bluewolf4343
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I been seeing this G10 pins wondering whats so great about them?
G10 pin
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Cognoscenti Cues uses this pin. I think its a good pin. I remember when they were laughing at Huebler for using that funny little plastic bushing in his shafts..... not laughing any more 30 years later are they? I think the glass pin is awesome. I have hit with a Cognoscenti Cue and it hits a lot like a McDermott... which is just as well as saying that it's near as makes no difference.... peerless. (swidt)
I'd like to have a Cognoscenti Cue, but I am buyin a Mike Yingling sneaky pete cue next week and that puts me over my limit for cues I can buy for this year.
Regards,
Lesh
Cognoscenti Cues uses this pin. I think its a good pin. I remember when they were laughing at Huebler for using that funny little plastic bushing in his shafts..... not laughing any more 30 years later are they? I think the glass pin is awesome. I have hit with a Cognoscenti Cue and it hits a lot like a McDermott... which is just as well as saying that it's near as makes no difference.... peerless. (swidt)
I'd like to have a Cognoscenti Cue, but I am buyin a Mike Yingling sneaky pete cue next week and that puts me over my limit for cues I can buy for this year.
Regards,
Lesh
"Too tight" can be easily fixed by a cue maker or repair person.
Upon reading this thread I've come across a couple of points that could use a little correction.
To the OP: G10 is an incredibly light mtrl. that is currently popular in cue-building,
particularly in the area of connecting pins, ie, Radial, 3/8x10, etc.
Time will tell if they are suitable for this application.
They are nowhere near the strength of stainless steel and actually break quite easily.
They do have the advantage of wght-savings and are used to off-set excessive forward balance.
They don't do well in a side-loaded condition, say, if you like to bend your cue.
Lesh: You are correct in that Joe Gold does use the G10 pin in his Cognoscenti cues.
However, be mindful that they are 7/16" in dia whereas the G10 Radial & etc. are 3/8" dia.
It's my understanding that Mr. Gold pioneered the use of the G10 pin.
As to the Huebler nylon insert, I'm still laughing. It truly is a joke.
It's nylon, there is no glue made that will hold it. They cross-thread easily and since the glue
used isn't capable of holding it, the inserts have been known to back themselves out of the shaft.
There is a time-tested fix however. Replace the nylon insert with one of brass. End of problem.
As a side-note, have you ever seen another cue manufacturer jump on the nylon insert bandwagon?
I wonder why?
DAVE_M: "I have a G10 insert in my shaft also." This is a common mistake.
G10 isn't used as an insert mtrl. Most likely it is black phenolic. Actually, I'd bet money on it.
No biggie, as I said, it's a common mistake.
Now to GoldCrown: Has anyone ever suggested using wax on the pin? It does wonders.
Shaft fit-up is subjective. Some people actually like a snug fitting shaft, particularly a Radial.
The Radial was designed to have greater surface contact area. A loose fit negates this advantage.
Greater contact area can create additional friction in the cue's assembly. Wax provides lubrication.
KJ
To the OP: G10 is an incredibly light mtrl. that is currently popular in cue-building,
particularly in the area of connecting pins, ie, Radial, 3/8x10, etc.
Time will tell if they are suitable for this application.
They are nowhere near the strength of stainless steel and actually break quite easily.
They do have the advantage of wght-savings and are used to off-set excessive forward balance.
They don't do well in a side-loaded condition, say, if you like to bend your cue.
Lesh: You are correct in that Joe Gold does use the G10 pin in his Cognoscenti cues.
However, be mindful that they are 7/16" in dia whereas the G10 Radial & etc. are 3/8" dia.
It's my understanding that Mr. Gold pioneered the use of the G10 pin.
As to the Huebler nylon insert, I'm still laughing. It truly is a joke.
It's nylon, there is no glue made that will hold it. They cross-thread easily and since the glue
used isn't capable of holding it, the inserts have been known to back themselves out of the shaft.
There is a time-tested fix however. Replace the nylon insert with one of brass. End of problem.
