Prove CTE does not work.

The below shot, going rail first for the 8ball, shows the limitation of every aiming system but ghost ball. Why ? Because you have to use indirect aiming.

You can not use the OB directly with the CB for aiming. You are going rail first. You have to aim at a spot on the rail. The only thing that is there is the contact point on the OB or the GB contact patch, ie spot on the table for the GB.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=357876&page=2

Above is a example to prove this. Draw that going rail first. Oh and I never got a answer about a side version of the drawing either.....wonder why?

Oh, consider this about the 1/2 tip pivot ......not all tips are the same diameter.....so then not all pivots are going to be the same because not all tips are the same diameter.......
How about if you masse' that shot ?
 
John, you must really enjoy arguing. You know there will not be one single response that offers any factual evidence that CTE/Pro One doesn't work. You're just inviting the Trolls to post their usual useless drivel.

Speaking of useless drivel..

Do you people understand how the world works? You make claims - the burden of proof is on you to back them up. So far, the CTE bafflers have put nothing out there. Keep up the good work. :rolleyes:

CTE is not a "center pocket system", it is not "geometrically connected to the table".

I've got a trillion dollars for anybody that can prove(with facts) otherwise. :rolleyes:

Just a sales gimmick. One that a "certain" user "picked up on" relatively "quickly". Can't blind em with brilliance? Just create an "aiming system".
 
You just claimed to have a trillion dollars. I want you to prove it because the burden of proof is on you....:thumbup:

Speaking of useless drivel..

Do you people understand how the world works? You make claims - the burden of proof is on you to back them up. So far, the CTE bafflers have put nothing out there. Keep up the good work. :rolleyes:

CTE is not a "center pocket system", it is not "geometrically connected to the table".

I've got a trillion dollars for anybody that can prove(with facts) otherwise. :rolleyes:

Just a sales gimmick. One that a "certain" user "picked up on" relatively "quickly". Can't blind em with brilliance? Just create an "aiming system".
 
Speaking of useless drivel..

Do you people understand how the world works? You make claims - the burden of proof is on you to back them up. So far, the CTE bafflers have put nothing out there. Keep up the good work. :rolleyes:

CTE is not a "center pocket system", it is not "geometrically connected to the table".

I've got a trillion dollars for anybody that can prove(with facts) otherwise. :rolleyes:

Just a sales gimmick. One that a "certain" user "picked up on" relatively "quickly". Can't blind em with brilliance? Just create an "aiming system".

And I suppose you are in any position to explain how the world works? Now that is exceptionally funny. You've got a trillion dollars? I'll bet "you're lucky to have two nickels to rub together" is a lot closer to the truth.

Look, you aren't intelligent enough to grasp how CTE/Pro One works. Everyone gets that, it's painfully obvious. Nice attempt again at a Troll though.
 
You just claimed to have a trillion dollars. I want you to prove it because the burden of proof is on you....:thumbup:

Matter of fact, I've got a hundred trillion sitting in a dresser drawer at home! :eek:

I did find some proof that CTE doesn't work, though.. right here.
 
And I suppose you are in any position to explain how the world works? Now that is exceptionally funny. You've got a trillion dollars? I'll bet "you're lucky to have two nickels to rub together" is a lot closer to the truth.

Look, you aren't intelligent enough to grasp how CTE/Pro One works. Everyone gets that, it's painfully obvious. Nice attempt again at a Troll though.

At least you're living up to your name there, Nob.

Any time you want to play some or take an IQ test, just let me know. Until then, you'll just run your mouth about CTE, but can't spend a day to back it up with facts/math. Probably because that data doesn't exist.

What's it matter if I have two cents or two million? It doesn't change the fact that you people have been spreading CTE b@#$@#it for years.
 
Send me proof then. I won't accept, pictures of your bank balance, videos, statements from friends ect..
Remember you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you...

And it's pretty clear that guy is using the ghost ball method... :)
 
Send me proof then. I won't accept, pictures of your bank balance, videos, statements from friends ect..
Remember you made the claim, the burden of proof is on you...

And it's pretty clear that guy is using the ghost ball method... :)

I told you the hundred trillion is in my dresser drawer, not the bank. If I can remember, I'll take a picture of it after work.

Not sure what you're talking about, you can clearly see a pivot even in his first shot. :)
 
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The below shot, going rail first for the 8ball, shows the limitation of every aiming system but ghost ball. Why ? Because you have to use indirect aiming.

