If we're going to ban the break shot in pool then the serve in tennis has got to go, no more pitching in baseball, no tee shots in golf, and certainly no more free throws in basketball....
Chris Mellings thoughts on SVB
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If we're going to ban the break shot in pool then the serve in tennis has got to go, no more pitching in baseball, no tee shots in golf, and certainly no more free throws in basketball....
You have made some good posts....but this is definitely not one of them.
If you care to delete your post, I will delete the quote....
...'cause I do have some compassion for my fellow men.
Safeties in snooker are about the cheapest thing around. Push down table and get a guaranteed safe. How imaginative. Rotation safes are demanding and require exacting precision to lock up, or a player like Reyes is going to murder you.
Ban the break. That's like banning the drive in golf. It's not Shane's fault English players are weak ass breakers. Anyhow, Chris could have action at non breaking games like 14.1 and One Pocket, and Shane would destroy him.
I do agree that inferior players have caught up, though. Mainly due to the fast cloths, Magic racks, and low deflection shafts. It's why those weak Snooker strokes have proven effective in pool the past decade. Put an English player on 80's tournament conditions, and they wouldn't be able to draw the ball 5 feet. The IPT was proof of this when Jimmy White played at C speed and Johnny Archer running a 4 pack on O'Sullivan gave him nightmares.
Long term future. Archer killed that future real quick, and Ronnie drug his belly back to Snooker, which he said he was fed up with at the time.
Ron Swanson
Banned
This is gold, just like all the rest. It should be in lights til it sinks in.
Melling has more talent in his little finger than svb does in his entire body. Must be sickening for him to lose to inferior players because the game is so skewed towards a couple of aspects that should be unimportant.
Pool has no soul. That is its inherent problem. Let's reward the greatest players, not those that can break well.
Why hasn't Melling dominated the "most soulful pool game," the game pretty much synonymous with pool, 14.1?
The fat ass has played pool for like 10-15 years now, vowing to himself to be the best all-around cueist in the world, and yet he has stayed away from those events like he does diets. He sticks to "kiddie" games like 9 ball and 8 ball. Talent my ass.
Shane would gladly spot him 50 points on the wire in a 200 point set.
Every pro in Europe and America know that the break shot is the most important shot in all rotation pool. The ones that work the hardest on their break complain the least.
Oh, and the fact this behemoth can't outbreak Shane speaks volumes of his "talent."
He's fat and probably quite strong, but has no accurate power stroke, like all English players.
He's fat and probably quite strong, but has no accurate power stroke, like all English players.
Oh, and the fact this behemoth can't outbreak Shane speaks volumes of his "talent."
He's fat and probably quite strong, but has no accurate power stroke, like all English players.
Just ban Shane from pool then no one will complain about the break shot anymore...
Strange that I have called Melling the 'British Reyes'....he has clever shot selections.
...some of his shots that I appreciated were kicking and getting a snooker in return.
...and you decry this part of the game,
I admire the talent of Melling AND SVB.
Seems to me you want all players to have attended school on a short bus.
.....well, sod that for a lark.
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Ron Swanson
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Also worth mentioning is that the breaker is actually at a statistical disadvantage. A poster compiled the W/L ratio of breakers/non breakers, and the non-breaker won like half a percent more games.
Someone tested the data by examining the Efren vs. Earl Color of Money match, and the stats were just about the same, with the breaker losing more games, even with Earl's vastly superior breaks to Efren's.
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Interesting, isn't it, that SVB plays 14.1 and One-Pocket at a very high level, among the best in the world, and neither game relies on his "big break".
Why doesn't Melling step up and play with him in those disciplines where SVB's break isn't an issue? Hmmmmm
Because he'd get smoked and knows it.
Melling has this idea of himself as the best all around cueist in the world, but avoids the hardest American pool disciplines like he does vegetables.
He sticks to rotation game tournaments, with their high variance. And he isn't even particularly impressive at those.
Ron Swanson
Banned
I thought Melling's motivation wasn't money (though money is probably very important to him given how large his grocery bills must be), but to be the best all around?
Also, it stands to reason, per your logic, that the super talented Melling would win every 14.1 and One Pocket tourney in sight since those games are built around skill, position, and strategy and there's no power break. Meaning he'd make more money at those disciplines than failing in rotation games as he does. Also, one pocket action can go sky high and Melling could easily clean up 6 figures a year in challenge and gambling matches, if he's as good as you say.
Spin this one for me.
Right agreed! Dry breaking is a disadvantage though. I don't think Shane should be blamed for the weak dry breakers.
Not sure is it true or not but what I've heard is that Chris is broke
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Not sure is it true or not but what I've heard is that Chris is broke
Ate himself into poverty, tbh.
Shane won this match 8-5 and won the tournament as well, beating Nick the Greek in the finals. Chris is an excellent player, but his record pales in comparison to Shane's and that's the true indicator of ability, who wins when the chips are on the line.
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