Three-Cushion Billiards. A Fascinating Stream.

sunnyone

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Dear Gentle Readers,

Back when I had a fella, we inherited a billiards table through the purchase of our loft. Gabriels Imperator, a pretty good one from what I’ve been told.

For old time’s sake (both the pretty-good boyfriend and the pretty-good table are histoire), I caught a few POV billiards games this past weekend.

A player so impressive that I jotted down his name - - Frederic Caudron - - was averaging over 2 points per inning. That didn’t sound like very much to me, given that professionals can run 15 - 20 - and up. But the commentator indicated it was pretty impressive. Apparently, a top, top amateur might average 1 point per.

Random thoughts …

> Stream Quality. Glitches? Of course. But the miracle of live streaming itself, of multiple camera angles, of savvy commentary, of an engaging chatroom … well … enjoyable is the word that springs to mind. Well done.

> Dress code. Vests, bow ties and long sleeved shirts. Coolio, except don’t the cuffs get a bit grimy? In any case, the air of casual formality provided a certain aura of significance beyond the $2,500 first place purse.

> Shooting ball. It can be either the white or the yellow ball. Any disadvantage to having the yellow one as your cue ball?

> Applause. Three appreciation forms that I noted - - subtle cue stick taps against the floor, standard handclaps and, my favorite, finger snaps like in those old beatnik poetry-reading movies.

> Position. It’s not only extremely difficult to make a successful 3-rail shot, but some of them were actually executed with position in mind. And, on the flip side, as the commentator pointed out ahead of time, there was the danger of leaving an easy shot for your opponent if a certain attempt failed.

> Shot selection. Watching one-pocket games I can at least see one or more possible choices. In those billiards games, as often than not, I often couldn’t even predict which ball would be hit first. Which is more difficult, one-pocket or billiards?

> Luck. It had never occurred to me that Dame Fortuna, in a table with no pockets, would come into play. Yet, a few times in the few games that I watched, a last-minute kiss resulted in, well, another last-minute kiss. The obverse occurred too, maybe it evens out. Although I didn’t lamp any double kisses from Mr. Caudron.

> Heat. I knew that my table could be warmed, but had no idea why. The commentator explained that heat keeps moisture out of the cloth, allowing for greater speed. Apparently heat also discourages the cushions from getting too hard and cold.

> Speed. With the top players, Mr. Caudron in particular, I was amazed at how slowly the cue ball traveled, even in some 5-cushion shots. It seemed, time and again, that there was no way his cue ball could keep rolling enough to make it there. It did. It was pointed out that English can provide a last minute propulsion off the final rail. Mr. C. probably knew that ahead of time.

> Equipment differentials. The balls, according to the commentary, are heavier than standard pool balls. The cloth is different, although I didn’t clock exactly why. More billiards players than pool players wear gloves. For some reason.

> Question. What percentage of shots entail more than three rails?

> Dumb question. Every time a player steps to the table, he choses which object ball to hit first. Would it be a good practice exercise to select the other ball? Practice only.

> Niceties. In the short time I watched, I saw the table being vacuumed. Not just brushed, but vacuumed. The fee to watch some of the world’s best players was $20. There was a photo-op session before the finals where spectators were encouraged to come down to the floor and take photos and videos. The players themselves were friendly and accommodating.

Discussing the obvious with people who know far more than I do is my life,

Sunny

P. S. My former beau contracted with a billiards instructor, a snot, to come to our loft. This simpering guru told me, condescendingly, not to even think about 3-cushion shots until I could regularly make 50 consecutive billiards.

Okay, maybe it was his tone, more than the actual advise, that smarted. Clot-faced wet.

P. P. S. Of the two wine-induced cloth replacements, one was absolutely not my fault.
 
An average of 2 is phenomenal, from what I remember about 3-Cushion! If you can average 1, you should be on par with the professional players, I believe. Remember, those are just averages. Last I knew, and, it was a while ago, the tournament high run was 15, by a Spaniard, who got his picture on the cover of Billiards Digest. You instructor sounds like an condescending *****, but in the old days you were expected to be proficient at Straight Rail Billiards before tackling 3-Cushion. Pool players who only dabble in 3-Cushion don't do to well as a rule. I only played once in a while and my high run was 3 for several years, missing the forth billiard by the thickness of a sheet of paper. 3-Cushion, not Straight Rail. Sounds like you were watching something that may have been Optional Cue Ball, I'm not sure. In an ordinary game, one player has one cue ball and the other player the other cue ball. There was a guy who used to come in the room I played in once or twice a month, he was the brother of a regular, he only practiced 3-Cushion. One day he had a run of 8 and everyone, including me, was impressed! Great game, I wish I could play it more now!

Edit:If I remember right, Simonis used to be used for Billiards because it was faster. They may use 760 for Billiards, I'm not sure. In McGoorty, Danny McGoorty talks about the trials of learning 3-Cushion.
 
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I too find watching 3 cushion billiards facinating. In other pool games I at least can see the shots, and have some idea what the shooter is going to attempt and how it will be executed, even if I dont have the skill to do it. In 3 Cushion, I cant even tell what is a good position from one that is a bad position leading to a difficult shot.
 
Very nice post, Sunny.
I'm glad you enjoyed the broadcast, of which, many of those matches will go to my YouTube Channel for further review.

Gilbert Najm was responsible for a lot of your newfound education during this live stream and I honestly could not have relayed this information on the game of billiards without him. I am but a novice to the game.

He is a Room Coordinator at the Elk's Lodge in Burbank and can be found there almost daily working with players, old and new.

If you ever need his contact info, feel free to email me at povpool@gmail.com for a referral.

Best to you! - Daniel Busch

Dear Gentle Readers,

Back when I had a fella, we inherited a billiards table through the purchase of our loft. Gabriels Imperator, a pretty good one from what I’ve been told.

