Are heavy cues the least desirable?
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My current cue is heavy and long and it is the best cue I have ever played with.
60" + balance right extension
19.5 + balance right extension
60" + balance right extension
19.5 + balance right extension
dom_poppa
Banned
I recommended a lot of cues on here but I get the same response, "Those specs are horrible."
Also, it is up to cuemakers to make specs that are playable in today's market and climate.
I think 19.5 is as far as I go, shot with one to other night and it was pretty good. I like to float around the 18 mark as I find it easier to give more juice than hold back the juice.
dom_poppa
Banned
19.5 is as far as I go, it is still on the heavy side, but manageable.
Remember the heavy break cues...now people are going for lighter break cues for speed.
I have a converted ebony Titlist that is like 23 ounces (shaft is 5oz). Excellent player. Lots of guys have tried and said "wow this plays great" then say "ugh too heavy" after I tell them the weight.
Preconceptions are fun.
Doug the horse
Registered
If anyone has a Southwest they just don't like because it's too heavy, I know someone who will take it off their hands. ME!
I'm just guessing here, but the cue market seems to be down in general. So I'm not sure the weight of the classic cues matters nearly as much since alot of people buy them for other reasons than weight anyway. So perhaps what you're seeing is more the market as a whole being down instead of the market being down specifically for heavier older cues.
Please post a picture (not a stock photo) of the cue you play with.
i have a hard time believing you even play pool.
Money players love heavy Cues
Champeens like them light. The money players are the ones holding the cash at the end of the night.
Go figure,
Nick
Champeens like them light. The money players are the ones holding the cash at the end of the night.
Go figure,
Nick
Ron Swanson
Banned
Shane and Efren in the last TAR match said they didnt know the weight
of their cues. Shanes was almost 20oz ( without the extension ) and
Efrens was a little over 20oz.
of their cues. Shanes was almost 20oz ( without the extension ) and
Efrens was a little over 20oz.
My Runde Schon weighs 20.5 ounces (16.3 ounce cue butt).
The butt weight for all my other cues is 14.5 ounces......the same for each and every cue. 3 of my ivory joint cues weigh 18.25 ounces and the 4th weighs 18.8 ounces because the shafts weight 4.2 ounces and the cue butt weighs 14.6 ounces. Mr. Prewitt is making me two new shafts that are thinner and will render my Prewitt the same weight as all my other pool cues.
I know that a good player will adjust to the cue and re-position his grip to achieve the feel and balance of a lighter weight cue but that requires continually changing your grip based upon the shot and bridge required......I played with my Runde Schon and it's literally an anchor.........I will never play with this cue again.......it weighs a ton......but 7 years ago it was my only cue plus a Palmer that weighs just as much.......little did I know.
Then I made the change to an ivory joint cue and experimented with cue-makers and cue weights.....bought and sold 3 ivory joint cues along the way until I came across what was the ideal combination......a lighter weight cue gives me a lot more feedback on my pool stroke........it lets me move the cue ball more precisely.....especially in 14:1 competition........I could do the same thing with my Runde Schon but my position play wasn't nearly as good......shots pocketed was about the same but cue ball control improved tremendously with a lighter cue and the feedback with a flat ivory joint and ivory ferrules is tremendous.........the acoustical sound of the hit is unmatched and the sensation of the stroke is so much more discernible to one's grip and fingers.
It always comes down to what the individual is accustomed to playing with and making a change can be hard for some players........the effort to change is justified by the results, in my opinion. As has been said before and will be mentioned again and again.......it all comes down to what works best for you.......Personally speaking, heavy cues are relics and are more akin to memorabilia from days long ago than functional use as one of my playing cues.
Matt B.
The butt weight for all my other cues is 14.5 ounces......the same for each and every cue. 3 of my ivory joint cues weigh 18.25 ounces and the 4th weighs 18.8 ounces because the shafts weight 4.2 ounces and the cue butt weighs 14.6 ounces. Mr. Prewitt is making me two new shafts that are thinner and will render my Prewitt the same weight as all my other pool cues.
I know that a good player will adjust to the cue and re-position his grip to achieve the feel and balance of a lighter weight cue but that requires continually changing your grip based upon the shot and bridge required......I played with my Runde Schon and it's literally an anchor.........I will never play with this cue again.......it weighs a ton......but 7 years ago it was my only cue plus a Palmer that weighs just as much.......little did I know.
Then I made the change to an ivory joint cue and experimented with cue-makers and cue weights.....bought and sold 3 ivory joint cues along the way until I came across what was the ideal combination......a lighter weight cue gives me a lot more feedback on my pool stroke........it lets me move the cue ball more precisely.....especially in 14:1 competition........I could do the same thing with my Runde Schon but my position play wasn't nearly as good......shots pocketed was about the same but cue ball control improved tremendously with a lighter cue and the feedback with a flat ivory joint and ivory ferrules is tremendous.........the acoustical sound of the hit is unmatched and the sensation of the stroke is so much more discernible to one's grip and fingers.
It always comes down to what the individual is accustomed to playing with and making a change can be hard for some players........the effort to change is justified by the results, in my opinion. As has been said before and will be mentioned again and again.......it all comes down to what works best for you.......Personally speaking, heavy cues are relics and are more akin to memorabilia from days long ago than functional use as one of my playing cues.
Matt B.
I like weights in that general range as well. When I spec a new cue it is usually 20.5 - 21 oz.
A couple of years ago it was recommended I use a 18.5 - 19 oz cue and thus attempted to switch. I tried to adjust but couldn't make the transition and eventually had the cuemaker increase the weight. It made a big difference.
dom_poppa
Banned
I have to agree with the because every vintage cue I've held seems to feel like a log. I am sure anyone can play with any cue with enough table time but I feel players would improve drastically if they somehow switch to a lighter cue. It allows for more control and finesse play. People can tell the difference and you have feedback in what you are doing.
I like to compare cues to race cars and if a cue maker can add all the fancy stuff while keeping weight down is a beautiful thing.
I'm in good company.
I always considered 18.5 to 20 oz to be the high and low ends of standard weights so I wouldn't think of a 20 oz cue as a heavy cue.
Anyway, I like mine at just about 19.25. Much heavier and I don't like the feel of the transition from backstroke to forward stroke as much.
Anyway, I like mine at just about 19.25. Much heavier and I don't like the feel of the transition from backstroke to forward stroke as much.