most of the guys who won lots of money off Stutter Man were C and then became B players.{several of these people lives were devastated later , karma?}
2. You travel around like Jack Cooney or Alphie Taylor and get next to suckers all over the country and win whatever they are willing to lose
3. You are like the majority of players and you find out your true speed and how to clock other players and you pick your opponents and work up the ladder , you enhance this by practicing and improving faster than they can keep up with and always being a step ahead.
You can make money like this , but it's never going to be much for one major reason, it's called "winning heat".
If you keep beating people you aren't supposed to, pretty soon , no one is going to want to mess with you because you already beat some guy they are scared to mess with!
Then if you do beat someone , you have to have an armed entourage with you sometimes to get out with it, or to get out of the parking lot without having a gun put to your head.
I have tallked to hundreds and hundreds of players who were shortstop to champion speed, allmost all of them who made pool their life , told me they wished they never saw a pool table.
Is that how you would like your dream to end?
Work your job , enjoy your life , play pool for what you can afford and become the best you can be, and don't lust after things you don't really understand, {and won't until it's too late} and that's the best advice I can give.
One last thing, if you had won all that guys money , say 2 hundred dollars and his little wife came in with a couple of little kids crying that she didn't have any money for diapers or food , could you keep it?
Thats the truth about most of the money you will ever win , it was taken from somebody elses mouth!
Lots of people justify it by saying, if I didn't take it , someone else would have!
The heat is still on you, and no amount of justifying or self deluding can take it away.
For those who could keep the money and think it was ok , your reward awaits you.
I have worn these shoes and walked a million miles in them , now I have to spend the rest of my life , trying to make up for it.
Not for someone else ,but because I know it's the right thing to do.
 
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book collector said:
First off, you are in the same boat as a million other guys, or maybe 100 million, who have had the pool dream, and really wanted to make it work, past and present.
You had the guys 40 dollars and a chance to win more {maybe, most people do not carry large sums of cash any more} you had to go to work the next morning, so you gave it back, {gave him a chance, he won}.
Here are the scenarios as I have seen them over the last 50 plus years.
1. You get craphouse lucky and run into someone like Dippy Dave , Airplane Man , Stutter man , and win a small fortune in a short time.{ You don't have to be a champion to beat some of these guys , just be the right guy at the right time} most of the guys who won lots of money off Stutter Man were C and then became B players.{several of these people lives were devastated later , karma?}
2. You travel around like Jack Cooney or Alphie Taylor and get next to suckers all over the country and win whatever they are willing to lose
3. You are like the majority of players and you find out your true speed and how to clock other players and you pick your opponents and work up the ladder , you enhance this by practicing and improving faster than they can keep up with and always being a step ahead.
You can make money like this , but it's never going to be much for one major reason, it's called "winning heat".
If you keep beating people you aren't supposed to, pretty soon , no one is going to want to mess with you because you already beat some guy they are scared to mess with!
Then if you do beat someone , you have to have an armed entourage with you sometimes to get out with it, or to get out of the parking lot without having a gun put to your head.
I have tallked to hundreds and hundreds of players who were shortstop to champion speed, allmost all of them who made pool their life , told me they wished they never saw a pool table.
Is that how you would like your dream to end?
Work your job , enjoy your life , play pool for what you can afford and become the best you can be, and don't lust after things you don't really understand, {and won't until it's too late} and that's the best advice I can give.
One last thing, if you had won all that guys money , say 2 hundred dollars and his little wife came in with a couple of little kids crying that she didn't have any money for diapers or food , could you keep it?
Thats the truth about most of the money you will ever win , it was taken from somebody elses mouth!
Lots of people justify it by saying, if I didn't take it , someone else would have!
The heat is still on you, and no amount of justifying or self deluding can take it away.
For those who could keep the money and think it was ok , your reward awaits you.
I have worn these shoes and walked a million miles in them , now I have to spend the rest of my life , trying to make up for it.
Not for someone else ,but because I know it's the right thing to do.
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I'm still waiting for my Dippy Dave! Erm.. I guess I'd actually have to have money to bet money, right?

