Stan is Way More Than CTE/Pro One

nobcitypool

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Was fortunate enough to have another lesson with Stan on Friday. Drove down Thursday night and stayed at a very nice, clean and affordable Holiday Inn Express in nearby Campblesburg, KY in order that I could easily make it over to Stan's for an early start. We had the lesson on Stan's 9 foot Diamond which plays perfect.

We spent some time at first on some CTE/Pro One tune ups. Stan helped me improve picking up 45 and 60 degree perceptions. We spent some time discussing how better utilize CTE/Pro One with banking and some of the minor tweaking with english and speed that is often needed with banks.

We then got into some really powerful stuff with grip and stroke that Stan has compiled over is 40 years of pool experience. He shared numerous stroke and grip variations to address numerous shots that come up in nearly every pool game. We spent considerable time on using side english with CTE/Pro One as the base. I have been using part of this, to a degree, with reasonable success but what Stan added was substantial. Stan showed me 1/4 and 1/2 stroke shots and where in a game they can be used to really decrease the margin for error when the primary goal is making the shot. Stan showed me his method for an efficient punch shot and set up numerous situations where this shot is best employed. He showed me some specific methods (grip and stroke) to precision draw shots where the CB/OB are 3 diamonds or less apart with a total draw desired from stop shot to 8 diamonds (diamonds apart plus diamond draw back). He showed his method for power draw.

This really filled in some gaps for me on some shots that seem to come up in every match that I previously didn't have the right or most efficient solution for. Stan's solutions provide an easier method for pocketing the ball with much more precise CB control.

On top of all that, Stan then spent time showing me a number of shots the way the Professionals do it. A lot of these were game ending shots where, aside from avoiding a scratch, the only purpose is to pocket the OB. I watch a fair amount of Professional matches on streaming and often wondered why the Pros would shoot a game ending shot the way they do. Now I understand and it makes perfect sense. He also showed me a number of methods in kicking that the Pros use that decrease the margin for error and increase their opportunity for actually pocketing the ball versus just making contact.

All these things showed me how there's a lot more to CTE/Pro One than just aiming. These advanced lessons show how you utilize CTE/Pro One to find that aiming point but the User isn't limited to CCB. If done correctly, you can reference that center pocket aim line to use side english and an angled cue quite easily and efficiently. I think a lot of people with minimal understanding of REAL CTE don't realize this and I can now understand why. Incredibly powerful stuff indeed.

Thank you Stan, I am looking forward to incorporating what you showed me into my game and a return lesson in a couple of months to fine tune what I learned and "steal" even more of your wealth of knowledge acquired over 4 decades. Starting my pool passion rather late in life, I don't have 40 years to pick this up with HAMB.
 
Looks that next DVD is overdue bc some have misrepresented it.
If I were Stan I'd request them to gag it.
 
I don't know about any new DVD. Over lunch, I suggested to Stan a new DVD covering what he showed me on Friday would be a winner. I don't believe there were any misrepresentations in DVD 1 but I think I can understand why some might see it that way. If I remember correctly, Stan did include using side english in DVD 1. What he showed in DVD 1 and 2, with respect to applying side english, works well. Other than that, I'm not sure what you mean.

CTE/Pro One finds the aim line to make the ball in center pocket. Nothing more, nothing less. Why is it so many people seem to think it is, or was ever meant to be, the magic bullet that fixes stroke? Further, why would it be so difficult to imagine that a player with a good stroke and fundamentals couldn't work some subtle stroke, grip and side spin variations off of that aim line? Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any of this as clearing up misrepresentations. It would seem to be an expansion on what's been covered before and mostly, independent and separate from CTE/Pro One. All of these things Stan showed me on Friday would work just fine with good fundamentals, a solid stroke combined with knowing where the center pocket aim line is. In other words, they would work with any aiming system that finds the aim line.
 
