Yeah, Duckie, just shoot it like a basketball.
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Yeah, Duckie, just shoot it like a basketball.
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You're right, I've never played a single rack. I just assumed that being able to pocket every single shot with a magical center pocket system would greatly benefit people that do play a game where the ultimate goal is to pocket balls. If i did play, I'd definitely be one of those cue and tip players. I hear bar cues are all the rage now. How do you think I'd do? Maybe add one of them there fancy buffalo tips, too.
Already did, and yet, you still missed it because you were trying so hard to be condescending yourself. You ask for no humiliation or condescending words, yet that is all your post was. You give, expect to get it back. I answered politely, yet you come across as you did, and as as expected, still say it wasn't answered. You guys are getting pretty sad in your knocking of a great system.
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You do realize that there can be significant progress in the apa system by merely making more shots, right? I'm not asking a 3 to become a "15", though the claims make a 3 becoming a 7 look downright easy.
That's the first step, though. To admit that many system buyers are lazy and then you can put it together with the "omg it's like jesus" marketing methods.
And, the answer was where?
Sorry for the additional post, but I thought of something I should have added, and I didn't want it to be missed because I only edited into the previous post.
If you are saying that your answer was "That is the subjective part of CTE", I saw that, and acknowledged it.
Nevertheless, I still didn't see, in the original or in your response, the steps I need to take to arrive at a different 'visual'.
If you are saying that your answer was "That is the subjective part of CTE", I saw that, and acknowledged it.
Nevertheless, I still didn't see, in the original or in your response, the steps I need to take to arrive at a different 'visual'.
Maybe you should read the whole post, instead of just looking for something to nitpick, and then stop reading when you think you found it.
This time, try reading what I posted immediately after what you quoted above. :wink:
If you're specifically talking about the 5 shot example in Stan's video, it's been explained many times. Where? Well for starters, in the video, but also on these here forums.
It reminds me of when I took AP Bio in high school. It certainly wasn't my strongest subject, but when a topic came along that I didn't understand (this happened often), I would do one of two things.
1. Study my ass off and apply myself.
2. Accept that it was over my head and move on.
Do you know what I wouldn't do? I wouldn't go running around telling everyone my teacher didn't know how to teach properly.
You have to be kidding! You and others constantly derail any aiming thread by throwing CTE into it and then mocking it for it's supposed statements. (over half of which you guys made up). But, when someone calls you out on YOUR statements, you find it creepy?
Sounds a lot like "sniff, sniff, mommy, he called me a name and hurt my feelings, and all I did was call him a name first".
If you can't take it, stop dishing it out in spades. If you don't like the system, then simply don't use it.
I had gone from a 6 in 9 back down to a 5 and then back up to a 6 and was stuck. I was a 6 in 8 ball for over 5 years. I was considering quitting the game until I met Stevie and he showed me CTE. My Dad had never mentioned it to me at that point. I honestly believed I couldn't get any better than I was and was so frustrated that I didn't see the point anymore because when I do something I want to do it 100% and be one of the best.
I beg to differ. I was a very good ball maker prior to learning CTE but I was never able to control the cue ball because I was so focused on the aim that I could never figure out how to properly apply spin and trust my stroke. CTE has allowed me to do that and it has taken my game to a much higher level. Before CTE Id be lucky to get 2 games on the ghost with a magic rack on a valley bar box on a race to 7 and that was back in September. Now I'm consistently beating the ghost at about a 7-4 win average.
I read what followed the statement that I acknowledged:
But, as you said yourself, this isn't different from any other method of aiming, so I didn't recognize it as something uniquely CTE. So you are saying that I stand on the approximate line of aim to make the shot, by my own estimation?
Well, that's not what Stan says in the video we're talking about. He clearly states:
He sets up "Center-to-Center according to his "strongest visual alignment".
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My fiancé who had never played pool prior to last summer recently asked me if I would teach her CTE. She is a 2 in 8 and 9 ball in APA and has developed some pretty solid shot making skills with no instruction on aiming other than me lining her up here and there. Her stroke is probably the best natural stroke I have ever seen for a new player. I'm going to begin teaching her CTE this week and I will be documenting her progress to put this argument to rest.
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Your situation sounds like that of a friend of mine. I've said before, though not in a while, that there was something in the psr that i found useful, but the aiming itself sounded like something else to me. A little further to go in 9 and then you'll find yourself in a whole new world, one that almost feels as if the ratings start over.
Thank you for your responses.