Just like with many other things, many will try, few will prosper. The best one, I think, is to not let people know your speed and just let them gamble. If you're aiming for the desperate ones, you're not going to make squat anyhow. Just ask Rhea how that works out. Save up and take down a score that makes it worthwhile. Either that, or consider gambling just a hobby.

Finding the people in #1 can also take some skill. I'm a bit more like #3, but as you said, it only goes so far before you're either hosed because people are scared or you're hosed because you played out of your head to beat somebody you really shouldn't and that can do even more damage. I benefit by not really going anywhere outside of my hangout. Still, there are also a hundred or thousand more players just like me doing the exact same thing. A bunch of spiders, hanging out in their own little webs, waiting for a fly.
 
book collector said:
First off, you are in the same boat as a million other guys, or maybe 100 million, who have had the pool dream, and really wanted to make it work, past and present.
You had the guys 40 dollars and a chance to win more {maybe, most people do not carry large sums of cash any more} you had to go to work the next morning, so you gave it back, {gave him a chance, he won}.
Here are the scenarios as I have seen them over the last 50 plus years.
1. You get craphouse lucky and run into someone like Dippy Dave , Airplane Man , Stutter man , and win a small fortune in a short time.{ You don't have to be a champion to beat some of these guys , just be the right guy at the right time} most of the guys who won lots of money off Stutter Man were C and then became B players.{several of these people lives were devastated later , karma?}
2. You travel around like Jack Cooney or Alphie Taylor and get next to suckers all over the country and win whatever they are willing to lose
3. You are like the majority of players and you find out your true speed and how to clock other players and you pick your opponents and work up the ladder , you enhance this by practicing and improving faster than they can keep up with and always being a step ahead.
You can make money like this , but it's never going to be much for one major reason, it's called "winning heat".
If you keep beating people you aren't supposed to, pretty soon , no one is going to want to mess with you because you already beat some guy they are scared to mess with!
Then if you do beat someone , you have to have an armed entourage with you sometimes to get out with it, or to get out of the parking lot without having a gun put to your head.
I have tallked to hundreds and hundreds of players who were shortstop to champion speed, allmost all of them who made pool their life , told me they wished they never saw a pool table.
Is that how you would like your dream to end?
Work your job , enjoy your life , play pool for what you can afford and become the best you can be, and don't lust after things you don't really understand, {and won't until it's too late} and that's the best advice I can give.
One last thing, if you had won all that guys money , say 2 hundred dollars and his little wife came in with a couple of little kids crying that she didn't have any money for diapers or food , could you keep it?
Thats the truth about most of the money you will ever win , it was taken from somebody elses mouth!
Lots of people justify it by saying, if I didn't take it , someone else would have!
The heat is still on you, and no amount of justifying or self deluding can take it away.
For those who could keep the money and think it was ok , your reward awaits you.
I have worn these shoes and walked a million miles in them , now I have to spend the rest of my life , trying to make up for it.
Not for someone else ,but because I know it's the right thing to do.
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Your post speaks of the truths that most are unwilling to admit about themselves.

If make a wager with someone who has a wife and children and you beat them out of their money, you beat the wife and children out of that money as well.

Some wagers are interesting, fun and add another dimension to the art of playing pool. That being said..............

If you make a wager of say $10,000 and you are pretty sure you are going to win the wager and it is against a man who has a wife and children, then you can consider yourself bankrupt of morals and little more than a thief.

JoeyA
 
I appreciate the advice And a lot of the things you said we're right on. . It's not about the money I just want to get better. My life is pool. I Drive down the road Listen to books Watching cool videos. I play cheap I don't wanna hurt nobody and I'm not looking to get hurt. There's so much to talk about the Mosconi Cup USA team. They have a coach And there's some of the best players in the country... I just want somebody in my corner helping me keep my head straight. Im not looking to be a champion i just want every chance or take every advantage I can to win. .. I really liked your comment. ..
 
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