Did you really lose by bad luck?

JoeyA said:
This thread made me laugh. I too resent others from whining about " bad luck" and "bad rolls".

In a recent bar table tournament, at 4:30 am I found myself still on the winner's side, in a race to 7, playing 9 ball. My opponent and I traded games for a most of the set but he missed a ball during one of his runs and left me hooked. I had to jump the impeding object ball and cut the intended object ball and did just that, only to scratch two rails in the corner. The next game my opponent missed and again left me hooked and all I had was a JUMP/BANK on the 7 ball. I belly up to the table like a man and fire at the jump bank. I make the 7 ball and the cue ball continues going floating straight and falls into the bottom corner pocket. I lose 7-5. I guess I need to work on controlling my cue ball on jump shots. :D:D:D

JoeyA
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thats exactly what you should do, i recently learned how to jump/masse a shot, helped me win a match. spend an hour on jump shots, youll be surprised at what you can learn:thumbup:
 
I agree 100% luck exists in pool as it does in every aspect of life. What I don't believe though is that luck is to blame for our losses, it's our mistakes we need to blame. And to me personally, when someone says they don't play 9 ball because of the luck factor it sounds like they're saying they only lose because of bad rolls and not their mistakes.
 
Nothing wrong with acknowledging one got lucky or unlucky. Keep playing and it all balances out. I'm lucky, i know this. Ok, maybe it doesn't balance out.
 
pwd72s said:
I lose because I suck at pool.
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You're lucky! LOL

I agree that luck plays a role in pool; sometimes in your favor, sometimes not. And there are times that the rolls don't go your way and helps you lose a close set. But the trick is to honestly evaluate what happened during that game or set that you could have controlled better and not jump to conclusion that you simply lost because your opponent was lucky.

I have won plenty of sets where I did not play better than my opponent but got the majority of the rolls (Breaks end up in my favor, I miss and leave unintentional safeties/hooks, kick at balls and end up safe not by design, or slop in balls that were hit poorly), but I have lost when things are reversed. Just shake hands and do it again, sh!t happens for both.

Dave
 
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I don't care how good someone is, there will always be luck in the game.

Some good luck, some bad luck and the worst is------no luck.:eek:
 
A comforting way to approach things is that everyone gets the same amount of good luck and bad luck over the course of a career. Making more of our opportunities than our opponents is the only thing that's relevant to winning/losing. Gotta tune-in to everything long-term, or we're liable to go unproductively insane in a string of unlucky moments.
 
poolguy4u said:
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I don't care how good someone is, there will always be luck in the game.
Some good luck, some bad luck and the worst is------no luck.:eek:
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Come on, poolguy4u, we're all lucky. Lucky, by golly, just to be here.
No only as members of the best darn pool forum on the planet, but, holy smokes, just because this is the best planet to be on. What if we were all from Uranus, for heaven's sake. I know.
Every morning, when I wake up, I say this little prayer to start the day. "Lord, please make sure the power didn't go off last night. I wouldn't want to miss talking to any of my friends on AZB."
And you know what, poolguy4u? My power hasn't been off since the ice storm of '08.
The color of my sky today is paisley. :smile:
 
poQet trainer said:
thats exactly what you should do, i recently learned how to jump/masse a shot, helped me win a match. spend an hour on jump shots, youll be surprised at what you can learn:thumbup:
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Ok, now what do I do about reducing the number of times my opponent accidentally snookers me?:grin-square:

JoeyA
 
I need the 3.

JoeyA said:
This thread made me laugh. I too resent others from whining about " bad luck" and "bad rolls".

In a recent bar table tournament, at 4:30 am I found myself still on the winner's side, in a race to 7, playing 9 ball. My opponent and I traded games for a most of the set but he missed a ball during one of his runs and left me hooked. I had to jump the impeding object ball and cut the intended object ball and did just that, only to scratch two rails in the corner. The next game my opponent missed and again left me hooked and all I had was a JUMP/BANK on the 7 ball. I belly up to the table like a man and fire at the jump bank. I make the 7 ball and the cue ball continues going floating straight and falls into the bottom corner pocket. I lose 7-5. I guess I need to work on controlling my cue ball on jump shots. :D:D:D

JoeyA
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Well myth buster.....I need the 3...lol
 
future757 said:
My biggest pet peeve in pool is the number of excuses about losing because of bad luck. Unless you played a perfect set with 0 mistakes (impossible) and your opponent slopped in the 9 hill hill you really have no reason to complain about bad luck. In all honesty you made mistakes earlier in the set that cost you the match, not your opponents lucky rolls. I try to simply focus on what I could have done better, anything else is counterproductive IMO.
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The perfect set but losing on a fluke is an example of pure luck, but it is not the only degree of luck that exists and can make you lose.
You have a logic error.
 
Every time I lose it's due to luck.

They're lucky they're playing me and not someone better.

JC
 
thubosky said:
I lost to a guy at the expo this year in the final set. I was up 2-0. I had him on two fouls and almost locked up on a ball. He kicks at the ball going two or three rails blasting the cue ball, it hits the 2 ball and then the cue caroms off it and knocks the 9 ball in miraculously. Then, he breaks and makes the 9 ball. Then, I broke and didn't make anything and left an easy 1 and 2 and then the 3 - 9 combo was dead in the corner. So in about 5-10 minutes I went from winning 2-0 to losing 3-2. I blamed bad luck for the loss because he eventually beat me then. A good shooter watching me play who sat by my buddy said to him that I never should have lost to the guy. I was definitely stronger, but I feel I just got bad rolls.
Tim
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If he was a weaker player, would you have considered a softer break with the potential for more problems? I don't know anything about the expo, but do you think you would have been more favored in a more grindy game? Would you have been more favored if you fouled and let him break instead? I'm not saying you weren't extremely unlucky, but I'm wondering if you capitalized on all your advantages (depending on the type of player you were playing)
 
I don't think it's lucky rolls that bug me so much as when a player pretends they did it on purpose. I acknowledge when I got lucky. Then I watch other people running out a table, and getting no shot on their last ball and thinking they were unlucky. No, you didn't solve that problem, and 5 balls later, it's still a problem. You didn't think about where the cue ball was going in the slightest, I'm frankly amazed that you made it this far. Lucky rolls are fine, but when you think think you're 7 rail positional route to end up straight shows off how good you are, it doesn't.
 
Lol luck ! No it is the tree hugging hippies and all the soccer moms saying there kids not a looser everyone has to win all the time. No one wants to be put in there place anymore .

Soccer Mom: Sweaty you didn't loose it was just bad luck!

Friends in the room : You got your a$$ Handed to you !

Soccer Mom : That's ok sweaty you will have better luck next time.

Friends in the room : Bring more money next time you just needed one more game to beat me .LOL!
 
There is no such thing as luck.

Either you hit the cue ball correctly, made the object ball and got shape or you didn't.
 
Sure players get lucky but who keeps count. Drives me crazy when I feel my opponent got lucky. However, I all honesty I may have gotten lucky more often than them during the match. Didn't keep score, only remember when they got lucky.
 
A very good player once told me "the better you are, the luckier you get". Of course this was after he got lucky and beat my brains out at nine ball.
 
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