For old time’s sake (both the pretty-good boyfriend and the pretty-good table are histoire), I caught a few POV billiards games this past weekend.

A player so impressive that I jotted down his name - - Frederic Caudron - - was averaging over 2 points per inning. That didn’t sound like very much to me, given that professionals can run 15 - 20 - and up. But the commentator indicated it was pretty impressive. Apparently, a top, top amateur might average 1 point per.

Random thoughts …

> Stream Quality. Glitches? Of course. But the miracle of live streaming itself, of multiple camera angles, of savvy commentary, of an engaging chatroom … well … enjoyable is the word that springs to mind. Well done.

> Dress code. Vests, bow ties and long sleeved shirts. Coolio, except don’t the cuffs get a bit grimy? In any case, the air of casual formality provided a certain aura of significance beyond the $2,500 first place purse.

> Shooting ball. It can be either the white or the yellow ball. Any disadvantage to having the yellow one as your cue ball?

> Applause. Three appreciation forms that I noted - - subtle cue stick taps against the floor, standard handclaps and, my favorite, finger snaps like in those old beatnik poetry-reading movies.

> Position. It’s not only extremely difficult to make a successful 3-rail shot, but some of them were actually executed with position in mind. And, on the flip side, as the commentator pointed out ahead of time, there was the danger of leaving an easy shot for your opponent if a certain attempt failed.

> Shot selection. Watching one-pocket games I can at least see one or more possible choices. In those billiards games, as often than not, I often couldn’t even predict which ball would be hit first. Which is more difficult, one-pocket or billiards?

> Luck. It had never occurred to me that Dame Fortuna, in a table with no pockets, would come into play. Yet, a few times in the few games that I watched, a last-minute kiss resulted in, well, another last-minute kiss. The obverse occurred too, maybe it evens out. Although I didn’t lamp any double kisses from Mr. Caudron.

> Heat. I knew that my table could be warmed, but had no idea why. The commentator explained that heat keeps moisture out of the cloth, allowing for greater speed. Apparently heat also discourages the cushions from getting too hard and cold.

> Speed. With the top players, Mr. Caudron in particular, I was amazed at how slowly the cue ball traveled, even in some 5-cushion shots. It seemed, time and again, that there was no way his cue ball could keep rolling enough to make it there. It did. It was pointed out that English can provide a last minute propulsion off the final rail. Mr. C. probably knew that ahead of time.

> Equipment differentials. The balls, according to the commentary, are heavier than standard pool balls. The cloth is different, although I didn’t clock exactly why. More billiards players than pool players wear gloves. For some reason.

> Question. What percentage of shots entail more than three rails?

> Dumb question. Every time a player steps to the table, he choses which object ball to hit first. Would it be a good practice exercise to select the other ball? Practice only.

> Niceties. In the short time I watched, I saw the table being vacuumed. Not just brushed, but vacuumed. The fee to watch some of the world’s best players was $20. There was a photo-op session before the finals where spectators were encouraged to come down to the floor and take photos and videos. The players themselves were friendly and accommodating.

Discussing the obvious with people who know far more than I do is my life,

Sunny

P. S. My former beau contracted with a billiards instructor, a snot, to come to our loft. This simpering guru told me, condescendingly, not to even think about 3-cushion shots until I could regularly make 50 consecutive billiards.

Okay, maybe it was his tone, more than the actual advise, that smarted. Clot-faced wet.

P. P. S. Of the two wine-induced cloth replacements, one was absolutely not my fault.
 
Sunnyone, good post, but what are you trying to say in your first sentence. Back when I had a fella....
Thanks.


Possible discreet translation?

...a loft

...a pretty good boyfriend

...a pretty good table

...spilled wine on table cloth - twice

....sadly, both boyfriend and table now history



How could either remain as a cruel reminder of better times gone by..



...please tell us at least that it was a full bodied red that got spilled..


Always nice to hear from ya uptown..keep em coming:thumbup:

ps: you know I'm just bustin your carambolas:eek:

pps: keep it classy..like the Beard said...'He was a duke of some fkn place'.
 
An average of 2 is phenomenal, from what I remember about 3-Cushion! If you can average 1, you should be on par with the professional players, I believe. Remember, those are just averages. Last I knew, and, it was a while ago, the tournament high run was 15, by a Spaniard, who got his picture on the cover of Billiards Digest. You instructor sounds like an condescending *****, but in the old days you were expected to be proficient at Straight Rail Billiards before tackling 3-Cushion. Pool players who only dabble in 3-Cushion don't do to well as a rule. I only played once in a while and my high run was 3 for several years, missing the forth billiard by the thickness of a sheet of paper. 3-Cushion, not Straight Rail. Sounds like you were watching something that may have been Optional Cue Ball, I'm not sure. In an ordinary game, one player has one cue ball and the other player the other cue ball. There was a guy who used to come in the room I played in once or twice a month, he was the brother of a regular, he only practiced 3-Cushion. One day he had a run of 8 and everyone, including me, was impressed! Great game, I wish I could play it more now!

Edit:If I remember right, Simonis used to be used for Billiards because it was faster. They may use 760 for Billiards, I'm not sure. In McGoorty, Danny McGoorty talks about the trials of learning 3-Cushion.

Nobody has averaged two in a world championship yet....but they're
coming closer every year. I think Dick Jaspers did three in a minor once.

28 has been ran four times in tournaments, the first by Komori.

To me, running 10 is the equivalent of a century at snooker or straight pool.

760 Simonis is faster than 860...to give you the idea of speed by numbers...
carom cloth is 300...the balls retain their spin much longer, making
many shots possible that don't exist on pool cloth.

Pool balls are 2.25 diameter..carom balls are about 2.42
 
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