Given the current state of play, if the US team have it and the Euro team don't, why the hell would you want it? :thumbup:
USA vs. Europe Styles
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Given the current state of play, if the US team have it and the Euro team don't, why the hell would you want it? :thumbup:
That's because most of them started out playing snooker and where drilled into a more mechanical play style. Neils is that way because he works his mechanics like a robot to make sure every hit is correct.
The Euros are not playing tight, that is just how they play.
As far as I know Gray is the only one who started out playing snooker. Not sure about Nikos, but Daz and Boyes both came from English 8 ball.
That's actually what most pool players say when comparing the snooker and pool stance/stroke/fundamentals. In snooker, the focus is on alignment and accuracy. In pool, the focus is on "comfort."
Trust me, after you convert from the pool stance to a snooker stance, what at first seemed "rigid" and "uncomfortable," quickly becomes natural and comfortable as the body adapts to it. To most snooker fundamental devotees, pool fundamentals look loosey-goosey.
Yup, the Americans don't look fluid at all. In fact, with the exception of Shane and Justin Hall, they look like they're losing confidence.
-Sean <-- ever hopeful that the US Team knuckles down
Tap, tap
I don't know your definition of "fluid" and "rigid" but the Europeans players stance look as solid as a rock. Also, they can put the CB effortlessly wherever they wanted to, that's fluid for me.
the USA guys not only move the CB but also their body when they shoot, I assume that's what you mean by fluid
Tap, tap lol
Well I don't think I really care.
Anyway, the fact is under pressure we better slow down. Trying to keep the rhythm may not the good idea. results never lie. If you watch the mosconi cup in the last few years you could see how the rhythm players like Rodney, Hatch, Earl, Shane (this year), Bergman,etc... played badly.
No time to catch a rhythm, get comofortable, lose nerves, or catch a gear in races to 5. I take solid fundamentals there.
LOL funny
Euro players look like perfectionist with their style of play and also their game is more simple.
Can't wait to play in US soil again!
Seriously because the only way that would work is if Euro players start playing worst, at the same time US players get more comfortable in longer races so will Euro players. So is not that easy to say that in longer races USA would have it, except for races to 100 with Shane on TAR table LOL.
The mechanics they learn though are from the snooker school of playing. I should not have said they all started with snooker but rather learned the "snooker way".
I think too many players in the US try to get a good looking stroke going that fails when they try to put power into the ball. Their tip placement accuracy goes off. Not even just the pros but any player you can find, they seem to all try to copy the Philipino stroke which does not work well for most players. I did the same thing, I could not get past a low to mid B level until I stopped trying to play like Eferen.
Well I think the Americans have more art in their game. They play to win, but they also play because it's fun! Each player has his unique style. His game is an expression of himself.
The Euros have almost no individuality, just stand "correctly" and deliver the cue like a robot. Yawnn. Why? I guess because they win more races to x in 9ball. They play only to win. They don't look like they're having fun, they look like they're at war.
Actually, to me, they act like a bunch of crybaby apa players on league night.
That's my guess about you advocates for the "snooooker style." Not a lot of individuality or imagination. Just crybabies who are fixated on the score, and who don't see the joy in the game.
The Euros have almost no individuality, just stand "correctly" and deliver the cue like a robot. Yawnn. Why? I guess because they win more races to x in 9ball. They play only to win. They don't look like they're having fun, they look like they're at war.
Actually, to me, they act like a bunch of crybaby apa players on league night.
That's my guess about you advocates for the "snooooker style." Not a lot of individuality or imagination. Just crybabies who are fixated on the score, and who don't see the joy in the game.
lol...
I don't see any more art in the Americans' games at all. And I'm not sure where this "having fun" talk comes from either. Not that either team is really there to do that first and foremost, but if either team is more relaxed and having fun then it's the Euros (although winning at this point helps with that
).I guess when you are a APA handicap 4, I can see where you are coming from.
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Position play and getting the right angle on balls is important, and seems team
USA gets too straight or just plain bad position because of the art in their game.
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Wow...do you know what's "fun"? WINNING is fun. As far as "playing to win"...ummm, hell yes they are paying to win! I play to win whenever I play. I suppose fun to you is losing and giving your money away.
For all intensive purposes, competition is "war", especially on this stage. Your mentality is more along the lines of "crybaby APA players".
Yah, they got ALL the rolls this year, and last, and the one before that and the one before that.....
Maybe this is an indication that the rigid/snooker style is more effective than the flowing/pool style.
Maybe so, maybe no. What about Efren, Earl, Busty, Shane, Mosconi, Greenleaf, Rafael Martinez, Buddy Hall, Mike Sigel, Allan Hopkins...?