Carlo Biado is World #1

[nine_ball6970]

Is it bugging you that bad, to know?

Actually it is because you said how cool it was for Shane to win the USBTC for a third time and downplayed the tournaments Carlo Biado finished high in to be ranked number one by WPA by calling them silly. Is it because most of those tournaments are overseas so they are less important?

I do not hate Shane. He is an amazing player. I just think it is sad how people on AZB put him on a pedestal and rarely give others credit for their accomplishments.

Carlo, Darren, and Ko Pin Yi have had amazing years but none of it counts because they won tournaments or exhibitions. They didn't win the races to 100 which are the only standard by which a player's ability is measured on AZB.

 

[DAVE_M]

Actually it is because you said how cool it was for Shane to win the USBTC for a third time and downplayed the tournaments Carlo Biado finished high in to be ranked number one by WPA by calling them silly. Is it because most of those tournaments are overseas so they are less important?

I do not hate Shane. He is an amazing player. I just think it is sad how people on AZB put him on a pedestal and rarely give others credit for their accomplishments.

Carlo, Darren, and Ko Pin Yi have had amazing years but none of it counts because they won tournaments or exhibitions. They didn't win the races to 100 which are the only standard by which a player's ability is measured on AZB.

I 'bolded' the answer you were looking for.

BTW, I never said anything Negative about Carlo. He's a phenomenal player.

IIRC, the original question was why did Shane go to the USBTC and not the WPA World 10-ball Event, so I don't know why you are obsessed with Carlo.

 

[arps]

Shane went to the USBTC and won the 9-ball event, for the third consecutive time. Why would you be disappointed in that?

im disappointed because the top players in the world were in the world 10-ball, and the best in america (and potentially the best in the world) wasnt able to participate.

 

[spartan]

I find it interesting to read all of the threads about it being a joke for pros to play on bar tables. Like the tables are beneath them but when Shane wins then it is "cool-er".

It seems as if a tournament or ranking system is only credible if Shane wins or is #1 in the rankings..

Muahahaha Good post
You see it is 2 sets of rules. One set for Shane set by these self appointed Shane spokespersons and other set for other players. Shane is a class act, a real pro but a lot of these drivel is propagated by these self appointed Shane spokespersons.
Most here are diplomatic and do not say it but pros should not play on 7 ft tourneys. I mean why are pros stealing lunch from amateurs , bangers?
There should be recreational exhibition/"meet and play" events if amateurs , bangers want to play with their idol pro players but not in a tourney
:grin:

 

[spartan]

Bergman beat Biado at Hard Times, does that mean Bergman is a World Champion now?

Obviously you are not very bright
Biado is Ranked #1 not World Champion. You are confusing Rankings with titles. There are many metrics to measure players - rankings and titles are 2. There are also metrics like prizemoney rankings, win- loss record, H2H record. There was mention here Fargo ratings which is a very good metric similar to ELO ratings in chess
Rankings is overall aggregated metric of few major tourneys performances/ matches so obviously saying using just 1 match Bergman beating Biado is silly. Rankings measures performance of a player vs rest of players who play in these tourneys. If Bergman has better H2H record than Biado, it does not mean that Bergman is better then rest of players.
WPA ranking is like CPI or Dow Jones and Bergman v Biado match is like price of a consumer item or a stock
of cos rankings are not perfect but if most major events all over world get ranking points then the ranking can be quite good indicator - right now maybe there are some events that do not have ranking points yet.

 

[linds]

im disappointed because the top players in the world were in the world 10-ball, and the best in america (and potentially the best in the world) wasnt able to participate.

cant blame shane for passing the paquiao event ( remember the last / he was quite pissed off with the event) and flying to gensan is no joke / expensive than playing a much easier tourney in US

 

[one stroke]

im disappointed because the top players in the world were in the world 10-ball, and the best in america (and potentially the best in the world) wasnt able to participate.

Well I'll take Wu both Ko's Yang and possibly Biado before I get to Shane


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[leto1776]

People smoking dat crack, belittling Biado's accomplishments.

 

[DAVE_M]

Obviously you are not very bright
Biado is Ranked #1 not World Champion. You are confusing Rankings with titles. There are many metrics to measure players - rankings and titles are 2. There are also metrics like prizemoney rankings, win- loss record, H2H record. There was mention here Fargo ratings which is a very good metric similar to ELO ratings in chess
Rankings is overall aggregated metric of few major tourneys performances/ matches so obviously saying using just 1 match Bergman beating Biado is silly. Rankings measures performance of a player vs rest of players who play in these tourneys. If Bergman has better H2H record than Biado, it does not mean that Bergman is better then rest of players.
WPA ranking is like CPI or Dow Jones and Bergman v Biado match is like price of a consumer item or a stock
of cos rankings are not perfect but if most major events all over world get ranking points then the ranking can be quite good indicator - right now maybe there are some events that do not have ranking points yet.

I assumed the smiley was enough to indicate my sarcasm, but it went over your head as well.

 

[jsp]

Of the WPA #1 rank? Sure. He played in the silly events.

What makes them "silly"? Shane played in a lot of the "silly" events as well.

If you're insinuating that he's the #1 player in the world. Then no.

I'm "insinuating" that the WPA #1 ranked player actually means that he's pretty damn good. I'm not downplaying the accomplishment of being the WPA #1 ranked player, unlike what you've said.