You can not use the OB directly with the CB for aiming. You are going rail first. You have to aim at a spot on the rail. The only thing that is there is the contact point on the OB or the GB contact patch, ie spot on the table for the GB.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=357876&page=2

Above is a example to prove this. Draw that going rail first. Oh and I never got a answer about a side version of the drawing either.....wonder why?

Oh, consider this about the 1/2 tip pivot ......not all tips are the same diameter.....so then not all pivots are going to be the same because not all tips are the same diameter.......

I'll bite. Aim at the mirror ball (to the right of actual 8 ball, equadistant from the rail)...apply CTE or whatever aiming system you use (even ghost ball if you prefer, the system isn't relevant, since you're aiming at an invisible mirror ball) to cut back cut the mirror ball to the mirror image of the corner pocket. CB hits the rail at the correct distance and angle to cut in the actual 8 ball in to the actual corner pocket. Mirror ball aiming works really well for rail first kicks; takes a little practice to see it, but once you do it's a powerful tool. I've seen Jayson Shaw use it with devastating effect.
 
You can't prove a negative. Someone can post a video of themselves, describing the steps to a CTE alignment, pull the trigger and miss, saying "see, I told you so"...but how would we know they were remotely lined up correctly? For that matter, I don't trust videos of people demonstrating it works, either. Someone has to apply the technique and system, then see for themselves whether or not it works. No way from a video can we perceive precisely what the other shooter is perceiving. If I see John Barton put cut out circles on a pool table, draw chalk lines depciting the shot line, the CTE line and using his cue to demonstrate the pivot, that just shows how to do it. Once he demonstrates a successful shot, who's to say what he really did? A player has to put in the work to understand and utilize the precepts of the system, to see if it works. Then, he's only proved it to himself.
 
I told you the hundred trillion is in my dresser drawer, not the bank. If I can remember, I'll take a picture of it after work.

Not sure what you're talking about, you can clearly see a pivot even in his first shot. :)

A picture won't do. I need real proof...

Yes, I think there are many pivots during the same stroke...lol
 
Pretty sad

And I suppose you are in any position to explain how the world works? Now that is exceptionally funny. You've got a trillion dollars? I'll bet "you're lucky to have two nickels to rub together" is a lot closer to the truth.

Look, you aren't intelligent enough to grasp how CTE/Pro One works. Everyone gets that, it's painfully obvious. Nice attempt again at a Troll though.

You can't prove it so you always result to calling people trolls. Easy to hide behind the keyboard, and act like a two year old.

Let me guess, never excelled in sports as a kid, was picked on, and beat up a lot, so now you use this forum to make yourself feel better. Laughable.
 
You can't prove it so you always result to calling people trolls. Easy to hide behind the keyboard, and act like a two year old.

Let me guess, never excelled in sports as a kid, was picked on, and beat up a lot, so now you use this forum to make yourself feel better. Laughable.

My prediction..... This thread will get closed...lol :deadhorse:
 
I asked the mods to close it as soon as it was opened.

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Well I think JB posted a legitimate question. But it certainly did open the door for more "mud slinging". Having said that JB did ask us CTE users to refrain from commenting on this thread. So I will honour his request and step away from this thread now..
 
You can't prove it so you always result to calling people trolls. Easy to hide behind the keyboard, and act like a two year old.

Let me guess, never excelled in sports as a kid, was picked on, and beat up a lot, so now you use this forum to make yourself feel better. Laughable.

You're dead on. Lettered in 4 sports in high school, won far more altercations than I lost and I don't hide behind anything. Well done.
 
At least you're living up to your name there, Nob.

Any time you want to play some or take an IQ test, just let me know. Until then, you'll just run your mouth about CTE, but can't spend a day to back it up with facts/math. Probably because that data doesn't exist.

What's it matter if I have two cents or two million? It doesn't change the fact that you people have been spreading CTE b@#$@#it for years.

What kind of wager would you like to make and how would you propose we test the IQ? Obviously, given your integrity (or lack thereof), we'd have to find a neutral third party to hold the money.
 
What kind of wager would you like to make and how would you propose we test the IQ? Obviously, given your integrity (or lack thereof), we'd have to find a neutral third party to hold the money.

Oh, now some know-it-all jerk is questioning my integrity, too?

Bring it on, kiddo.

...or will you need time to study a "thinking system"?

Edit: Seeing as how you don't understand the definition of "integrity", you should probably quit while you're ahead. We could double up on pool, too, but I'd hate to take you for a sucker.
 
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