Tip preference
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All well known (medium to hard tips) behave exactly the same at medium to high speed shots, at slow speed shots (one pocket game mostly) you have to experiment and adjust to the minimum force required to move the CB in straight line to over come the cloth friction. So no matter what tip you use you have to know this fact and adjust. I for myself, bought a box of Lepro medium 50 tips 20 years ago, and still have some, using same kind for life is essential IMO.
I can't argue.. they seem to mushroom all the time and need shaped constantly like the new moori's do. I'm going to give the predator tips a try I think.
Nobody can tell you what tip to put on. You have to make that determination yourself. The "hit" and "feel" of a tip is extremely subjective to the user. Pick one, play with it...if you don't like it, pick a different one. Sooner or later you'll find a tip you like, for the way you play.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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If your asking which of those three, I can't offer any advice. I used mooris for awhile a long time ago, but I'v heard they are different than they used to be. The consensus of the old time Moori guy's is they don't make the grade. But all of this is completely subjective, they could play well for you. I can make suggestions based on what I do know. You can go with Kamui. Price aside they perform well. I personally have fell in love with Dawg duds.
Dawg duds are sold on this forum for a great price just do a search. They have a great firm hit and the feel is clean. You get spin a little easier than most hard tips I have tried. I usually have to adjust my stroke to be able to play with hard tips, with these I can use my learned mechanics and execute exactly how I want to. The best tips I have ever used! They hold shape great as well, are inexpensive and a purchase helps out a member of this community, you can't go wrong! Anyhow, good luck. The pursuit of the "perfect" tip is the holy grail of a pool players existence.
Try some tips and play close attention to how they perform. Also play close attention to how you play. There is a symbiotic relationship between your mechanics and the performance of a tip. You will have to adjust to any new tip you try. When I was experimenting with my stroke mechanics trying to adjust to hard tips, there was a lot of good progress made with my mechanics that carried over when I found a tip that was better suited to my game. It is all trial and error. Some people forego this process and find a tip they feel comfortable with early on and stick with them. For others there is always something else they are looking for. For most it's somewhere inbetween. No tip will give you a new gear, but a tip that is improper for your game can hinder your ability to reach your highest gear. Again good luck! This can be an arduous process.
Dawg duds are sold on this forum for a great price just do a search. They have a great firm hit and the feel is clean. You get spin a little easier than most hard tips I have tried. I usually have to adjust my stroke to be able to play with hard tips, with these I can use my learned mechanics and execute exactly how I want to. The best tips I have ever used! They hold shape great as well, are inexpensive and a purchase helps out a member of this community, you can't go wrong! Anyhow, good luck. The pursuit of the "perfect" tip is the holy grail of a pool players existence.
Try some tips and play close attention to how they perform. Also play close attention to how you play. There is a symbiotic relationship between your mechanics and the performance of a tip. You will have to adjust to any new tip you try. When I was experimenting with my stroke mechanics trying to adjust to hard tips, there was a lot of good progress made with my mechanics that carried over when I found a tip that was better suited to my game. It is all trial and error. Some people forego this process and find a tip they feel comfortable with early on and stick with them. For others there is always something else they are looking for. For most it's somewhere inbetween. No tip will give you a new gear, but a tip that is improper for your game can hinder your ability to reach your highest gear. Again good luck! This can be an arduous process.
+1 on the dawg duds..."pooldawg8" is the guy who makes them,about $3 each.I've tried most all tips,I have found nothing to compare.I even break with them,no mushrooming at all,just mild scuff every so often !!!
I know it's not on your list but..... Renfro has the vest tips I've ever played with
As far as your list goes.... I think the Tiger last longer
i'm on my last old school moori medium, give zan tips a whirl. After it's broke in, have it re-cut and burnished once, one of the nicest tips out there IMO
but your right, the new mooris suck the big one
Single layer all the way for 60+ years. Tried three types of layered tips that came with the cues. I hated them. I kept fouling on my practice strokes. I cut one way down to about a new single layer would be. It was an Ever-something. It didn't play bad. Funny I can get used to a 6" extention on one end of the cue, but can't get use to 1/4" more tip on the other end. Johnnyt
Experiment
Tips and shafts, there is no magic. Efren uses Elk Master and SVB medium or hard Kamui Brown layered. Both great players using tips and shafts that are different. Over and over again it has been proven great pool can be shot using old school technology, such as cheap Elk Master and LePro tips and regular hard maple shafts on a plain "sneaky pete" cue. Tips remind me of tires, lots of different types move the vehicle just fine. Each dedicated pool player has to find "their tip". But, asking around on here is smart as their is a wealth of wisdom on this forum.
Tips and shafts, there is no magic. Efren uses Elk Master and SVB medium or hard Kamui Brown layered. Both great players using tips and shafts that are different. Over and over again it has been proven great pool can be shot using old school technology, such as cheap Elk Master and LePro tips and regular hard maple shafts on a plain "sneaky pete" cue. Tips remind me of tires, lots of different types move the vehicle just fine. Each dedicated pool player has to find "their tip". But, asking around on here is smart as their is a wealth of wisdom on this forum.
Naji,
You had better cherish those old Lepros & change them less often. The repair guy at my local hall says they are now extremely hit & miss. They are very inconsistent & often takes 3 to 5 tips to get what the customer was used to.
Best Wishes,
Rick
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Good Advice.
Tires on a car would be a fairly good analogy... Nothing like having a high performance car and not being able to get traction because of low performance tires... Pool can be played with anything from a piece of belt leather to a 100 durometer phenolic tip but likely those extremes will not be to the benfit of anyone's game...
Find a tip that makes the cueball do what you imagine in your mind and that doesn't double cross you at times...
Our Ki-Techs come currently in Soft, Medium, Medium Hard and Hard and we are working on a Super Soft and Medium Soft so that there will be something in our line that will do just that for most players...
Each of our "hardness" grades are actually engineered around their COR reading.... Our Soft, Medium and Medium Hard are all within a few points in "hardness" on a durometer but there is a world of difference between how each plays.....
Chris