Edit: i hope your fiance does well. Always amazed at how well some people can swing a cue, while others with more experience still look like they're poking at something that might poke back.
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No problem. I know what you mean about the rankings starting over once you get to a certain level. I saw it first hand this weekend when I played in the Midwest Bar Table Classic at Brickyard this weekend and although I went 2 and out I had a strong showing and both players(Jeremy Seaman and Jim Knifley) I lost to finished in the money. They were knocked out by Justin Bergeman and John Hennessee. I realized I don't have as far to go as I have in the last year to get to being competitive with those guys but I still have a long way to go to get there.
1. You have 5 shots set up.
2. In each situation, each shot, you will not be standing in the exact same relationship to the cb/ob. But, you will instead be shifting over a little as each angle gets steeper.
3. Each time you move over, you are now looking at a different edge on the cb/ob. It is not the same spot you saw before you moved.
4. From the rough line up, you can now be in the proper position to see the correct visuals for the shot at hand.
5. These rough visuals are now looking at a different part of the ob/cb than you were the previous shot angle.
6. I don't have the exact transcript of Stans statement on the video, so I can not fully reply to exactly what he said. I will say though, that he does shift his body over until he is in the correct place to properly see the correct visuals for the shot. (which is what I already described). He shifts over to get the proper perspective of the shot. Meaning, what does he want to do with the shot? Cut it, bank it, ect. He aligns to the proper perspective. Then, the CTE part comes into play. Meaning, the visuals and pivot or sweep.
7. Again, your initial lineup is a a rough line up. Same as in any other method of aiming. Once in your initial lineup, CTE allows one to fine tune that alignment to the actual shot line.
8. Also, by aligning center to center according to the strongest visual alignment, you are making sure you are seeing a straight line as a straight line. You are getting your head into the correct position to see a straight line as straight. Then he shifts over to the proper perspective for the shot.
Yeah, he sets up center to center, big whoop. He, or anyone familiar with the system, could set up center to edge, or center to a spot on the wall. As long as you eventually get to the perception that allows you to properly see the visuals, it really doesn't matter. In fact, once one is familiar with the system, it's as simple as stepping up, seeing the visuals, and sweeping into center cue ball.
The purpose of the initial center to center alignment in the video was for the sake of simplicity.
Neil, you're just flat out full of shit here. You show me one time where I came into an aiming thread and started throwing CTE into it, or ever mocked the system. Why would I mock something I was set to pay Stevie Moore twice his standard rate to have him stop by my house and give me a private lesson? The name's Danny Fera, contact him here or on FB and see if it isn't true. I'm positive he will remember me. Only now, because of your repeated rotten attempts to throw me under a bus I don't belong under, he probably won't want to do it, so thanks for that.
I came into this thread (for the record, a thread on "Feel" that was immediately turned into a CTE thread) with many posts that had nothing to do with aiming at all, just some observations about beliefs systems and the way many people address problem solving. I was attacked by both you and Dave Segal simply because you chose to take those comments personally, and to interpret my thoughts on these matters as anti-CTE digs.
Dave was relentless, trying to force me into making statements that he was obviously getting ready to knock down in his typical sophomoric, mocking way. I refused, and he went ahead and mocked me anyway, and he just would not let it go like the child he is. The only statement I made that could be construed as being even mildly anti-CTE was that it had inherent geometric gaps. Which is obvious just by looking at the diagrams, and even Stan has to admit that after he had a very bright mathematician tell him so (while also claimed that it worked anyway).
You are as creepy as they get, Neil. I can't imaging how much time it took for you to replace the content of thousands of individual posts with .......... , as if they were so important that you would be punishing this place by removing them. Talk about your full-blown case of narcissism. But what do you do now, Neil, you stalk CJ Wiley like a rabid panther, ready to call him out at every opportunity because you think he's a narcissist. Well, maybe he is, but he's a narcissist who once played at the highest level imaginable, while you're just some broke down, bitter old man who never was anything.
Yes, eventually, you will not be standing in the exact same relationship to the cb/ob, but you start Center-to-Center, as Stan says, and then 'rotate'
Well, again, as I read his words, you 'rotate' from the same setup to get to this new 'spot'.
Again, I don't see that wording in his instructions.
Stan says you 'rotate' to that different part of the ob/cb.
Here is a link to the exact transcript: Stan's video.
Again, according to Stan, your initial lineup is Center-to-Center, according to your "strongest visual alignment".
Well, that is the question. 'Then he shifts over'... How do I do that, when the same CTE/ETA lines are unchanging from the Center-to-Center starting point?
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