BTW, I never said anything Negative about Carlo. He's a phenomenal player.

IIRC, the original question was why did Shane go to the USBTC and not the WPA World 10-ball Event, so I don't know why you are obsessed with Carlo.

Many of us are in defense of Biado because you brought up your example of your SL2 teammate in your initial post, remember? This is what you posted...

Carlo is ranked #1 by WPA Points. My teammate is an SL2 and was once the #1 ranked player in the NOLA APA North Shore Division. See what I'm getting at?

If your original intent was to praise Shane and argue that he's the best, that certainly didn't come across in your post. Instead, you simply came off as dumping on Biado. That is why I and others have objected.

 

[DAVE_M]

What makes them "silly"? Shane played in a lot of the "silly" events as well.


I'm "insinuating" that the WPA #1 ranked player actually means that he's pretty damn good. I'm not downplaying the accomplishment of being the WPA #1 ranked player, unlike what you've said.


Many of us are in defense of Biado because you brought up your example of your SL2 teammate in your initial post, remember? This is what you posted...


If your original intent was to praise Shane and argue that he's the best, that certainly didn't come across in your post. Instead, you simply came off as dumping on Biado. That is why I and others have objected.

:deadhorse:

Everything that I've posted has everything to do with the WPA and nothing to do with Biado or Shane.

 

[arps]

Of the WPA #1 rank? Sure. He played in the silly events.
If you're insinuating that he's the #1 player in the world. Then no.

i'll enumerate to you the events last year where Carlo Biado participated:
China Open (made it to the semis, beat SVB 11-4 in the quarters)
World 9-Ball (finished 5th-8th, same as SVB)
CBSA International Open (made it to last-32)
All-Japan Championship (made it to last-32)

which among these events is "silly"?

 

[one stroke]

People smoking dat crack, belittling Biado's accomplishments.

Yes it was a nice second place finish




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[DAVE_M]

i'll enumerate to you the events last year where Carlo Biado participated:
China Open (made it to the semis, beat SVB 11-4 in the quarters)
World 9-Ball (finished 5th-8th, same as SVB)
CBSA International Open (made it to last-32)
All-Japan Championship (made it to last-32)

which among these events is "silly"?

Anything involved with the WPA is silly. That's my opinion.


All you folks are getting your panties in a bunch, because I think it's cooler that Shane stayed here and won the USBTC for the third consecutive time, than Biado getting to the top of a leader board.

Carlo is the WPA #1 ranked player... Cool...
Shane pulled off his third consecutive USBTC 9-ball win. That's cool-er.

In what part of that post did I say anything about Carlo not being a good player? At what point in that post did I 'belittle' Carlo's accomplishments?

If I were a doctor, I'd prescribe you all a heavy does of 'chill pills'

 

[Keith Jawahir]

As far as I see it, the American pool champion won an American pool tournament on American soil instead of travelling internationally to face international competition. Nothing wrong with that. Just gotta call it what it is. Plus he's probably still a little sore from the shenanigans from the last Pacquiao event, which Biado also fell victim to, IIRC. If that's the case, Shane probably skipped the event in protest. Again, I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[arps]

Anything involved with the WPA is silly. That's my opinion.


All you folks are getting your panties in a bunch, because I think it's cooler that Shane stayed here and won the USBTC for the third consecutive time, than Biado getting to the top of a leader board.

maybe if Ignacio stayed in the Philippines and preferred to join the "Silly WPA World 10-ball", then Shane would have won the USBTC 8-ball and 10-ball events as well. that would be way cooler!

 

[DAVE_M]

maybe if Ignacio stayed in the Philippines and preferred to join the silly WPA world 10-ball, then Shane would have won the USBTC 8-ball and 10-ball event as well. that would be way cooler!:thumbup:

I would have preferred everyone go to the USBTC, rather than the silly WPA tournament.

 

[Straightpool_99]

I would have preferred everyone go to the USBTC, rather than the silly WPA tournament.

WHAT!? You ARE being sarcastic, right? Why on earth would you have grown men playing on kiddie tables? The only people who should ever play on 7 foot tables are kids and drunks who can't even stand up straight. Professionals playing on 7 footers is a complete joke, but sadly it isn't even funny.

As for Shane not going, can't say I blame him after what happened the last time. Still, the american pool scene becoming all about bar tables is an unmitigated disaster for US pool and a decision you will live to regret in the years to come. Please let the rest of the world have proper pool, if you insist on ruining your own pool scene.

 

[rjb1168]

My money would be on Daz

Congratulations to Carlo's

 

[Keith Jawahir]

WHAT!? You ARE being sarcastic, right? Why on earth would you have grown men playing on kiddie tables? The only people who should ever play on 7 foot tables are kids and drunks who can't even stand up straight. Professionals playing on 7 footers is a complete joke, but sadly it isn't even funny.

As for Shane not going, can't say I blame him after what happened the last time. Still, the american pool scene becoming all about bar tables is an unmitigated disaster for US pool and a decision you will live to regret in the years to come. Please let the rest of the world have proper pool, if you insist on ruining your own pool scene.

Maybe Dave is a drunk who can't stand up straight. Anyways, I find it very fitting that our American champion just won a bar table tournament.