Fear of Feel

Hi Patrick,

I tend to agree with you here, but then there is a conundrum.

How do we explain the facts & yet have those individuals maintain that placebo effect?

Also, what should Stan be saying about it so that others do not take it for something that it is not?

I know you may not have the answers. I just thought the conundrum should be brought up.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

And Rick casts out the bait.
 
Yeah,

I see your point & that way they would know what they're getting. Which was my point all along.

But then... the curtain is removed so to speak & it loses it's allure of an 'All Powerful Oz'.

I do not mean to imply anything with that analogy. Many great discoveries were not what they were first thought to be.

But, I then wonder if it can be as effective with the curtain pulled back so to speak.

It may quell some frustration for some but it may inhibit progress for others. Hence, the conundrum.

Anyway...

More power to CTE, & Stan, for what CTE actually is.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

It's actually everything Stan says it is and more.
 
AzBilliards is a wonderful place where we can share and rail against our Aiming Religions all we want but really
Subjectivity of Aiming System, Objectivity of Results of Systems have little effect on the overall Universe and
in a few years none of it will really matter.

We aren't doing so much more here than what competing Pool Rooms do to each other.

We are circulating the allegiance of Players and that's about it.

When Pool is suffering from participation, what should really matter is Participation but try and get
New People into Pool and then you will find out you really have a problem.

Just as it is with Aiming, such as it is with Recruitment and the modality used to do it.

The only thing really producing any New Players is the Pool League System and unless we are
producing some New Players all we are really doing here is being purists and doing very little to help the game.

Hi Robin,

How about the new guy or gay that buys something & then does not get what was presented & then quits the game because of a perception that they form that they've been 'hustled'?

I'm not making any definitive statement about anything.

I'm just trying to show that the game can have a rep that must be overcome & misrepresentations will not aid in that.

I hope you can see & understand my points.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

PS I ordered your book.
 
Our puny "logic and reason" hasn't dented their armor so far.

Those who agree with what we're saying can still use CTE consciously as a good pre-alignment, visualization and focusing system to aid in using the subconscious effectively. I don't think the "scientific" version of reality hurts CTE.

pj
chgo

Yea but then again you've never actually learned CTE so this is just your opinion.
 
Hi Robin,

How about the new guy or gay that buys something & then does not get what was presented & then quits the game because of a perception that they form that they've been 'hustled'?

I'm not making any definitive statement about anything.

I'm just trying to show that the game can have a rep that must be overcome & misrepresentations will not aid in that.

I hope you can see & understand my points.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

PS I ordered your book.

So is this where u list your credentials so the new guys and girls know exactly who they are supposedly taking advice from?
 
And Rick casts out the bait.

I asked Patrick a question & he gave an answer.

I'm not baiting anyone, but you certainly seem to be making posts of nothing but a trolling nature.

It seems that there is much that you just don't get.

Trying to actually & truly communicate with you has shown to be futile.

Have a good day, Cookie.
 
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I asked Patrick a question & he gave an answer.

I'm not baiting anyone, but you certainly seem to be making posts of nothing but a trolling nature.

It seems that there is much that you just don't get.

Trying to actually & truly communicate with you has shown to be futile.

Have a good day Cookie.

Yep because you don't know what you don't know.
 
It's actually everything Stan says it is and more.

Originally Posted by stan shuffett View Post
Since you keep saying I say CTE is totally objective.
Please clarify that within the entire context of CTE PRO ONE.
First please show a quote of where I say CTE PRO ONE is "totally objective".

Stan Shuffett

Then it was almost immediately deleted by Stan.
 
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I think it's best just to say what it is. I think if people understood the system and heard the results of others then they would actually have more trust in it. And faith and persistence is what is needed to make it work imo.

For you Cookie, in case you missed it.
 
I understand your point and its well made point

Hi Robin,

How about the new guy or gay that buys something & then does not get what was presented & then quits the game because of a perception that they form that they've been 'hustled'?

I'm not making any definitive statement about anything.

I'm just trying to show that the game can have a rep that must be overcome & misrepresentations will not aid in that.

I hope you can see & understand my points.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

PS I ordered your book.

Rick,
I understand your point completely and that isnt something Ive engaged in and if that was done it is surely a problem and one I thankfully dont have to contend with.

I found some gaps in traditional Ghost Ball practice I didnt like because its subjective in an of itself as I have witnessed a lot of people come in and start playing only to decide there was no help for them and quit pool altogether.