As a side-note, have you ever seen another cue manufacturer jump on the nylon insert bandwagon?
I wonder why?
DAVE_M: "I have a G10 insert in my shaft also." This is a common mistake.
G10 isn't used as an insert mtrl. Most likely it is black phenolic. Actually, I'd bet money on it.
No biggie, as I said, it's a common mistake.
Now to GoldCrown: Has anyone ever suggested using wax on the pin? It does wonders.
Shaft fit-up is subjective. Some people actually like a snug fitting shaft, particularly a Radial.
The Radial was designed to have greater surface contact area. A loose fit negates this advantage.
Greater contact area can create additional friction in the cue's assembly. Wax provides lubrication.
KJ
It could very well be. The shaft in question is made by Tiger.
My current player has a 3/8 10 pin made from G10.
The best way that I can describe it, is that it acts as if there were NO pin.
The G10 is in fact much more susceptible (sp?) to breaking, as they are some what brittle... however they all they cue to FLEX much more naturally and transfer the vibration/resonance more readily through the cue than one of greater mass and rigidity.
If you like a very "solid" and "abrupt" hit in a cue... then I would steer clear of G10 pins. They tend to "sing" much more and the resonance has MUCH more sustain.
Hope this helps
The best way that I can describe it, is that it acts as if there were NO pin.
The G10 is in fact much more susceptible (sp?) to breaking, as they are some what brittle... however they all they cue to FLEX much more naturally and transfer the vibration/resonance more readily through the cue than one of greater mass and rigidity.
If you like a very "solid" and "abrupt" hit in a cue... then I would steer clear of G10 pins. They tend to "sing" much more and the resonance has MUCH more sustain.
Hope this helps
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The Schmelke guys definitely win the award for being outgoing! :thumbup:
There are actually a number of break cues out there with one piece G10 tips/ferrules.
Literally this Monday, I got back my cues from David at Schmelke.
Refinish on my player (which has a G10 pin), with a new shaft
Purpleheart shaft for my breaker (phenolic tip/ferrule)
and new G10 combo on my "dedicated jumper" which is a J/B that I customized ot be just a jump cue (the whole cue weighs less than 13oz... and full length is 54")
I literally cannot say enough good things about David and his business... literally NO complaints whatsoever!!!
I have a few diveney cues, all with g-10 pins and I love the way they play.
One is a jump break cue that I believe is the only cue in the world wit 2 g-10 pins in it. It also has a g-10 ferrule.
I am sold on these pins, though I am not really sure they cause a perceptibly different feel of hit. I am somewhat of the opinion that any hardware that can fill the purpose of a pin will share many attributes with other materials that can do same. Because of that, hit will be virtually the same between those materials.
One is a jump break cue that I believe is the only cue in the world wit 2 g-10 pins in it. It also has a g-10 ferrule.
I am sold on these pins, though I am not really sure they cause a perceptibly different feel of hit. I am somewhat of the opinion that any hardware that can fill the purpose of a pin will share many attributes with other materials that can do same. Because of that, hit will be virtually the same between those materials.
Recently bought an Arthur cue (beautiful 5 pointer with great inlays and ring work ) from Itzel0101 here on AZ. Thought long and hard about it because it has a G10 pin ( which I believe have been used extensively by Chudy for his RC3 cues). Never played one before, and thought it was like marrying someone you've never slept with.
Anyway, the cue is a monster. Crisper hit than my Black Boar but incredibly solid with great feedback. Screws together very tightly and smoothly, and I haven't noticed any unusual flex Still trying to decide if it will be my very day player........ Tough to choose between my Boar, Prewitt and now the Arthur. Guess I'm lucky to have the choices!
Anyway, the cue is a monster. Crisper hit than my Black Boar but incredibly solid with great feedback. Screws together very tightly and smoothly, and I haven't noticed any unusual flex Still trying to decide if it will be my very day player........ Tough to choose between my Boar, Prewitt and now the Arthur. Guess I'm lucky to have the choices!