Im sure shane would be happy to play him like a 10 a head set using these rules . And shane would horse f..k him too so I say niels stop crying and jyst play better.
Shane's racking "trick"
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I don't know Jay, but everything I've ever heard about him says he's a straight shooter. If that's not good enough for you, Jay, who was checking Shane's racks, also seems to be good friends with Dennis. At least, he posts here to advertise Dennis's availability for lessons and matches, and I think I've read that when he's on the West Coast, Dennis often stays at Jay's house. (I'm surprised no one has mentioned this.) Add all of that to Jay's general reputation, and I am as confident as possible without mindreading powers that Shane wasn't rigging the rack.
Congrats to Shane!
Cory
Niels Facebook post and other comments by players, etc
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152808387263872&id=316778628871
If Niels has a beef with something, he's deserving of respect when he brings it to light and EVERYONE should pay attention. That guy carries himself with more professionalism than most everyone out there. He's earned the right to sound off.
Best way to resolve this- interview rack mech experts like Joe Tucker (better interview anonymously). Show them videos (past and present) of top players and ask them which players are rack artists
Certain players are known as rack artists. Doesn't make it true though. Unless Joe could see a straight down view of the rack, no way he could be sure the rack was rigged.
Sounds too me just a bunch of BS WHINING.... Some more bait for the Shane haters too chew on get over it kids he's the best on the playground. How bout this Niels won world title twice was he cheating the rack all week both times.... cmon put the time in SVB does and see what u can learn by it
I want to hear from Jay! I know he is reading this thread. Your are going to have to answer the questions eventually anyway. With all the crap thats been slung around this thread, I want some official responses.
Before the semis started Jay specifically told SVB he could not manipulate the rack,
just bunch them up (from behind) and that's it. Neither Shane nor Nick/Dennis touched
the balls any other way.
gr. Dave
just bunch them up (from behind) and that's it. Neither Shane nor Nick/Dennis touched
the balls any other way.
gr. Dave
That is the most ridiculous thing I read in this thread. It was nothing more than whining and sour grapes.
If the racks were being checked by Jay and Dennis, then Neils FB post was nothing more than pure speculation. I have always thought of Neils as a very classy guy, but I'm not sure now. That FB post was about as classless as it gets.
It absolutely could have had something to do with his winning..
One can pick up natural hair oil on their fingers, and when this is applied to the contact point that most players hit when breaking 9 ball, there is now now friction between the 1 and CB, and the CB will climb over the 1 ball on the break, usually launching off the table, fouling.
Mike Zimmerman told me about this trick sometime in the late 90's...
When your opponent is racking for you, NEVER allow them to touch the 1 ball from the front.
These sorts of shenanigans are the entire REASON for playing with rack-your-own rules...
Short Bus Russ - C Player
Honestly, I think this might be Neil's frustration at coming up short at the Open (again), and his thinking that he may never win this event....
Short Bus Russ - C Player
I noticed that the post by Neils has been deleted? I couldn't find it so maybe he was getting flack for accusing Shane of his "trick"
I've never heard of that but I'll test it . I may learn something new
Doesn't matter if he deleted it or not. Its been copied and pasted here on AZ. It will be here forever. I still want to know the truth....and I do not think we have heard it completely yet.
That's the point..
There IS no "trick". Shane just hits the 1 ball at the proper angle and speed much more often than his opponents.
This is just whiney pros who can't beat him and Shane haters who think there is some shortcut...
Short Bus Russ
Wait! So the only way for me to break like that is tons of hours of practice. Damn! That's no fun. Fine. Anyone have a BreakRak I can borrow? (kidding)
I have to admit I've heard rumors that there is some trick with a gap on the bottom side of the rack but I have yet to find anyone who can demonstrate it in real life. I don't think I ever want to be the kind of player who would use something like that but just like counting cards or any other trick I am curious if it is possible.
If there is such a thing as a racking trick is being angry at a player who gets caught for it any different than being angry with the player in professional sports who gets caught doing steroids or EPO? Sure, it's disappointing but most likely a lot of other players are doing it who just didn't get caught.
Buy Joe Tucker's racking Secrets...you'll be glad you did!
I bought it so that I could at least be knowledgeable after I had a guy pull some moves on me. I always strive for a tight rack but it's almost impossible when playing on worn equipment like we find in most pool rooms.
Ugh! Why do pool rooms do that? They spend anywhere from $1k to $10k or more on a 9 foot table and then buy the cheapest damn rack on the planet.
I am sure there is some really cool trick to getting a tight rack with that cheap, miserable plastic thing they have in a lot of sports bars but I definitely don't know how to do it yet.
BTW, I did order an Accu-Rack recently and that thing does work well. I also have a magic rack at home so I have gone back and forth between them and both get a pretty tight rack every time. Why not just require template racking and move on past some of this nonsense?