What to do with a Tim Scruggs cue that needs TLC

Grantstew

Grantstew

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Hi All,

I am looking for some advice....

I have been sent a cue by a friend of a friend which I have been asked to sell.

I knew there were some issues in advance, but now I am a bit stumped.

The cue is very obviously a Tim Scruggs, but the butt cap has been replaced at some stage. The shafts are very thin, one with no tip and a big crack through the ivory ferrule. Since Tim has retired, what would be the best thing to do with this cue? Should I get a maker to do two new shafts and use the old ring work? Should I do anything with the butt cap, obviously it would not be right any maker other than Tim putting the TS logo back on.

Any advice would be great

(and if anyone wants to make an offer for it, feel free, I will not be letting it go for a lowball figure though, so be warned)

Here are some pics.









 
Grantstew said:
Any advice would be great

(and if anyone wants to make an offer for it, feel free, I will not be letting it go for a lowball figure though, so be warned)
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Its not worth what you think it is but I can see someone offering you a couple of hundred bucks for it and that is not a low ball offer. Someone may tell you otherwise and you will probably take his advice to heart because mine isn't what you want to hear.

The cue is done, as far as getting maximum value since Scruggs is retired and he can't put a new butt cap with logo on it. No shaft too?

If it is restored it will be a Franken-scruggs. This is what I call cues when they are restored with generic parts.

The value of the cue should be with the guy that gave it to you. You are strictly thinking about flipping it since you came to ask.

You should just keep it and fix it. Get new shafts for it and play with it.
 
I would have thought a refinish, new shafts (with the original ringwork transplanted) would make this a cue worth around $2K. The butt cap is hardly what makes the value. I would need to get the right cuemaker to do the work of course.
 
Grantstew said:
I would have thought a refinish, new shafts (with the original ringwork transplanted) would make this a cue worth around $2K. The butt cap is hardly what makes the value. I would need to get the right cuemaker to do the work of course.
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I would just play with it.

You are going to get many answers and some purist would leave it the way it is.

A pool cue is like a work of art and people don't like it if an amateur painter did a refinish on a Picasso.

You're not going to get that price unless Mr. Scruggs does the work on it. Again, I have seen people pay some outrageous prices for cues so this is the place. Just my opinion.
 
Yeah, I play with a new logo Randy Mobley, and will not be switching to this cue.

I am not interested in buying it from this guy for myself.

The market will decide in the end what should be done with it, but I certainly don't think that "the cue is done" ;)
 
I would contact Bob Frey, who was Tims partner for many years. He could make new shafts with matching ringwork, and fix the but cap. I believe he is authorized by Tim to use the logo also.

Tim and Bob are still in contact to this day, and perhaps he can get a letter from Tim validating the work.

Depending on the year the cue was made, Bob may have been involved in creating the cue.

I don't think you would loose much value (if any) if you follow this advice.
 
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Tony_in_MD said:
I would contact Bob Frey, who was Tims partner for many years. He could make new shafts with matching ringwork, and fix the but cap. I believe he is authorized by Tim to use the logo also.

Tim and Bob are still in contact to this day, and perhaps he can get a letter from Tim validating the work.

Depending on the year the cue was made, Bob may have been involved in creating the cue.

I don't think you would loose much value (if any) if you follow this advice.
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I totally agree.Bob Frey is the man to bring it back to new condition.He may have even built this when he was working with Timmy.Good luck.
Marc
 
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OP got his answer. :thumbup:

Spend $500 to 600 on restoring and sell for $3900.

With letter of authenticity too.
 
If it is really a Scruggs then it's probably worth restoring. I rescued one and it's a personal treasure now.
 
I think you are under a bit.

I saw what you are asking for it, you are giving it away at that price.

Grantstew said:
I would have thought a refinish, new shafts (with the original ringwork transplanted) would make this a cue worth around $2K. The butt cap is hardly what makes the value. I would need to get the right cuemaker to do the work of course.
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These Scruggs are demanding crazy prices and to think I had a chance years ago to jump on one for $800 because the guy had debts to pay off and he paid 1800 for it at the time. It was a monster.

:eek:
 
Tony_in_MD said:
I would contact Bob Frey, who was Tims partner for many years. He could make new shafts with matching ringwork, and fix the but cap. I believe he is authorized by Tim to use the logo also.

Tim and Bob are still in contact to this day, and perhaps he can get a letter from Tim validating the work.

Depending on the year the cue was made, Bob may have been involved in creating the cue.

I don't think you would loose much value (if any) if you follow this advice.
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Thanks very much for the advice, I will get in touch with Bob and see what he says :)
 
Tony_in_MD said:
I would contact Bob Frey, who was Tims partner for many years. He could make new shafts with matching ringwork, and fix the but cap. I believe he is authorized by Tim to use the logo also.

Tim and Bob are still in contact to this day, and perhaps he can get a letter from Tim validating the work.

Depending on the year the cue was made, Bob may have been involved in creating the cue.

I don't think you would loose much value (if any) if you follow this advice.
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Agree 100%

This is what I would do. Bob may have made the cue, which isn't out of the question either. It isn't a $3900 cue. Don't kid yourself. Consider yourself lucky if you get between 1600-2000, IMO.

Good luck,

Ken
 
Ken_4fun said:
Agree 100%

This is what I would do. Bob may have made the cue, which isn't out of the question either. It isn't a $3900 cue. Don't kid yourself. Consider yourself lucky if you get between 1600-2000, IMO.

Good luck,

Ken
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Hi Ken,

At no point did I say it would be worth $3900, that was just a sarcastic comment by the other guy. I reckoned after a refinish with 2 shafts it would be worth in the region of $2K.

Cheers
Grant
 
Bob Frey
2-new shafts, new butt cap with the TS logo
Refinish, re-wrap
Probably $700 or so
Not bad, I would do it just because you can't play with the skinny shafts, and it's not worth much as-is, especially with that butt cap.
I have one with the same daggers in the points that I may send to Bob Frey.
The shafts are good, but there are a couple of nicks.
The work Bob did on the last two TS cues I sent him was tip-top.
 
Cuesblues,

That sounds about right, and it also definitely sounds like what I should do with the cue.

Do you have an email address for Bob?
 
Grantstew said:
Cuesblues,

That sounds about right, and it also definitely sounds like what I should do with the cue.

Do you have an email address for Bob?
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I would just call him
He is really easy going, you can even send the cue to him with a note
Tim is at his shop quite a bit
 
Tony_in_MD said:
I would contact Bob Frey, who was Tims partner for many years. He could make new shafts with matching ringwork, and fix the but cap. I believe he is authorized by Tim to use the logo also.

Tim and Bob are still in contact to this day, and perhaps he can get a letter from Tim validating the work.

Depending on the year the cue was made, Bob may have been involved in creating the cue.

I don't think you would loose much value (if any) if you follow this advice.
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^^^^ This, Bob can take care of all these problems & does top shelf work.


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