Ron Swanson
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Iirc melling won 40k for winning the china open, and a similar amount for being runner up in the first C8B championship.
What are the 1 pocket and 14.1 purses again?
Chris Mellings thoughts on SVB
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Iirc melling won 40k for winning the china open, and a similar amount for being runner up in the first C8B championship.
What are the 1 pocket and 14.1 purses again?
Iirc melling won 40k for winning the china open, and a similar amount for being runner up in the first C8B championship.
What are the 1 pocket and 14.1 purses again?
When was that? 4 years ago? He was a one hit wonder. Other than the Mosconi Cup, Chris doesn't scratch for decent money all the often. And he ain't never been runner up in Chinese 8.
Darren Appleton doesn't turn his nose up at 14.1. He just wants to pile up titles. I thought Chris's motivation was the same?
As for One Pocket, he could make 6 figures a year in action games. Or is Chris only a tournament player, scared of long races? Hell, there's probably 100 players who'd give him 9-7.
No excuses. Melling is simply a middling tourney player. Nothing more.
He is a good player but nothing more.
Evgenij Stelev was giving him a 7 and he didn't want to play,actually he didn't want even to think about it.
At the same time Sandor wanted to play him 10ball,a set to 9 in 9ball and was giving him 3 ahead and he refused to play him too with this spot.
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No. I've posted break stats for dozens of tournaments and challenge matches over the past few years. Obviously, the percentage of games the breaker wins varies quite a bit from event to event for a host of reasons. But if we just ignore all the details for a moment, I can make the following generalization. For a healthy majority of the events, the breaker won 50-59% of the games. The categories for breaker winning fewer than 50% of the games and breaker winning 60% or more of the games would each be about 1/3 to 1/4 as frequent as the 50-59% category.
Here's something I posted earlier this year when someone asked about the significance of the break.
The percentage of games won by the breaker in pro events is generally in the range of 45% - 65%. It can get much higher than that for the top players near the end of an event when they are dialed in on the break and running out a lot. It can also be influenced by matches involving a strong player and a weak player. A very lopsided match in a winner-breaks format obviously leads to a very high "breaker-won-game" percentage.
Racking templates can also affect this number. If, for example in 9-Ball, the wing ball goes in on the break regularly, the stay-at-table percentage after the break is so high that the breaker has many more opportunities for a B&R game, and that raises the overall winning percentage for the breaker.
Despite the fact that the stats sometimes seem to indicate that it is no great advantage to be breaking, I doubt that many top players would want to give the break to an opponent coming down the stretch in a big event.
Via pm, from Chris:
To be honest pal I was trying to get into his head like a boxer does in a fight! Try to gain any legal advantage you can. I have never ever knocked Shane as a great player that he is and i never would. I know I'm not in his league or quite a few others. Their was no disrespect aimed toward Shane at all but some of the people on the forums seem to get personal,that's their choice. Everyone can say what they want American pool was never my game but I did ok out of it in the times I played. I'm not one to talk about myself I let the commentators do that. If I upset anyone it wasn't meant in any disrespect. I'm sorry if I did upset Shane's fans.
To be honest pal I was trying to get into his head like a boxer does in a fight! Try to gain any legal advantage you can. I have never ever knocked Shane as a great player that he is and i never would. I know I'm not in his league or quite a few others. Their was no disrespect aimed toward Shane at all but some of the people on the forums seem to get personal,that's their choice. Everyone can say what they want American pool was never my game but I did ok out of it in the times I played. I'm not one to talk about myself I let the commentators do that. If I upset anyone it wasn't meant in any disrespect. I'm sorry if I did upset Shane's fans.
I think we all know that. We were simply trolling each other back and forth, like fans of NBA players do or some such.
Classy move by Chris :thumbup:
Ron Swanson
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Oh no?
https://youtu.be/Ez5MF1wnS34
Would you like me to link a few of SVBs C8B matches? Fancy that, a game where a big break is not required which your boy cannot play.
Who der funk?
Ron Swanson
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Ask him why he thinks the british are the best cueists in the world, would ya?
Ta.
Oh no?
https://youtu.be/Ez5MF1wnS34
Would you like me to link a few of SVBs C8B matches? Fancy that, a game where a big break is not required which your boy cannot play.
Who der funk?
Yes, "oh no."
You said "championship," implying World Championship or a proper tourney. That was the 8 ball Masters, which is an invitational event with a small field, like the World Pool Masters. Earl finished 17th in one of them. Is he the 17th best Chinese 8 ball player in the world now?
And you're being stupid again with the Shane quote. He was the runner up in the 14.1 World Championship (requires no big break) and is probably one of the top 20 one pocket players right now.
He just isn't good at gimmick games on heated tables, I suppose. But at least he gave it a go, unlike Melling who stays away from the "soulful" and intellectual American pool games.
Fun fact: I think players broke and ran out half the time (AtLarge will correct me if I'm wrong) in a Chinese 8 tourney. Real hard game there.
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Oh, and the fact this behemoth can't outbreak Shane speaks volumes of his "talent."
He's fat and probably quite strong, but has no accurate power stroke, like all English players.
Big LOL on the choice wording .....
Thanks for the replay.
As for the bolded, it could wind up that perception doesn't equal reality if the stats do wind up quantifying that the breaker is a slight underdog. But yeah, in a late game tournament scenario, having the break is probably is a big advantage.
In 9 ball, 9 on the break counts, no arguments there that the breaker is +EV over the long term.
I'd be interested to see how often the breaker wins in 10 ball or 9 ball where the 9 doesn't count.
Phillipines best in world
Chinese and British 2nd an third
Rest of Asia and rest of Europe 4th 5th
Then usa
Then APA 7s
Chinese and British 2nd an third
Rest of Asia and rest of Europe 4th 5th
Then usa
Then APA 7s
Ron Swanson
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Good players broke and ran out half the time, mate. Good players.
I'm sure AtLarge will provide SVBs BnR stats if you ask him nicely.
Ron Swanson
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Wash your mouth out son. The only one you got right there was the US. Chinese better cueists than the british? WTF?
I will have to disagree with you on this one Jay. If it was a plate of chips at stake Shane wouldn't stand a chance.
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Ron Swanson
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Lol.
Certain other people around here could learn a thing or two about how to take the piss out of each other's foibles in a classy way.
As ever, brits lead the way.
LOL, basically he was calling Shane a "rack mechanic".
When they played after the interviews, Shane had a much better break. So, I'm not sure what Chris Melling can say about being the better player now?
I think most people know SVB is the better player. And yes he may know the rack better as well but to say SVB wins because of the rack is nonsense. Chris is also one hell of a player and may have one of the straightest strokes in pool but hey.... this isn't snooker.... this is America.