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[dr_dave]

Yes, but it's a pretty meaningless accomplishment, since cloth friction dissipates any overspin almost immediately.

I agree 100%. Overspin is really tough to accomplish, and when you do it is meaningless in a practical sense since it will likely wear off completely before the CB gets to the OB (since the amount of extra topspin beyond natural-roll will be insignificant).

Regards,
Dave

 

[SilverCue]

I agree 100%. Overspin is really tough to accomplish, and when you do it is meaningless in a practical sense since it will likely wear off completely before the CB gets to the OB (since the amount of extra topspin beyond natural-roll will be insignificant).

Regards,
Dave

I agree for most shots.
How about when the cue ball is very close the the object ball and you use an overspin nip shot to get the needed cue ball angle off the object ball.

 

[dr_dave]

I agree 100%. Overspin is really tough to accomplish, and when you do it is meaningless in a practical sense since it will likely wear off completely before the CB gets to the OB (since the amount of extra topspin beyond natural-roll will be insignificant).

I agree for most shots.
How about when the cue ball is very close the the object ball and you use an overspin nip shot to get the needed cue ball angle off the object ball.

It is nearly impossible to get any amount of overspin (beyond the natural-roll amount of topspin) without creating a huge risk of miscuing.

And even if you get any overspin, which is very unlikely, the amount of extra topspin it provides in negligible, even for the type of shot you describe. Now, what is important with that type of shot is that you start the CB off with as close to immediate-roll topspin as possible, so you still need to strike the CB fairly high. For more info and illustrations, see:

"How High or Low Should You Hit the Cue Ball?" (BD, September, 2011)

Regards,
Dave

 

[dr_dave]

It is nearly impossible to get any amount of overspin (beyond the natural-roll amount of topspin) without creating a huge risk of miscuing.

And even if you get any overspin, which is very unlikely, the amount of extra topspin it provides in negligible, even for the type of shot you describe. Now, what is important with that type of shot is that you start the CB off with as close to immediate-roll topspin as possible, so you still need to strike the CB fairly high. For more info and illustrations, see:

"How High or Low Should You Hit the Cue Ball?" (BD, September, 2011)

Regards,
Dave

Anybody who thinks it is easy to get a useful amount of overspin should try Mike Page's wax paper experiment:

NV B.36 - Mike Page's overspin demonstration

Good luck,
Dave

 

[elvicash]

You see over spin on a well drawn cue ball when it does that second and third jerk snapping backwards as it comes off an object ball. I think it is near impossible to do the same with the forward stroke spin as the CB is trapped between the cloth and the tip has to be something to do with offsetting forces as the tip is above the equator and up down pressure is down into the cloth, the opposite with draw as the up down is below the equator and the up down pressure is up off the cloth. I am not a true statics/dynamics theoretician but I see over spin happen on the table in multiple places but almost never coming off the tip.

To me a really hard stroke is to jack up when CB is on the rail and draw back that stroke is putting a lot of the energy into the cloth/slate and hard to get that cue ball spinning backwards.


On the SLoMo camera fund count me in for a $100 if it does get going. The man is tireless and pool positive. We all consume the product most want it for free but some people have to spend to create the video, to promote the sport, Some people buy equipment travel to venues buy hotel rooms and make it happen and then share it with others. Some sell it on DVD or by the stream. SLoMo has sold some video over the years from what I understand but made very little from pool. Pro quality work from a man with the eye and the desire to promote our game. For sure count me in if and when it happens.