I don't know about any new DVD. Over lunch, I suggested to Stan a new DVD covering what he showed me on Friday would be a winner. I don't believe there were any misrepresentations in DVD 1 but I think I can understand why some might see it that way. If I remember correctly, Stan did include using side english in DVD 1. What he showed in DVD 1 and 2, with respect to applying side english, works well. Other than that, I'm not sure what you mean.

CTE/Pro One finds the aim line to make the ball in center pocket. Nothing more, nothing less. Why is it so many people seem to think it is, or was ever meant to be, the magic bullet that fixes stroke? Further, why would it be so difficult to imagine that a player with a good stroke and fundamentals couldn't work some subtle stroke, grip and side spin variations off of that aim line? Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any of this as clearing up misrepresentations. It would seem to be an expansion on what's been covered before and mostly, independent and separate from CTE/Pro One. All of these things Stan showed me on Friday would work just fine with good fundamentals, a solid stroke combined with knowing where the center pocket aim line is. In other words, they would work with any aiming system that finds the aim line.

Nobcitypool, I have no clue what MISREPRESENTATIONS refer to.
I have my total work out concerning the VISUAL side of the game.
Now that the VISUAL side is complete I very well may do a DVD on what I think are the most important aspects of the PHYSICAL side.
It does not matter what I do, there will always be some who will just Hate on what I present.

Stan Shuffett
 
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Nobcitypool, I have no clue what MISREPRESENTATIONS refer to.
I have my total work out concerning the VISUAL side of the game.
Now that the VISUAL side is complete I very well may do a DVD on what I think are the most important aspects of the PHYSICAL side.
It does not matter what I do, there will always be some will just Hate on what I present.

Stan Shuffett

Please do a DVD of the physical side
 
Please do a DVD of the physical side

Joey, that is my current inclination at this time, particularly if I think interest is really there....I see so many spin their wheels with grip and stroke. I do believe that what I would present could help many players.

I have focused on the VISUAL SIDE for the last many years and I 'd like to balance things out with my take on what drives the PHYSICAL part of the game.

I am a little surprised that you would be interested in me doing a work as i described.
Heck fire , I have played with so many grips and strokes over the years, it'd make your head spin. I figured out how to put stop to it ( for me). I think it is worth sharing.

Stan Shuffett
 
Joey, that is my current inclination at this time, particularly if I think interest is really there....I see so many spin their wheels with grip and stroke. I do believe that what I would present could help many players.

I have focused on the VISUAL SIDE for the last many years and I 'd like to balance things out with my take on what drives the PHYSICAL part of the game.

I am a little surprised that you would be interested in me doing a work as i described.
Heck fire , I have played with so many grips and strokes over the years, it'd make your head spin. I figured out how to put stop to it ( for me). I think it is worth sharing.

Stan Shuffett
That would help in seeing if body movement is needed ( lower half )
And if the stroke is still in line with the shoulder/eye .
And how squirt is factored in on longer shots.
I am assuming it won't be tuck and roll Buddy Hall style.
 
That would help in seeing if body movement is needed ( lower half )
And if the stroke is still in line with the shoulder/eye .
And how squirt is factored in on longer shots.
I am assuming it won't be tuck and roll Buddy Hall style.

I did a terrific chapter on side spin on DVD2. Also, You can see all of my lower half movements on VIMEO and YouTube.

Do you not like Buddy's technique?

You are already at me a little and it is just that kind of stuff that may cause me to pull up.
I do not need it. I am sincerely advancing the BEST of what I can put together VISUALLY AND PHYSICALLY that I think can help others along their way.

Stan Shuffett
 
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Joey, that is my current inclination at this time, particularly if I think interest is really there....I see so many spin their wheels with grip and stroke. I do believe that what I would present could help many players.

I have focused on the VISUAL SIDE for the last many years and I 'd like to balance things out with my take on what drives the PHYSICAL part of the game.

I am a little surprised that you would be interested in me doing a work as i described.
Heck fire , I have played with so many grips and strokes over the years, it'd make your head spin. I figured out how to put stop to it ( for me). I think it is worth sharing.

Stan Shuffett

Great Idea Stan!
 
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