Shane's racking "trick"

arps

arps

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I just read this from Niels Feijen's Facebook page:

"Sorry but i can't help it to write something negative about the us open(rack mechanics) championships. I just watched Shane beat dennis on centre court and he made the corner ball 9 out of 11 times, where the entire field was happy to get a ball down on that table. When you rack you're not allowed to touch the rack once you lift it so he touches the 1 ball when the rack is still on, creates gaps and gets the corner ball. Genius trick and an absolute monster player but i truly feel this break format with rack your own is chewed out, old school and done with!! It was created to speed up the game/racking and now it's whoever knows the most tricks/cheats gets the edge. Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break...It's no rocket science. Same rack for everybody.
My prediction, Shane will win his third title in a row, he's playing great and knows the tricks."
 
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just heard the commentator say that the other day, shane was practicing his break over and over and over. He also said, shane said one day a week his practices only his break for 5 hours. FIVE HOURS ! who does that ?


so is it rack tricks/mechanics or is it a lot of hard work ? probably both
 
They ALL do it if you let'em.Dechaine did it to Dennis with the rack off and Dennis complained to Jay.
So, he went to fingering the 1 ball with the rack on.
It's BS. Big tourneys should have a racker for every table.
Too many "rack mech' in pool now. I've been gamblin for 40+ years and never let anyone rack their own.
Its crazy. I love loser racks.
They try to throw the rack on you, but they leave cracks. I read the cracks and know how and where to break from.
push out forever!
 
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arps said:
I just read this from Niels Feijen's Facebook page:

"Sorry but i can't help it to write something negative about the us open(rack mechanics) championships. I just watched Shane beat dennis on centre court and he made the corner ball 9 out of 11 times, where the entire field was happy to get a ball down on that table. When you rack you're not allowed to touch the rack once you lift it so he touches the 1 ball when the rack is still on, creates gaps and gets the corner ball. Genius trick and an absolute monster player but i truly feel this break format with rack your own is chewed out, old school and done with!! It was created to speed up the game/racking and now it's whoever knows the most tricks/cheats gets the edge. Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break...It's no rocket science. Same rack for everybody.
My prediction, Shane will win his third title in a row, he's playing great and knows the tricks."
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Thanks arps
Wow that is an exposé
I agree with Niels "Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break" and neutral racker also
:£
 
I can understand argument for alternate break. It makes is so hard for players to come back and win. Plus no break and run packages.
 
I figured it would happen...just not out of Shane. I started a thread about rack mechanics and got very few responses. He probably wasn't the only one though. And....maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Have to see it for myself I guess. If he was....then this is to Shane.......SHAME ON YOU. You can win without this crap.
 
I prefer neutral racker, 1 on the spot, break from anywhere, 3 point rule, but the the truth is that sounds like sour grapes to me. They complain about Shane's "racking" when the 1 is on the spot so they change it to 9 on the spot. He still kicks ass so they complain more. How about the dude is just good and practices an important part of the game. No on second thought I'm sure none of that practice, good shooting or great safety play has anything to do with it. It has to be that he barely touches the 1 ball sometimes while he's racking. Give me a break dude.
 
arps said:
I just read this from Niels Feijen's Facebook page:

"Sorry but i can't help it to write something negative about the us open(rack mechanics) championships. I just watched Shane beat dennis on centre court and he made the corner ball 9 out of 11 times, where the entire field was happy to get a ball down on that table. When you rack you're not allowed to touch the rack once you lift it so he touches the 1 ball when the rack is still on, creates gaps and gets the corner ball. Genius trick and an absolute monster player but i truly feel this break format with rack your own is chewed out, old school and done with!! It was created to speed up the game/racking and now it's whoever knows the most tricks/cheats gets the edge. Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break...It's no rocket science. Same rack for everybody.
My prediction, Shane will win his third title in a row, he's playing great and knows the tricks."
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...very interesting, but from what I saw...each rack was inspected by the respective opponent or a referee at least 90% of the time... So are these "magic gaps" or something that only shane can see? It certainly does seem like sour grapes.

And for what it's worth, Dennis was also touching the one ball while the rack was on.
 
If its rack ur own, you better be a 'rack mech' because everybody does it. GET RID OF RACK -ur- OWN
Pushout forever!
 
BJTyler said:
...very interesting, but from what I saw...each rack was inspected by the respective opponent or a referee at least 90% of the time... So are these "magic gaps" or something that only shane can see? It certainly does seem like sour grapes.

And for what it's worth, Dennis was also touching the one ball while the rack was on.
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I'm a fan of Dennis, but I'm not a fan of his racking.

Here are his first 3 racks,

1
7,8
5,9,6
3,4
2

1
8,7
5,9,6
3,4
2

1
6,8
5,9,7
4,3
2
 
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pocket said:
sounds like a whole lot of sour grapes
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Didn't Niels and every other player get to rack their own, too? So...why didn't he tickle the one or pattern rack or loosen the back three? If tickling the one is a foul, why wasn't it called? Just like when Corey Deuel comes up with a series of different patterns and soft breaks leaving a three or four ball wired for a shortcut 9 our of 10 times everybody else wants to cry foul...I call it genius on an even playing field. Go spend 5 hours figuring out the break like Shane or Corey or Dechaine and even the odds--or quit whining. Barry makes the rules; if he wants rack your own or a neutral racker, that's the game. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

First, Dennis gets exposed for not calling an obvious foul on himself.

Now, Shane gets accused of "trick racking" by Niels Feijen.

I'm sure there is lots of other scum we can skim out there if we can just reach a little deeper into the sewer.

I once played Niels Feijen in the 9 ball tournament at the Derby City Classic and he waited until I was facing him and started "drying" his cue with a white towel was moving it up and down so fast (while I was down on the shot) that I thought he was going to create a fire. He did shark me and I let him know that I didn't appreciate him sharking me. He didn't need that edge to beat me but he used it anyway. I think I win like 2 games against him. Lol Oh well, now you know the rest of the story and now I'll wallow in the mud with the rest of you. :sorry:

JoeyA
 
spartan said:
Are you sure at least 90% ???
:)
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For guys like SVB, MD, and CD it certainly seemed like 90%. Whether this is deserved or not is not clear to me.

Fact is I've seen SVB every bit as dominant -if not more so- when using the magic rack.
 
Didn't watch that match, are we talking about the corner ball or the one behind it? I predicted that something could happen with the ball behind the corner one, the corner ball is too high with 9 on the spot.
I agree rack your own is a parody, I don't agree with alternate breaks in 9ball.
Magic rack, rack for the opponent, it should work fine.
Petros
 
takeitdown said:
You would put 23 behind 1 and 78 behind 9?? When racking for yourself?
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There is no choice for the two (must be at the back) however, the 6 remaining free balls are supposed to be racked randomly. Those three do not seem random.

Furthermore, it was VERY clear from watching Orcollo rack, that was he was consciously swapping and switching balls around.
 
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