I think the thing here is the traditional ways of doing things and Hit a Million Balls arent making new players and people are looking for ways that will. Ease of operation is one thing, purity is another thing, acceptance that you mode of operation might not be perfect on either side is another thing and keeping in check with purity of game principles is apparently important to the degree when spin becomes an issue to deal with and that does not mean I am saying you cant play spin with other methods Im not. The last thing I want to do is aggravate and already sore boil into a festering wound, one would think we might have had enough of that. If I didnt answer all of your question I will do so.
 
Website Information

So is this where u list your credentials so the new guys and girls know exactly who they are supposedly taking advice from?

If you want to know more about me, my book, what I am trying to do etc. there is a lot of information on my website. That is enough information to base a decision on if not and you have question you can just ask me or call me, you can even come play me if you want or I do give lessons. I am not certified but I can teach aiming, aiming with English, banking and fundamentals. I don't twist peoples arm into lessons if they don't think they need it then they don't first you have to be at a place in which listening is something you think is of value.
 
Originally Posted by stan shuffett View Post
Since you keep saying I say CTE is totally objective.
Please clarify that within the entire context of CTE PRO ONE.
First please show a quote of where I say CTE PRO ONE is "totally objective".

Stan Shuffett

Then it was almost immediately deleted by Stan.

Oh, you're on this thing like an owl on a mouse, aren't you? Only someone who is completely obsessed with creating trouble would pick up on stuff like that, and copy and re-post it for all to see.

I'm reporting you to the mods once again. You will never learn your lesson and I think this place would be better off without you. It's quite clear to most of us that you have no good intentions here. It's the mods' decision to remove you or not, but my decision to report you.

And don't send me another one of your ridiculous PMs. I am not your friend here, nor will I ever be. The only reason I ever responded to you in the first place was in the hope that you'd take my advice and see the light. Fat chance.:mad:
 
Rick,
I understand your point completely and that isnt something Ive engaged in and if that was done it is surely a problem and one I thankfully dont have to contend with.

I found some gaps in traditional Ghost Ball practice I didnt like because its subjective in an of itself as I have witnessed a lot of people come in and start playing only to decide there was no help for them and quit pool altogether.

I think the thing here is the traditional ways of doing things and Hit a Million Balls arent making new players and people are looking for ways that will. Ease of operation is one thing, purity is another thing, acceptance that you mode of operation might not be perfect on either side is another thing and keeping in check with purity of game principles is apparently important to the degree when spin becomes an issue to deal with and that does not mean I am saying you cant play spin with other methods Im not. The last thing I want to do is aggravate and already sore boil into a festering wound, one would think we might have had enough of that. If I didnt answer all of your question I will do so.

Robin,

I was not inferring that any misrepresentation has occurred intentionally.

Earlier, I made a comment that many great discoveries were found to not be what they were first thought to be.

True communication is not always an easy goal & it is often complicated when one only has a text format.

It's also made more difficult when there are those that are seemingly to be constantly trying to inhibit that true communication by the twisting of words so as to create distortions &/or confusion,

I hope you can see & understand what I was trying to communicate.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
No Offense Taken

Robin,

I was not inferring that any misrepresentation has occurred intentionally.

Earlier, I made a comment that many great discoveries were found to not be what they were first thought to be.

True communication is not always an easy goal & it is often complicated when one only has a text format.

It's also made more difficult when there are those that are seemingly to be constantly trying to inhibit that true communication by the twisting of words so as to create distortions &/or confusion,

I hope you can see & understand what I was trying to communicate.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

No Offense taken Rick, I hope I answered your questions.
 
Originally Posted by stan shuffett View Post
Since you keep saying I say CTE is totally objective.
Please clarify that within the entire context of CTE PRO ONE.
First please show a quote of where I say CTE PRO ONE is "totally objective".

Stan Shuffett

Then it was almost immediately deleted by Stan.

Have you shown the quote?
 
Oh, you're on this thing like an owl on a mouse, aren't you? Only someone who is completely obsessed with creating trouble would pick up on stuff like that, and copy and re-post it for all to see.

I'm reporting you to the mods once again. You will never learn your lesson and I think this place would be better off without you. It's quite clear to most of us that you have no good intentions here. It's the mods' decision to remove you or not, but my decision to report you.

And don't send me another one of your ridiculous PMs. I am not your friend here, nor will I ever be. The only reason I ever responded to you in the first place was in the hope that you'd take my advice and see the light. Fat chance.:mad:

If you'll look, you might note that I only responded to being trolled.

But... the statements were made & confirmed. I did not do anything with them until Cookie made his statements.

I'm truly sorry to hear your decision as I think we have similar opinions on many other topics.

All the Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
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